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XL bully dogs and Scotland

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CoatOfArms · 22/12/2023 08:03

Another blinder by our "wonderful" government. I was not aware that the ban on these awful chav beast dogs only applied in England and Wales. No legislation to ban/restrict them in Scotland.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67787667

Some dim woman who runs a "bullie rescue" says she has been "inundated". Isn't that just marvellous.

Angie Lukey

The Scots taking in XL Bullies as England cracks down

Five-month-old Buddy has just arrived after his owner in Liverpool decided to give him up.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67787667

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whatsitcalledwhen · 19/02/2024 00:10

@Buddybud

Because I don’t believe in the hyperbole. I think you are being very black or white on your thinking.

Do you think the statistics are made up then?

Do you think that people have died from other breeds attacking them that haven't been reported so aren't included in the data set?

You must know that isn't the case. So you must acknowledge the hugely disproportionate number of deaths by a breed there are very few of in comparison to other breeds in the UK.

And they don't have to die. There is an amnesty. They have to be registered and owners are required to implement the new rules required in order to minimise risk. Those rules will help attacks reducing in frequency, meaning less dogs will need to be put down.

You speak of hyperbole but implying all XL bullies will be called is just that.

whatsitcalledwhen · 19/02/2024 00:11

And @Buddybud do you have children in your home?

Buddybud · 19/02/2024 00:16

@whatsitcalledwhen
We are prepared to register the dog and follow the rules. The dogs in rescue face being PTS, so if we can prevent just one dog from being unnecessarily put down then I feel it’s worth doing.

AIstolemylunch · 19/02/2024 02:05

They are genetically inbred monstrosities. Look into the pedigree of XL Bullies. Of course it's not the dogs fault, humans have done this but they aren't safe to have as pets or be on the street. They don't need reduced, they need pts and backyard breeding and dog ownership strictly regulated to prevent humans doing this again to some other breed. Dog lovers need to stop being so sentimental. Dogs aren't children and these ones were a horrific example of animal cruelty which should be ended now with the ban.

oakleaffy · 19/02/2024 02:48

Buddybud · 19/02/2024 00:16

@whatsitcalledwhen
We are prepared to register the dog and follow the rules. The dogs in rescue face being PTS, so if we can prevent just one dog from being unnecessarily put down then I feel it’s worth doing.

These brutes as others have said are desperately badly bred, they aren't of sound mind, and well meaning loving owners have been severely mauled by them.

There are plenty of mentally sane dogs that need rescuing that are safe to own and not a risk to other people or pets.

A very experienced dog person I know said these are the only dogs that he thinks of as 'psychopaths' in that they turn without warning.

I hope you will keep local children, horses and pet dogs safe from this mauler.

If it turns on you , that's your own choice, but to inflict this choice of unstable dog on your local community is deeply selfish.

whatsitcalledwhen · 19/02/2024 06:46

Buddybud · 19/02/2024 00:16

@whatsitcalledwhen
We are prepared to register the dog and follow the rules. The dogs in rescue face being PTS, so if we can prevent just one dog from being unnecessarily put down then I feel it’s worth doing.

The dog's original owner would be one who wasn't prepared to register it and follow the rules. So you know it's from an irresponsible owner already. Another risk factor.

You didn't answer whether or not you have kids. I assume because you do. How selfish to bring an XL bully into their home despite the factual statistics confirming how disproportionately responsible they are for serious attacks and deaths.

berksandbeyond · 19/02/2024 07:37

I think the ‘adults’ who choose to have an XL bully should be charged with manslaughter when (not if) it mauls some innocent bystander. They can hardly act surprised when little fluffy princess baby muncher… munches a baby!

berksandbeyond · 19/02/2024 07:39

It’s all in the marketing, going to start a petition to get the press to stop calling them xl bullies and start calling them murder machines and see the idiot dog apologists cry about that

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2024 07:41

Buddybud · 19/02/2024 00:16

@whatsitcalledwhen
We are prepared to register the dog and follow the rules. The dogs in rescue face being PTS, so if we can prevent just one dog from being unnecessarily put down then I feel it’s worth doing.

What about if putting them to sleep could save 'just one' child?

CoatOfArms · 19/02/2024 07:57

There really is no point in trying to have a reasonable discussion with misguided people who will "rescue" these animals knowing their reputation, knowing that they have been chucked into a rescue by a feckless owner who didn't fancy complying with the legislation, probably with children in the house.

Really don't understand what motivates them to "rescue" one of these beasts rather than any other dog which needs a home. Whether it's virtue signalling, complete naivety about what they are letting themselves in for, a "fuck you" to the rest of sensible society - I just don't get it.

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SomeCatFromJapan · 19/02/2024 08:14

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/RCjqHEoCo16FaS1R/

Oh look, another one. Mauled a collie and bit three people before the police shot it.

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https://www.facebook.com/share/p/RCjqHEoCo16FaS1R

CoatOfArms · 19/02/2024 08:29

And the first two comments are defending the dog and blaming the "pigs" for shooting it.

Jeezo. There are so many idiots about.

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SomeCatFromJapan · 19/02/2024 10:14

Have you noticed there is zero concern or sympathy for the collie? Quite telling, that. Animal lovers my arse.

BigBoysDontCry · 19/02/2024 10:18

Yep I know!

I loved the one replying to someone concerned about children being around these dogs saying that it didn't say children had been attacked... Aye cos who cares if it's an adult eh? Morons.

