Page 6 | XL bully dogs and Scotland

CoatOfArms · 2023-12-22T08:03:22+00:00

Another blinder by our "wonderful" government. I was not aware that the ban on these awful chav beast dogs only applied in England and Wales. No legislation to ban/restrict them in Scotland. [[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67787667 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67787667]] Some dim woman who runs a "bullie rescue" says she has been "inundated". Isn't that just marvellous.

HerMammy · 30/12/2023 08:57

@oakleaffy
You really need to stop the dramatics, firstly they are not xl pit bulls. One dog you have heard of was in need of handling at the vets, that does not mean every xl requires en masse staff at vets.
You really need to calm down and stop with the dramatic language and ott story telling.
You come across like the hysterical pit bull haters in the States.

whatsitcalledwhen · 30/12/2023 09:15

@HerMammy

Do you think that it is ever a responsible decision for someone with children in their home to choose an XL bully as a pet?

BigBoysDontCry · 30/12/2023 09:20

I dunno about dramatics, but 11 fatalities and who knows how many life altering injuries really leads you to wonder what positive things these dogs are bringing to the table, especially as family pets.

I might have missed their cheerleaders giving that information?

SirChenjins · 30/12/2023 09:21

The only one using dramatic language on this thread is you @HerMammy These dogs are responsible for the majority of fatal attacks in recent years - people are quite right to give them a swerve whenever possible.

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/12/2023 09:22

Quite. And that's just the human attacks. There have been many, many fatal and severe attacks on other dogs, people's beloved family pets mauled right on front of them.

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CoatOfArms · 30/12/2023 09:29

I just think it's mental that in Scotland we are not doing the same thing as the rest of the country we are joined on to. I can see the argument for N Ireland doing what the Republic are doing as they are joined on - although that's another huge political can of worms.

I could take my massive XL bully off the lead, down Buchanan St this afternoon through all the thousands of shoppers and that'd be absolutely OK. And so what if the dog "wants a sniff", it's just doing what dogs do, right?

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Dissimilitude · 30/12/2023 09:50

I saw literally this about a month ago.

Massive bully off the lead on sauchihall / buchanan street. Owned by a ned who was obviously enjoying everyone’s discomfort.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 30/12/2023 12:39

HerMammy · 30/12/2023 08:57

@oakleaffy
You really need to stop the dramatics, firstly they are not xl pit bulls. One dog you have heard of was in need of handling at the vets, that does not mean every xl requires en masse staff at vets.
You really need to calm down and stop with the dramatic language and ott story telling.
You come across like the hysterical pit bull haters in the States.

To be an XL there needs to be pit in the genetics so it is basically a pit but with other breeds added in as well.
The only dramatics is coming from the XL bully owners and supporters who are being merely asked to spay/neuter, register their dog and use a muzzle and lead. Hardly anything more than what a responsible owner would be doing anyway.
To listen to them whine for England you would think police were going to go round to every house with and dig and shoot it.
As for you stating about the “pit bull haters in America” well yes and they have reason to have you seen the number of deaths and maulings over there….
Equally you have no idea of the amount of those that have had their dog killed by this breed/type and have watched their beloved pet mauled to death in front of their very eyes.

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CoatOfArms · 30/12/2023 12:44

who are being merely asked to spay/neuter, register their dog and use a muzzle and lead. Hardly anything more than what a responsible owner would be doing anyway.

In England and Wales. They are not being asked to do any of this in Scotland which is sort of the point of hte thread...

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AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 30/12/2023 12:56

@CoatOfArms I’m also a community HCP and we can request that a risk assessment be carried out regarding pets in the home. We can also ask patients to put their animal away but the majority I’ve been to refuse and are quite put out that I don’t love their fur baby jumping at me or being all over my sterile field

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CoatOfArms · 30/12/2023 13:09

I would be very reluctant to go into a house with any badly trained dog - where would you stand as a community midwife, district nurse or similar if you refused to go to a house because it was too dangerous? It's a hard one because in a clinic setting you could absolutely refuse to let an animal through the door. But you are going into the family's space.

I very much identify with people being "put out" that you don't love their animal as much as they do.

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BigBoysDontCry · 30/12/2023 13:14

Apart from individual owners declaring that their dog is perfect and loveable, I'm still not seeing any justification for these dogs to be allowed to be bred. I mean you couldn't even argue the case for them being guard dogs as there are plenty of other breeds who do an excellent job without the baggage that these dogs have.

I still see them as a loaded gun and I absolutely agree that this is not the animals fault, it's not okay to allow the situation to continue.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 30/12/2023 13:19

CoatOfArms · 30/12/2023 12:44

who are being merely asked to spay/neuter, register their dog and use a muzzle and lead. Hardly anything more than what a responsible owner would be doing anyway.

In England and Wales. They are not being asked to do any of this in Scotland which is sort of the point of hte thread...

Oh I know.But the amount of whining from those in England is unbelievable, that was in response to that other poster claiming about dramatics by those who are for the ban in whichever country.

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/12/2023 13:34

I still see them as a loaded gun and I absolutely agree that this is not the animals fault, it's not okay to allow the situation to continue.

A loaded gun with a broken safety catch and a loose trigger.

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CoatOfArms · 30/12/2023 13:38

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/12/2023 13:34

I still see them as a loaded gun and I absolutely agree that this is not the animals fault, it's not okay to allow the situation to continue.

A loaded gun with a broken safety catch and a loose trigger.

In the hands of someone who thinks ballistics training and learning how to shoot safely is for losers.

