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Peter Murrell embezzlement trial

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Sunnnyday · 25/05/2026 10:28

Peter Murrell is in court in Edinburgh today. This is for the preliminary hearing which was postponed from before the election. It will be interesting to see how the criminal proceedings proceed.

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/peter-murrell-arrives-at-court-ahead-of-hearing-on-embezzlement-charges/ar-AA23Ybuy?ocid=msedgntp&pc

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SirChenjins · 27/05/2026 21:27

It gets worse and worse, doesn't it. Anyone who truly believes that Murrell acted alone is utterly deluded.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 27/05/2026 21:49

Differentforgirls · 27/05/2026 18:55

It’s Scotland. If you want to be in England, move there.

nah. We want a Scotland free from regressive parochial nationalism.

PhaedraTwo · 27/05/2026 21:57

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 27/05/2026 21:49

nah. We want a Scotland free from regressive parochial nationalism.

A good point. It's so irritating that if you're not SNP, pro - separatist you don't care about Scotland, when it's quite the opposite. I'm anti SNP because I do care.

WearyAuldWumman · 27/05/2026 21:58

Arran2024 · 27/05/2026 17:56

That's the thing - he didn't just transfer money to his own account, he bought actual stuff with SNP money, like a 90th birthday card.

What did for me was the revelation that he'd popped into the Dunfermline Homebase to buy mundane things.

Zebrah · 27/05/2026 22:15

It’s the chips on their shoulders that get to me. Like we should feel down trodden because ‘Westminster’, while turning a blind eye to the billions of £ Scotland benefits from being part of the Union. You don’t need to feel downtrodden and inferior you know. You can be happy in your identify as a Scot living in Scotland while raking in £bn from being in the UK too.

Zebrah · 27/05/2026 22:16

its the wine coaster that I find most funny. A blingy wine coaster worth thousands, sitting on their mock cherry sideboard of their hum drum persimmon home

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 27/05/2026 22:57

PhaedraTwo · 27/05/2026 21:57

A good point. It's so irritating that if you're not SNP, pro - separatist you don't care about Scotland, when it's quite the opposite. I'm anti SNP because I do care.

Exactly. 🎯

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 27/05/2026 22:59

Zebrah · 27/05/2026 22:16

its the wine coaster that I find most funny. A blingy wine coaster worth thousands, sitting on their mock cherry sideboard of their hum drum persimmon home

And paid for by ordinary Scottish people who paid out their hard earned cash.

Helpmaboa · 27/05/2026 23:05

I’m hoping the lesson will be don’t be duped by the SNP

This must knock the Indy stuff on the head: who could possibly trust them?

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 28/05/2026 05:21

Butchyrestingface · 27/05/2026 14:28

A newie but a baddie goodie.

Isn’t that the Smythson bag is on the list of shady purchases……👀

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 28/05/2026 05:24

Zebrah · 27/05/2026 22:16

its the wine coaster that I find most funny. A blingy wine coaster worth thousands, sitting on their mock cherry sideboard of their hum drum persimmon home

Next to the £2k Lalique salt and pepper set 😂 have you seen those - ugly AF 😂

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 28/05/2026 05:45

TobyEsterhase · 27/05/2026 19:48

Sadly, a substantial minority of the Scottish population are Anglophobes with a chip on both shoulders. It's this resentful, parochial, aggressive, ignorant, tribal and sycophantic mentality which explains the popularity of SNP and Old Firm.

Nailed it. It’s a really odd tribalism amongst some in Scotland….are you catholic/protestant? Rangers/Celtic?, Indy/unionist?

Like you have to define yourself as one side or the other. As sectarianism has become less socially acceptable (and it was at one point!!😳) so the acceptable form of tribalism has shifted to political affiliation.

I think (as one myself) that West coasters are worse for this…I hated it growing up before Indy was even a thing - “what school did you go to?” was not the innocent question it seemed. You only have to look at the Rangers and Celtic shops as you head to departures in Glasgow Airport as a tragically cringy representation of this.

It’s like some people make it their whole identity. Quite sad really. At the risk of getting flamed - it’s often the less educated and disadvantaged who fall into the Indy camp - the flagrant vote buying, headlining “free stuff” which isn’t actually free at all to Scotland overall (afforded thanks to the extra spending afforded by being part of the UK) is simplistic enough at first glance to hook them in. And once you’ve “declared your tribe”? No turning back, it’s entrenched. Even when they are stolen from by their worshipped political leaders - you can find cult like apologists for them everywhere.

It’s very clear the SNP PR line in recent days has been - lone wolf criminal, we’ve all been victims.

