Figures on teacher assaults

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Listening to the local news today (I don’t usually) stated that a freedom of information request had divulged that 1300 public servants had been attacked at work in 2025 in the region - over 1000 of them teachers !!

This is D&Gslloway -a nice rural area.
I am just disgusted that the Gov thinks this is acceptable.

There was then a discussion about they number of primary teachers teaching in secondary schools in Aberdeen - not great.

My point is why does the SNP Gov get away with allowing this - and how badly is it affecting children’s’ futures

there needs to be serious reconsiderations on so many social fronts.
the ability of parents to punish children without worry of social service involvement.

the rapid expansion of specialty schools to deal with children who display antisocial behavior. the rapid expansion of policing, prison and detention centers so that youth don't model poor behavior.
there's more to it than simply poor parenting.

Permanently excluded for being a danger to others. England.

But it’s so much cheaper just to stick your head in the sand. Which is why the SNP do it.

Wow, your school leaders have lost control. Why are you still working there? Clearly failing school if this is so commonplace. There’s no excuse for letting it get to this stage.

My kids school as soon as furniture is thrown double down and tackle it. Separation is used. They actively manage and nip it in the bud. We have plenty of kids from difficult backgrounds and the school teaches them how to behave. They learn pretty quickly. The parents who don’t like the approach choose to take their kids out themselves. No exclusion needed. By year 6 the kids are all well behaved. We have plenty of Send kids, we are a school with financial challenges but it can be done with good leadership

Oh and it’s a very happy school with a lot of diversity and social inclusion

You should come and give my old school some tips. Staff were beaten, bloodied and chairs were thrown. SLT blamed the teachers. It was a horrendous, unsafe environment that made me ill.

This is in England. They absolutely refused to exclude the children responsible.

They can't use physical abuse anymore for good reason.

One half of my family lived near Ibrox, where the schools were (are?) far worse, and they had far worse living conditions than today, but there were never assaults on teachers.

We found our council was more likely to take sides with parents over teachers. Fed up of being told we weren't meeting their child's needs as an excuse for their child's behaviour. Contact the authorities and we were told we must meet said child's needs.
Then they wonder why there's a recruitment crisis. for headteachers. And this is in supposedly idyllic villages along the Scottish coast, not some inner city estates.

Year 6 - is this England you’re talking about. Different powers from Scotland. You cannot permanently exclude children, and if the violent bully is in care you cannot even do much as change the class they’re in, let alone the school. Cheers Nicola! It was my child - the victim of weekly if not daily assaults - who had to move schools, away from their friends as the ONLY means of giving my child a chance at physical safety in the classroom. Nice one Nicola you complete and utter idiot!

If only. Not always.

Year 6 shows you’re in England. We have a separate education and legal system. Age of criminality for one is very different. Head teachers have no powers to exclude in the same way.

With teaching vacancies in the Central Belt (and elsewhere), where exactly am I able to go? We have very few options as teachers other than to leave the profession.

This is anecdotal so take it or leave it but I think a lot of the extreme behaviour tracks back to years of standards being lowered in schools due to parents questioning / not supporting teachers and rubbish curriculum reforms. Add to that experienced teachers leaving in droves and new teachers who aren’t ready to teach due to wish washy teacher training (where they’re hardly asked to actually teach) and standards are on the floor.
the kids don’t trust the system / teachers - too much change and this causes larger numbers to misbehave and the worst ones to go onto doing more awful stuff.
Teachers need to be retained.
school needs to be well resourced, and enjoyable not stressful.
parents need to support schools and realise that their kid is not an extension of their ego. Kids act like twats - they all do - just let them know it’s not okay and give consequences. seen so many excuse so much and end up being bullied by their own teenager! It’s horrible.
yes I will give your kid a detention for not having a pen / being cheeky etc and no I don’t want to read or respond to your 7 paragraph email about why I should let them off because their cat died / they had a dancing competition bla bla ..
anyway - just some thoughts.

But at least there’s a chance! Morons in power here exalt at having permanently excluded no children in the whole of Scotland all year, despite the fact that had they done so my child would not have had to move schools away from their friends. They wouldn’t have had their learning disrupted. They wouldn’t have faced the trauma of repeated assaults.

How long ago did schools stop suspending and excluding pupils?

About 8 years ago maybe. Have a look at when the PISA results started plummeting to find out when.

Punish in what way?

I annoyed a lot of people with my post that said that teachers should teach and keep discipline. I was shocked by a few responses saying that parents do.not support the school. I wrongly assumed that parents would support the school.as I wrongly assumed that parents want their children to do well in life
I certainly did not intend to insult all teachers who work hard and try to help the pupils.

England - working in a school - it's classed as a good day if I don't come home from work with a bruise.

I get spat at, punched, bit, kicked...

@OldJohn A lot of people, if they don't work in schools, or have a family member who does, have no idea what goes on. Believe me, teachers are desperate to retain control but their hands are tied.

In England I read about pupils being excluded for uniform infringements whereas in Scotland you can kick seven bells out of a teacher and you might be sent home for the rest of the day.

Teachers have tried refusing to teach these pupils because, let's face it, who wants to face their attacker day after day but they're told, "You must teach those pupils assigned to you".

Scottish education is a complete shit show.

I’m not surprised that no one wants to continue to be a teacher or want to go into the profession. It’s a complete shit show. They are so short of maths teachers at my kids school that they have just taken on a primary school teacher. This is to teach S1 and S2 pupils and therefore free up the qualified maths teachers to teach s3-s6. This is because they have had 2 maths vacancies for 2 years. They still have 1 maths vacancy. Higher computing isn’t being taught anymore as they can’t get a teacher.
all because being a teacher means being abused and physically assaulted every day by out of control children.
nicola sturgeon once said, judge us on our education. Yes Nicola I judge you. And I find you completely failing. The whole thing is a shit show and will take decades to sort out

But SNP keep being voted in -they are a law unto themselves - they fail on so many fronts.
We aren’t snp here so are completely ignored and underfunded.

They’re hardly a law unto themselves when they get voted in.

Where are you that your MSPs are ignoring you?

There will be a lot more pupils being violently attacked than the teachers as well. I always think at least the teachers can leave but young children are stuck on the same room as their attackers.

It is far worse today.