And one insisting that it specifically said it wasn't an XL bully when the article says its a bully type.

whatsitcalledwhen · 19/02/2024 10:37

When people comment things like 'well my staffy was attacked by a yorkie' or 'any dog can attack, yorkies do too' like the comments underneath the article, do they genuinely not understand that the difference is even a small child could likely kick off a yorkie if needed while it would be impossible for a child (or adult) to kick off an XL bully in attack mode?

Do they genuinely not understand that? Or do the know that but pretend not to realise in order to continue using the false equivalence?

BigBoysDontCry · 19/02/2024 10:46

Cognitive dissonance? They know and can see the truth but to admit that would be for them to admit the poor decisions they've made and be contrary to their belief that they are a good person doing good things for these poor pups...

BigBoysDontCry · 19/02/2024 10:48

I just can't be believe that while we are lucky to live in country free of natural predators (other than ourselves), we choose to breed something that can kill us and keep it in our homes with our children and wander about society with it on a piece of string. 🤷

SomeCatFromJapan · 19/02/2024 10:51

Apparently it took six shots to stop it. Six.

oakleaffy · 19/02/2024 10:55

CoatOfArms · 19/02/2024 07:57

There really is no point in trying to have a reasonable discussion with misguided people who will "rescue" these animals knowing their reputation, knowing that they have been chucked into a rescue by a feckless owner who didn't fancy complying with the legislation, probably with children in the house.

Really don't understand what motivates them to "rescue" one of these beasts rather than any other dog which needs a home. Whether it's virtue signalling, complete naivety about what they are letting themselves in for, a "fuck you" to the rest of sensible society - I just don't get it.

Your last paragraph basically sums it up, @CoatOfArms

Look at this XL owner.

Her defiant expression and ''up yours'' look

Her own mother pleaded with her not to get one of these antisocial dogs, but the middle aged daughter wouldn't listen.

There is something strange about ''Pitnutters'' as they are called in America - they have zero empathy for other animals that they maul, or children they kill -it's just endless sympathy for the crappy unstable dog type that they are attracted to.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11291089/Mother-woman-mauled-death-XL-Bully-says-warned-bad-happen.html

Mother of woman mauled to death by her XL Bully dog had 'warned' her

Mother-of-two Joanne Robinson, 43, was killed by her American Bully XL dog, Rocco, in July. Her mother Dot has now said she 'warned her something bad was going to happen'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11291089/Mother-woman-mauled-death-XL-Bully-says-warned-bad-happen.html

Irvine21 · 19/02/2024 10:55

There is no telling the bully haters so might as well give up. My innocent dog will be caught up in this ban too even tho he is not an XL bully. He is a cross breed crossed with a boxer and has a big daft bully head as well as standing 21 inches to the withers so according to the government this dog who runs away from Yorkshire terriers is likely to attack and kill😂. When people ask me why is he muzzled when he is clearly very friendly with all sizes of dogs and people, they are shocked when I say he is classed as an XL bully . They soon rethink how they feel about this pathetic ban and the governments very vague description of an XL bully. Really my Labrador fits every bit of the description other than his head so that shows how bad the description is.

oakleaffy · 19/02/2024 10:57

Irvine21 · 19/02/2024 10:55

There is no telling the bully haters so might as well give up. My innocent dog will be caught up in this ban too even tho he is not an XL bully. He is a cross breed crossed with a boxer and has a big daft bully head as well as standing 21 inches to the withers so according to the government this dog who runs away from Yorkshire terriers is likely to attack and kill😂. When people ask me why is he muzzled when he is clearly very friendly with all sizes of dogs and people, they are shocked when I say he is classed as an XL bully . They soon rethink how they feel about this pathetic ban and the governments very vague description of an XL bully. Really my Labrador fits every bit of the description other than his head so that shows how bad the description is.

It's the ''big mauling head'' that makes it fit the ban. {edit...because obviously it's the head that does most of the damage}

Many ''big soft pumpkin headed lumps'' have turned on children and other dogs, even those reared from puppies in decent homes.

Labradors haven't killed people -even though they may bite.

CoatOfArms · 19/02/2024 11:07

Agree that these numpties persist in the bestest boy, soft lump, wouldn’t hurt a fly nonsense because they don’t want to admit to themselves they’ve got it very wrong.

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oakleaffy · 19/02/2024 11:09

SomeCatFromJapan · 19/02/2024 10:51

Apparently it took six shots to stop it. Six.

What...This is ANOTHER shooting compared to the one I posted about in England yesterday {post ban}

So yet more of these maulers have attacked people's pet dogs and then gone on to attack people - and ended up shot.
Here is the latest Scottish one for those who don't want to look at farcebook or don't have an account..

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/12005540/gun-cops-xl-bully-east-kilbride-six-times/

Armed cops shoot 'XL Bully' SIX times at Scots home after 3 people & dog injured

A “DANGEROUSLY out of control” bully-type dog was shot SIX times by cops after it attacked another dog and injured three people. Gun cops were deployed to the Calderwood area of East Ki…

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/12005540/gun-cops-xl-bully-east-kilbride-six-times/

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2024 11:28

they have zero empathy for other animals that they maul, or children they kill -it's just endless sympathy for the crappy unstable dog type that they are attracted to.

I'd wager a guess this is projection. These are unstable people who see themselves in the unstable dog. Many seem to both enjoy scaring and gaslighting people. They enjoy provoking a fear reaction in others, and then mock people for being afraid of them.

Fear is a wholly rational response to an unknown animal that has the power to kill you, I'd say.