BS - we see you.

sorry - this has turned into a very early rant! Might take myself off for a run. This stuff rips my knitting something awful 😂

Peter Murrell embezzlement trial
TobyEsterhase · 28/05/2026 06:25

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 28/05/2026 05:45

Nailed it. It’s a really odd tribalism amongst some in Scotland….are you catholic/protestant? Rangers/Celtic?, Indy/unionist?

Like you have to define yourself as one side or the other. As sectarianism has become less socially acceptable (and it was at one point!!😳) so the acceptable form of tribalism has shifted to political affiliation.

I think (as one myself) that West coasters are worse for this…I hated it growing up before Indy was even a thing - “what school did you go to?” was not the innocent question it seemed. You only have to look at the Rangers and Celtic shops as you head to departures in Glasgow Airport as a tragically cringy representation of this.

It’s like some people make it their whole identity. Quite sad really. At the risk of getting flamed - it’s often the less educated and disadvantaged who fall into the Indy camp - the flagrant vote buying, headlining “free stuff” which isn’t actually free at all to Scotland overall (afforded thanks to the extra spending afforded by being part of the UK) is simplistic enough at first glance to hook them in. And once you’ve “declared your tribe”? No turning back, it’s entrenched. Even when they are stolen from by their worshipped political leaders - you can find cult like apologists for them everywhere.

It’s very clear the SNP PR line in recent days has been - lone wolf criminal, we’ve all been victims.

BS - we see you.

sorry - this has turned into a very early rant! Might take myself off for a run. This stuff rips my knitting something awful 😂

There ought to be research done into why Scotland (and Glasgow in particular) is so rooted in tribalism which leads so many people to have such an unhealthy affinity with SNP and or Old Firm in spite of (or perhaps because of) the obnoxious behaviour of these organisations.

Tribalism also manifests itself in a deep resentment to anyone who breaks out of the tribe and achieves material success (see Ross Greer and Malcolm Offord).

Why are so many Scots wedded to the long gone days of heavy industry when the men in the town largely worked in the mine/steelworks/shipyard and the women looked after the home ?

Why is our National Anthem focused on a war which took place more than 700 years ago ? (Imagine if British anthem contained the line "sent Adolf home to think again)

Why is a sneering attitude towards "the English" and low level Anglophobia acceptable throughout Scottish society?

Why is so little made of the achievements of Great Scots such as Adam Smith, David Hume, James Watt, Alexander Fleming, Andrew Carnegie et al ?

boobashka · 28/05/2026 06:46

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 28/05/2026 05:45

Nailed it. It’s a really odd tribalism amongst some in Scotland….are you catholic/protestant? Rangers/Celtic?, Indy/unionist?

Like you have to define yourself as one side or the other. As sectarianism has become less socially acceptable (and it was at one point!!😳) so the acceptable form of tribalism has shifted to political affiliation.

I think (as one myself) that West coasters are worse for this…I hated it growing up before Indy was even a thing - “what school did you go to?” was not the innocent question it seemed. You only have to look at the Rangers and Celtic shops as you head to departures in Glasgow Airport as a tragically cringy representation of this.

It’s like some people make it their whole identity. Quite sad really. At the risk of getting flamed - it’s often the less educated and disadvantaged who fall into the Indy camp - the flagrant vote buying, headlining “free stuff” which isn’t actually free at all to Scotland overall (afforded thanks to the extra spending afforded by being part of the UK) is simplistic enough at first glance to hook them in. And once you’ve “declared your tribe”? No turning back, it’s entrenched. Even when they are stolen from by their worshipped political leaders - you can find cult like apologists for them everywhere.

It’s very clear the SNP PR line in recent days has been - lone wolf criminal, we’ve all been victims.

BS - we see you.

sorry - this has turned into a very early rant! Might take myself off for a run. This stuff rips my knitting something awful 😂

Are you me? Agree with every word. Thank you for expressing it so well.

Marmaladeaddict · 28/05/2026 07:09

boobashka · 28/05/2026 06:46

Are you me? Agree with every word. Thank you for expressing it so well.

I agree with every word too.

Marmaladeaddict · 28/05/2026 07:12

WearyAuldWumman · 27/05/2026 21:58

What did for me was the revelation that he'd popped into the Dunfermline Homebase to buy mundane things.

The impression I get is of a deeply bored man with nothing much to do. I can’t imagine she was home much.
What is his background? It seems that throwing money around gave him some sort of kick. I wonder if he was brought up relatively poor.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 28/05/2026 07:18

@TobyEsterhase

Why are so many Scots wedded to the long gone days of heavy industry when the men in the town largely worked in the mine/steelworks/shipyard and the women looked after the home ?