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oakleaffy · 30/12/2023 14:26

HerMammy · 29/12/2023 18:26

I'm sorry but that is utter nonsense; 6 staff for one dog?
As of now, any XL will be muzzled before it leaves its home, at a vet the owner, vet and if needed a vet nurse would be adequate.
It's a large breed dog not a bloody lion, do they treat rotties, newfies with the same staff ratio?

Do you think the staff WANTED to be taken from other duties to have to help safely restrain an out of control dog?
It takes only two staff to handle a Horse , usually.
The vet and a groom.
XL Pits are highly over excitable and that can boil over into serious biting very fast.

Vets value themselves and staff and other animals on the premises.

SidekickSylvia · 30/12/2023 15:50

HerMammy · 30/12/2023 08:57

@oakleaffy
You really need to stop the dramatics, firstly they are not xl pit bulls. One dog you have heard of was in need of handling at the vets, that does not mean every xl requires en masse staff at vets.
You really need to calm down and stop with the dramatic language and ott story telling.
You come across like the hysterical pit bull haters in the States.

It's not 'dramatics'. Has any other dog killed 9 fit, fully grown adults within a time frame of 2 years? My friend is a vet, the one that also won't see or treat XL Bullies, and her reasoning isn't just how dangerous they are to humans, but how often she's had to PTS smaller dogs having been attacked by them. She doesn't want them in her waiting room, and neither do her clients. It might not make the news, but I'd like to see some statistics for deaths of pets caused by them.

Seriously, what do these dogs offer that you can't find in another dog?

SirChenjins · 30/12/2023 15:53

Things and reasons

SomeCatFromJapan · 30/12/2023 15:55

@SidekickSylvia the X account Bully Watch does its best to report and collate the attacks if you're interested.

https://twitter.com/BullyWatchUK

Lildevil1234 · 30/12/2023 16:10

This is disgusting that some of you have no hearts it’s not just bully breeds that attack there is lots of different breeds that do this and humans do it too yeh? just because a few got out of hand that’s like putting a human on trial for murder and putting a ban on humans it’s inhumane!! Most bullies are big babies and just want love that’s it it should be the owners banned not the dogs! While your all sitting comfy in your homes hundreds of loving innocent dogs are going to be euthanised on New Year’s Day yous make me sick! Would be funny to see what you would all be saying if there was ban on humans trying to save yourselves!! Not hearts whatsoever! All dogs are dangerous if they are pushed and mistreated humans even more so cos we can choose to be arsholes or not!

whatsitcalledwhen · 30/12/2023 16:19

Lildevil1234 · 30/12/2023 16:10

This is disgusting that some of you have no hearts it’s not just bully breeds that attack there is lots of different breeds that do this and humans do it too yeh? just because a few got out of hand that’s like putting a human on trial for murder and putting a ban on humans it’s inhumane!! Most bullies are big babies and just want love that’s it it should be the owners banned not the dogs! While your all sitting comfy in your homes hundreds of loving innocent dogs are going to be euthanised on New Year’s Day yous make me sick! Would be funny to see what you would all be saying if there was ban on humans trying to save yourselves!! Not hearts whatsoever! All dogs are dangerous if they are pushed and mistreated humans even more so cos we can choose to be arsholes or not!

All dogs are dangerous if they are pushed and mistreated humans even more so cos we can choose to be arsholes or not!

But some dogs, like XL bullies, cannot be overpowered if they are in attack mode.

It's not that they're the only dogs who attack people. Chihuahuas attack people. But they can be comparatively very, very easily removed from the situation.

If an XL bully attacks a child, the child doesn't stand a chance. At all. That is simply not true for all dogs.

If you had a child, would you rather it was locked in a room with a chihuahua you didn't know or an XL bully you didn't know?

BigBoysDontCry · 30/12/2023 16:21

Lildevil1234 · 30/12/2023 16:10

This is disgusting that some of you have no hearts it’s not just bully breeds that attack there is lots of different breeds that do this and humans do it too yeh? just because a few got out of hand that’s like putting a human on trial for murder and putting a ban on humans it’s inhumane!! Most bullies are big babies and just want love that’s it it should be the owners banned not the dogs! While your all sitting comfy in your homes hundreds of loving innocent dogs are going to be euthanised on New Year’s Day yous make me sick! Would be funny to see what you would all be saying if there was ban on humans trying to save yourselves!! Not hearts whatsoever! All dogs are dangerous if they are pushed and mistreated humans even more so cos we can choose to be arsholes or not!

Have you not read any of this thread?

I think statistically you are probably more likely to be bitten by a Jack Russell than a bully type dog but the difference is that a jack Russell is unlikely to be able to kill you, you could kick it into touch quite easily.

I do feel sorry for the dogs and would happily euthanize the owners at the same time for gross stupidity and greed.

But breeding of these types needs to stop. It serves no purpose to society.

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CoatOfArms · 30/12/2023 16:23

it’s not just bully breeds that attack there is lots of different breeds that do this and humans do it too yeh?

I'd fancy my chances against a cockapoo or yorkie. Not so much a bully breed, yeh? 🙄

Most bullies are big babies and just want love

Aww, the poor misunderstood chav beasts, they don't really want to rip your throat out, they want to lick you to death. All those press reports must have got it wrong.

ban on humans

Debating and putting forward a rational argument isn't your strong point is it? Yeh?

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Bolloxforsure · 30/12/2023 16:37

Nice to hear people would happily kill me because I own a chav beast. Almost amusing.

SirChenjins · 30/12/2023 16:38

Yous are all just big meanies - most of these wee dogs are big softies who just want to be loved.

The others will rip your throat out or maul other dogs to pieces given half the chance, but shhh…we don’t talk about them.