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2024 exam thread

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motheronthedancefloor · 19/04/2024 19:24

Hows everyone's kids getting on with their exams / studying?

DDs first Higher exam is D&M I think. She's been busy working on past papers but feels fairly confident. She is least confident about Chemistry.

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YouBelongWithMe · 07/05/2024 20:23

I'd encourage him to write essays to build up speed and fluency. Do some mindmaps of important quotes or references for SST. RUAE short examples (I can send you a whole whack if you like)

Kazeragi · 07/05/2024 20:30

Thank you so much this is very helpful! They have loads of resources, quite possibly too many, a bit of overwhelm going on this week.
Dc convinced they've to learn their critical essay by heart?

weebarra · 07/05/2024 20:32

DS1 has a weekly tutorial with an online group - he did the same with Nat5 and ended up with a B after a predicted D.
He's been using past papers, online resources, study groups at school.
For RUAE, he's been very much looking at the structure of his answers and what he needs to cover to get the marks.

YouBelongWithMe · 07/05/2024 20:42

Kazeragi · 07/05/2024 20:30

Thank you so much this is very helpful! They have loads of resources, quite possibly too many, a bit of overwhelm going on this week.
Dc convinced they've to learn their critical essay by heart?

No. They should know their text. What happens, key events/quotes/techniques. But bbe able to apply it to different Q's.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 07/05/2024 20:56

@britINscotland encouragement is great but some parents really get far too involved. In S4 I gave DC help/support in some subjects but in S5 he knows what he's got to do better than I do and I am mostly leaving him to it, checking in to ask how he's getting on every so often.

Vettrianofan · 07/05/2024 21:16

Kazeragi · 07/05/2024 19:42

What are people doing to help DC with higher English? I feel a bit lost

Sitting with him and chatting about the past paper questions and helping encourage him. He often procrastinates. Thankfully he has extra time/ICT support (especially for H English) for all his subjects arranged or he would struggle massively.

Vettrianofan · 07/05/2024 21:19

Misthios · 04/05/2024 09:45

It's always been that way though, and is why so many schools start the Higher syllabus early June as soon as the exams are over. I remember the huge shift in gear from O Grade to Higher when I did them, and my sister who was the first year to do the new standard grades was the same.

The new timetable at DC's school starts end of May. Often whilst exams are still on😬

Snoopsteandcooper · 07/05/2024 21:33

Third time round for me. I usually get DC to tell me all about the book/poem(s) that they are doing and then i ask them to explain what they liked about the text etc...DS has done Edwin Morgan poems and Animal Farm. I think he found it helpful to have a discussion about Animal Farm and he was interested in the Russian Revolution allegory, so enjoyed the text, which helps.

Vettrianofan · 07/05/2024 21:44

motheronthedancefloor · 28/04/2024 21:19

bloody love dulce et decorum est

DD is doing Norman McCaig - again - both N5 and Higher.

Same for DS, he will probably be put off reading Mccaig for the rest of his life🤣Roll on Thursday.

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 08/05/2024 00:37

britINscotland · 07/05/2024 20:09

You don't have to be knowledgeable - get your kids to use bitesize website, youtube videos, e sgoil, supported study at school, past papers on the SQA website - all those resources are free.

If you have some budget, buy study guides and/or get a tutor.

It annoys me that parents leave kids to it or think that teaching is just the schools job. Parents have a part to play too. So many parents act surprised when their kids don't do as well and put the blame entirely on the school.

They say 'it takes a village' for a reason...

My eldest has 7 As at N5, 5 As at higher and a clutch of unconditional university offers so it’s hardly like my lax parenting has held him
back ;)

the things you mention are just part of general parenting to me

Vettrianofan · 08/05/2024 06:47

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 08/05/2024 00:37

My eldest has 7 As at N5, 5 As at higher and a clutch of unconditional university offers so it’s hardly like my lax parenting has held him
back ;)

the things you mention are just part of general parenting to me

These are not run of the mill passes for most secondary aged pupils in Scotland so we'll done to your DS @DownWithThisKindOfThing

Most don't achieve straight As.

Vettrianofan · 08/05/2024 06:47

*well done

Vettrianofan · 08/05/2024 06:53

DS has additional support needs that were late being picked up by the local authority, there just doesn't seem to be the knowledge about dysgraphia and so on. Awaiting diagnosis from CAMHS re: ADHD and autism, to be honest it's a miracle he got the amazing passes he did for his NAT5s last year.

For children who breeze through school, thank your lucky stars. Many have additional needs that have not been recognised quickly enough and struggle so much.

If DS passes all four Highers with a C I will be very proud of him tbh. He is likely to get an A in music as it comes natural to him but the other three (one is a crash Higher) a C is probably more realistic. I have spent a lot of my time with him during the school day supporting him or no revision would be done.

weebarra · 08/05/2024 08:05

@Vettrianofan - completely get what you're saying. DH and I are both professionals who sailed through school without too much effort.
I'm incredibly proud of DS1 for passing his Nat5s last year, and if he even passes 2 of his Highers I'll be delighted.
He's going on to a college course where hopefully his adhd and dyslexia won't hold him back too much.
I am jealous of all my friends with straight A children, but I know that all sorts of things can lie behind a peaceful facade. I just sometimes wish I had more 'straightforward' children.

