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BTECs at college - Support thread 2

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TeenAndTween · 19/08/2016 11:45

Following on from the 2015 thread to inform and support each other through the ups and downs of BTECs. Mainly aimed at y12/13 level, but BTECs alongside GCSEs more than welcome too. Plus anyone just considering BTECs and wanting information.

What I learned last year:

You have to hit the ground running as the very first piece of work may well count towards your final grade

DD's course has 3 options like this.

Subsidiary Diploma - 9 units (1 year, 9 units (5 units, then 4 more))
Diploma - 12 units total (2 year, 6 units each year)
Extended Diploma 18 units total (2 year, 9 units each year, 5 in first half of year, 4 in second half)

DD is doing the Diploma (2 A level equivalent), but the college ensures that they do all the 4 'compulsory' units in the first year so if someone drops out they can still qualify for the Subsidiary Diploma (1 A level equivalent?).

You pretty much have to pass every single unit in order to pass the whole thing. There are limited opportunities to re-submit, but there are some. The Pass criteria for DD's course are quite straightforward (if you can structure things properly which DD struggles with). The Merit criteria are harder, and the Distinction criteria need a good level of analysis (that DD doesn't have).

Each unit is made up of a number of Pass, Merit and Distinction criteria. To reach each level you have to meet all the criteria at that level. So if on your first assignment for a unit you miss a Merit criteria, you can't get higher than a pass for the unit (as far as I understand).

Each unit gives you a number of Points. For DD mainly it is 70 for a pass, 80 for a Merit and 90 for a Distinction. To Pass the whole thing she would need 12x70 points - 840, equivalent to EE A level grades. To get CC equivalent she needs 920 minimum. To get AA she would need 1000 points.

DD has up to 3 teachers at any time, each teaching a unit. They teach a bit, and then set an assignment. For a week or 2 they don't teach in some lessons and they use the time to get on with the assignment. Then more teaching and second assignment. Around 4 assignments per unit.

What you don't have to do is 'extra' exam practice, question practice etc. So all work is pretty much set. The students don't have to work out extras. (However exactly what is required for some criteria is about as clear as mud, and DD seems to get little/no feedback on assignments to help her improve for future ones. Sometimes there seem to be implicit requirements that DD doesn't catch on about.)

Disclaimer. I don't know if all BTECs are like DD's !

A couple of useful tables for reference:

Table showing UCAS points

A level equivalent UCAS

And finally the Pearson BTEC site from where you can find specs, unit descriptions, and pass/merit/distinction criteria.

(Praying for less of a roller-coaster this year).

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HSMMaCM · 28/03/2017 21:59

We're nearly finished with the dance btec. Apparently I have to do some filming.

TeenAndTween · 29/03/2017 13:18

Draylon Well done to you and your DS for passing the theory test! What did he score? DD will be having a blitz on driving over Easter hopefully, test provisionally booked for 4 weeks today (if car passes the MOT tomorrow).

We've got parents evening next week, recent report was generally good, so hopefully no bad surprises. I feel like we are approaching the home straight now.

HSM Filming the dance sounds a bit stressful. I don't think I'd want to have to do that.

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HSMMaCM · 29/03/2017 13:24

T&T I'd rather not do it Grin. Any volunteers?

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TeenAndTween · 02/04/2017 16:05

Oh Draylon Sad - he just doesn't learn does he? The only person he is fooling is himself really. Have some Wine .

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HSMMaCM · 03/04/2017 08:02

Good news about the work getting done Drayton.

TeenAndTween · 03/04/2017 10:04

Glad he got it done. That must be a relief.

re Hazard perception - we were told you should click at least 3 times for each hazard so if you are 'too fast' first time you will still pick up 3 or 4 points on your second click.

Hope your DS2's GCSE revision goes better than DS1. At least you haven't got A levels and GCSEs to contend with simultaneously!

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HSMMaCM · 04/04/2017 18:31

Draylon I know a 19 year old who is having trouble getting onto any training, because of something to do with funding. I don't know the detailed though.

If dd didn't need a degree for her chosen career, I would be encouraging her to look for some kind of job, or higher level apprenticeship, or something. She's not going to do too badly in her A levels I don't think, but degrees are shockingly expensive.

TeenAndTween · 06/04/2017 11:22

Final parents evening last night. Finally back to the 'good' standard we used to have at secondary. About time too Smile

Also, DD2 y7 report. Some great 'attitude' levels, especially considering how hard she finds school. SmileSmile

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HSMMaCM · 06/04/2017 17:37

That must be a relief T&T

cricketballs · 11/04/2017 11:10

interesting read here about BTECs and higher education

TeenAndTween · 11/04/2017 12:23

Thank you for the link cricket .
I am very clear DD would not be suited to university, but I do feel that the 'sales technique' of BTECs at colleges seems to overplay their usefulness as a university stepping stone.

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HSMMaCM · 11/04/2017 14:51

Dd is doing 1 btec and 2 a levels which don't seem to have been a barrier to uni.

cricketballs · 11/04/2017 18:11

The issue I have with the document I linked to is that given the vocational nature of BTECs then they will naturally lead students to applied type degrees rather than academic therefore given most RG unis are only in the top 20 for academic degrees such as English, maths etc then of course there will be a lot less applying, however the universities that are seen as the middle usually are top of their fields with applied subjects so will naturally attract BTEC students.

From experience those who have a mix of A Levels and BTEC seem to flourish at uni as they have the experience of application/research and exams

TeenAndTween · 26/04/2017 12:36

Not BTEC related, but my (dyspraxic) DD passed her driving test today first time! We are delighted but slightly scared.

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HSMMaCM · 26/04/2017 15:36

Congrats T&T's DD. My dd went out the day she passed and we hardly saw her for the next 5 days, as she celebrated her new found independence. It was a bit scary, but she was happily boasting about where she'd driven to, so we always knew she had arrived safely.

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TeenAndTween · 27/04/2017 20:44

It's OK Draylon DD can't park either! She was also lucky to be given the turn in the road(her best manoeuvre) rather than reversing around a corner (her worst).

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