The most Socially Selective schools in England.

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Here is a list of the most socially selective state schools in England , total no of pupils entitled to free school meals over the last six years. Dept Of Education Characteristics

1. Cranbrook School Kent 5
2. Borlase Grammar Bucks 5
3. Bishop Words Wilts 7
4. Pate's Grammar Gloucs 8
5. Colchester Royal Essex 10
6. Caistor Grammar Lincs 10
7. King Edward Louth Lincs 10
8. Adams Grammar Shrop 11
9. Colchester High Essex 12
10. Kendrick Grammar Berks 12
11. Dr Challinor High Bucks 12

12. Alyesbury Gram Bucks 13 12. Beaconsfield High Bucks 13 12. Newport High Shrop 13 15. Stratford Gram Warks 14 15.Skinners Sch Kent 14 17.Chelmsford High Essex 15 17. Judd Sch Kent 15 17. St Olaves Kent 15 20. Alcester Gram Warks 16 21. Tonbridge Gram Kent 17 22. Kegs Chelms Essex 19 22. Lancaster Girls Lancs 19 24. Skipton High Yorks 20 24. Tunbridge W Gir Kent 20 26 Hockerill Anglo Essex 21 27. Ripon Gram Yorks 22 27. Ermysteds Yorks 22 29. Altrincham Boys Ches 23 30. St Bernards Slough Berks 24

Nick Skelton was Educated at Bablake School in Coventry (Private) Founded in 1344 . Wikipedia.

According to Writer and Ex Cricketer Ed Smith 2009 "Sport makes connections and disconnections with gender, class race and ethnicity"

In this case you can see that some sporting activities. These are Rowing, Equestrianism , Archery or other activities requiring at the very least Culture Capital are discriminating and out of the reach of the majority of pupils.

I'm struggling to imagine how it works in schools TBH Dapple or how it is paid for.

Now I am imagining whole country fair style sports days (on the back of what happy said) and thinking agricultural schools would be no bad thing. Working farms and proper stables.....

Smoke pole - apologies for Nick Skelton - I should have checked.

Mostly, in state schools, it involves children who already ride making themselves into a team and begging a member of staff to accompany them to competitions. This is why we don't usually have a team at our school. The few that have horses aren't interested. We had a team a couple of years ago due to a sixth former taking on the organisation.

Arsenic - I agree, working farms and proper stables would be lovely.

36% of all Great Britain's medals at the Olympics came from Independent schools which account for just 7% of pupils. This is also far worse because I bet a large number of "state educated" medal winners came from schools highlighted in the list or schools like them.

The proportion of medal winners from "bog standard" or socially deprived Comprehensives must be very small despite the fact these types of schools account for 85% of pupils.

"The proportion of medal winners from "bog standard" or socially deprived Comprehensives must be very small despite the fact these types of schools account for 85% of pupils."

Well, yes. Regardless of whether your kids go to an academically selective school, they're more likely to be successful in any sport which doesn't have stacks of money available as a sport to invest in its grass roots (i.e. football) if their parents can afford their equipment, entry fees, petrol money to drive them to competitions, time off work if these competitions are during working hours, hotels if they're a long way away, and so on.

I'm not seeing anything in these statistics which goes beyond "if you're rich, you have more money to spend on luxuries." High level sports training and competition is a luxury.

What's more concerning imo is not the disproportionate number of privately-educated people competing in elite sports, but their over-representation in the medical and legal professions.

My DS is going to a private school but I still think the ratio of private:state educated doctors and lawyers should be a fairer reflection of society at large.

Doctors and lawyers?

It's what my fee paying friends want for their kids.

Know too many lawyers and docs to wish that for my kids though!

Why do people get so hung up on certain professions?!

The most concerning thing of the lot though is ratio of Comprehensive educated people working in " Call Centres" or on Supermarket Checkouts !.

Smokepole - many private schools offer generous bursaries and scholarships to kids who are highly talented at sport.

FSM is mot a very good measure of social elitism.Having few very poor children, is not the same thing as having lots of rich ones.Two completely different things.

I agree very strongly, choclover.

FWIW, my parents live in the catchment of Cranbrook School and I know plenty of people who send their DC there. Few school meals but it is not a ghetto of the über rich by any stretch of the imagination.

few free school meals

"The minute you segregate children into silos of god, gonads or the ability to be tutored for a test
you limit the potential of those whose parents were unable to line up the hoops.
And that is bad for the long term future of the country."

Well said.

I also think having a critical mass of parents demanding things like good music provision in state schools would make a difference. At the moment people whose children are talented or high achieving in music are often encouraged to remove them from state schools. My ds is the highest achieving child in music in his state primary. He's not a prodigy, just grade 4 in two instruments, but even at that level the school can't provide differentiated music lessons. He spends most of his music lessons at school stapling worksheets with the TA. I'm the only parent who has a problem with lack of differentiation in music and I've given up mentioning it. The school doesn't give a shit - they're too busy worrying about SATS.

You don't get many rural kids who are into showing livestock and riding - most pick their camp early - yfc or pony club. V rarely do the two meet.

Root

We took dd out of school for exactly this reason, she couldn't see the point of being there when all she wanted to do was music.
Hopefully she will reach her goal soon, she has a dream and we had to let her go for it.

However, many people don't realise this at all and pardon the language here and it pains me to say that we have Thatcher to thank for music being part of the curriculum at all.
She read out a prepared speech wrong and the word should have been maths, but she said music. It was talking about how improvements needed to be made etc.
Ok seriously gone down hill now but the story is true.

I was trying to compile the "opposite " list, the most social deprived schools in England but realised it does not work in the same way so gave up.

However, just for reference in the last six years Great Barr school in Birmingham had/has 892 pupils entitled to FSM . Quite a contrast in numbers Aston Manor school also in Birmingham has/had 563 pupils or 75.4% of its pupils entitled at any time to FSM.

smokepole
the opposite list will be those schools that are so undesirable that they have hundreds of empty spaces
even though other schools in the area are over subscribed
and that have almost no high achieving pupils

now, where could I think of finding such schools?

Aston Manor School 866 Pupils current FSM 54.0% last 6 years 75.4% .

Sir William Borlase 1030 pupils current FSM 0% last 6 years 0.8%

This demonstrates the huge discrepancy in state schools and life chances of pupils attending them.

Great Barr School 2099 Pupils and a Very Respectable 54% GCSE Pass rate considering its intake. Aston Manor a brilliant 63% give that school an Outstanding Rating...

Talkin

You'd find a few round here, I will have a look at those in our borough.

A random county : but an interesting way of looking at the problem of getting a Secondary School place
www.digitalnorfolk.com/webpages220140902101108/PRINT_AHgraphic_020914_Norfolk%20school%20allocations%20copy.pdf