Vettrianofan · 08/05/2024 08:16

weebarra · 08/05/2024 08:05

@Vettrianofan - completely get what you're saying. DH and I are both professionals who sailed through school without too much effort.
I'm incredibly proud of DS1 for passing his Nat5s last year, and if he even passes 2 of his Highers I'll be delighted.
He's going on to a college course where hopefully his adhd and dyslexia won't hold him back too much.
I am jealous of all my friends with straight A children, but I know that all sorts of things can lie behind a peaceful facade. I just sometimes wish I had more 'straightforward' children.

Glad someone else understands on this thread. I was dreading this study leave as it approached knowing I have to put any plans aside for myself to focus on my eldest and really give him my full support just now. I'm studying part time with the OU so having to juggle my own coursework round his needs.

Your DS will be successful too @weebarra there's more ways than just conventional Highers to be successful. With lots of parental supports he will really thrive❤️

Kazeragi · 08/05/2024 08:38

I think this being mumsnet, there will be a higher than the average amount of straight As offspring!
I'm delighted mine is sitting any highers at all...it didn't look likely at the start of the Nat 5 journey!
Good luck to all of them!

theferry · 08/05/2024 10:27

Vettrianofan · 08/05/2024 08:16

Glad someone else understands on this thread. I was dreading this study leave as it approached knowing I have to put any plans aside for myself to focus on my eldest and really give him my full support just now. I'm studying part time with the OU so having to juggle my own coursework round his needs.

Your DS will be successful too @weebarra there's more ways than just conventional Highers to be successful. With lots of parental supports he will really thrive❤️

I can appreciate how you feel. DD is highly dyslexic and struggles hugely. I helped her a lot for Nat 5s and she managed to get 3 As and 3B’s. Ultimately, though, she was the one who wrote the exams. I just helped her revise and organise things.

I'm also helping with Highers, but I fear that we won’t have the same outcome. She knows her stuff, but even with extra time she hasn’t been able to complete a paper within the time limit. It takes her so long to read tte extracts in English exams that she has no time to write.

Kazeragi · 08/05/2024 10:32

@theferry does she not get extra time? (Altho I appreciate it's hard even with that)

theferry · 08/05/2024 10:36

Kazeragi · 08/05/2024 10:32

@theferry does she not get extra time? (Altho I appreciate it's hard even with that)

Yes, she gets between 25% and 33% extra time. The amount of reading there is for the English exams is really challenging.

Vettrianofan · 08/05/2024 10:48

theferry · 08/05/2024 10:27

I can appreciate how you feel. DD is highly dyslexic and struggles hugely. I helped her a lot for Nat 5s and she managed to get 3 As and 3B’s. Ultimately, though, she was the one who wrote the exams. I just helped her revise and organise things.

I'm also helping with Highers, but I fear that we won’t have the same outcome. She knows her stuff, but even with extra time she hasn’t been able to complete a paper within the time limit. It takes her so long to read tte extracts in English exams that she has no time to write.

Similar issues with DS then with Higher English. His OT was able to spot all his difficulties really quickly during assessment a few months ago.

Yes, similar here last year working through revision materials with DS. I also feel Higher outcomes won't work out as successful. He sat eight NAT 5s and got a mixture of As and Bs and one C.

I wish more awareness was out there about the ones who are bright but struggle so much. DS has been told by his school he has a very high IQ, but this means nothing if you cannot relate well to the world around you and adapt your intellect to exam conditions.

Kazeragi · 08/05/2024 10:48

Oh that's not much is it? I hope she does ok.❤️
I read an RUAE paper alongside my dc the other day and was surprised how long it took them. They're quite tough passages.

Vettrianofan · 08/05/2024 10:50

DS is getting extra time and needs ICT support too. He would have struggled without tbh.

YouBelongWithMe · 08/05/2024 18:50

Best of luck to all the kids sitting H English tomorrow. It'll be lovely to have a big and challenging one out of the way.

My son is lucky in that he doesn't have any AAA (diabetes aside) but he really struggles with the RUAE Q's because he's such a literal kid and doesn't realise he's allowed to infer. It's been a real struggle and sometimes his rigidity in understanding has impacted his performance.

Time will tell. Either way, he won't repeat it so he's done with English!

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 08/05/2024 19:05

My youngest has ASD and got 25% extra time and to use ICT for his N5 English. I'm praying he got a C after a no award at prelim, we got him a tutor which seems to have helped, time will tell I guess. If he hasn't got a C he will be resitting but if he does better than expected I have told him we won't be insisting he does the higher. My eldest is brilliant at English, got 95% or something crazy in his N5, and although he did get an A at higher he found the step up really hard.

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 08/05/2024 19:08

Vettrianofan · 08/05/2024 06:53

DS has additional support needs that were late being picked up by the local authority, there just doesn't seem to be the knowledge about dysgraphia and so on. Awaiting diagnosis from CAMHS re: ADHD and autism, to be honest it's a miracle he got the amazing passes he did for his NAT5s last year.

For children who breeze through school, thank your lucky stars. Many have additional needs that have not been recognised quickly enough and struggle so much.

If DS passes all four Highers with a C I will be very proud of him tbh. He is likely to get an A in music as it comes natural to him but the other three (one is a crash Higher) a C is probably more realistic. I have spent a lot of my time with him during the school day supporting him or no revision would be done.

I have one high flier and one with ASD who until p6 could barely even sit in a classroom, then had his transition and first 2 years at high school impacted by covid, so I do understand. Assuming my youngest passes his 6 Nat 5 he'll be doing 1 or at most 2 highers next year. He's as intelligent as his brother but he's just not suited to the system of assessment via examination we have which is crap for such children.