And it seems to be transferred to the public sector now, much higher proportion of Scots working in public sector than elsewhere in UK? It seems unsustainable 😔

guinnessguzzler · 28/05/2026 07:24

Marmaladeaddict · 28/05/2026 07:12

The impression I get is of a deeply bored man with nothing much to do. I can’t imagine she was home much.
What is his background? It seems that throwing money around gave him some sort of kick. I wonder if he was brought up relatively poor.

I think it must be something like this. My theory is that with a lot of these really bizarre behaviours something happens to kick it off, which can even be accidental (potentially Harold Shipman, Lucy Letby) and they get a thrill out of it and then the pattern just builds. It could be he was just greedy and entitled, especially at the start, but by the end I think it must have been some kind of compulsion that kept escalating.

Lomonald · 28/05/2026 07:26

Marmaladeaddict · 28/05/2026 07:12

The impression I get is of a deeply bored man with nothing much to do. I can’t imagine she was home much.
What is his background? It seems that throwing money around gave him some sort of kick. I wonder if he was brought up relatively poor.

His Wikipedia has nothing about his child hood except he went to an ordinary looking secondary school in Edinburgh, then Glasgow university with no mention of what he studied. He was maybe so bored he Doctored his own Wikipedia page.

Igneococcus · 28/05/2026 07:59

Marmaladeaddict · 28/05/2026 07:12

The impression I get is of a deeply bored man with nothing much to do. I can’t imagine she was home much.
What is his background? It seems that throwing money around gave him some sort of kick. I wonder if he was brought up relatively poor.

I agree with this. I think he was bored out of his tree. I actually googled to see what a political party CEO does and I do think most people would be bored doing this for 20 years (not an excuse for embezzelment obvs)

JustAnotherWhinger · 28/05/2026 07:59

Lomonald · 28/05/2026 07:26

His Wikipedia has nothing about his child hood except he went to an ordinary looking secondary school in Edinburgh, then Glasgow university with no mention of what he studied. He was maybe so bored he Doctored his own Wikipedia page.

Looking at his wiki, his jump to CEO seems rather bizarre

Church of Scotland PR
Membership Convener Banff & buchan 1989
Election agent
Secretary Banff branch citizens advice
Research assistant to Alex salmond
parliamentary assistant to Allan McCartney
Staff member for Ian Hutton & SnP fisheries spokesman
CEO

That doesn’t seem like the most usual path to the most senior job in an organisation

JustAnotherWhinger · 28/05/2026 08:11

At the risk of getting flamed - it’s often the less educated and disadvantaged who fall into the Indy camp

Poverty and ‘it’s them vs us’ plays a huge part in the tribalism in Glasgow and the west imo.

The split of areas into Catholic and not began when Glaswegians competing for jobs with the Irish immigrants clashed with them, hence the immigrants opting to live in areas with other immigrants.

Doing genealogy you see some things on certificates and in record books. Researching one family legend about a well off female relative who married an Irishman I found her marriage certificate and it actually has “Mick travelling salesman” as his occupation.

And although sectarianism has got lesser over the years children are still taught that they are different from each other the second they go to school.

Theres a lovely joint campus school in Lanarkshire (there are several I think but in the one I know of) it’s one big building, lots of talk about nice it is for the children to go to the same school building. They have breaks at different times, they have lunch at different times and use different entrances. So they go to the same building but they don’t mix.

When the one in Cumbernauld was being built the Catholic Church objected to the children potentially using the same entrances. They also wanted separate staff rooms. No dilution of the religious ethos should be allowed… It’s absolute nonsense that they should have had any say in what door children go through.

SirChenjins · 28/05/2026 08:55

The separation of schools by religion here is an abomination in this day and age, and something that should have been stamped put years ago - but it's not in the SNP's interest to do anything about it. Sectarianism is alive and well, especially in the West, and until it's addressed by taking religion out of schools it will simply continue.

awaynboilyurheid · 28/05/2026 09:00

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 25/05/2026 11:31

Handy this was postponed till after the elections though. What a coincidence…

Was the court case put off till after the election? If it was moved who arranged that move? If thats what happened then that’s the SNP using the courts for their advantage in the election I can’t find out if it was moved or original date but the whole thing is just so underhand.
I also find it hard to believe she didn’t know the story of “ it was parked at his mothers” so she didn’t know is just unbelievable.

awaynboilyurheid · 28/05/2026 09:05

PhaedraTwo · 27/05/2026 21:57

A good point. It's so irritating that if you're not SNP, pro - separatist you don't care about Scotland, when it's quite the opposite. I'm anti SNP because I do care.

💯 this.

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