XL bully dogs and Scotland

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Another blinder by our "wonderful" government. I was not aware that the ban on these awful chav beast dogs only applied in England and Wales. No legislation to ban/restrict them in Scotland.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67787667

Some dim woman who runs a "bullie rescue" says she has been "inundated". Isn't that just marvellous.

Aww look at the little cuddle pup...🙄

Who wouldn't want that snuggled up on the sofa with their kids?

People with more than half a brain, that's who.

What have they said that's anti Semitic? Can you give a specific example? I'm obviously too thick to remember so please enlighten me with your superior IQ. I cannot imagine thinking that any government shouldn't comment on a conflict, or about people being killed, because its happening 'thousands of miles from us'. What a bizarre and horrible thing to say.

An owner of one of these XL's threw their dog over a motorway {Edit..not motorway but flyover} bridge near Sheffield recently.

The XL was muzzled and died from her injuries.
Only a sadist would do that.

However, a psychological study into the owners of aggressive dogs makes interesting reading.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/canine-corner/200903/psychological-characteristics-owners-aggressive-dog-breeds

You can be anti semetic (or anti anything) by your actions as well as your words.

That's an awful thing to do. I mean I don't want these dogs to be allowed to be a danger to people but I also don't want them treated like that either.

That study is very interesting.

The person I know who owns and breeds locally was a couple of years above my DC at school. Very "jack the lad" impulsive behaviour, in trouble a lot for fighting at school. To be fair always a pleasant and polite lad to speak to and no horrendous rap sheet as far as I'm aware, but just general bad boy stuff putting himself at risk as much as others.

Glasgow Live posted a further update on the Hamilton case this morning. Again, the comments.... people wailing that it's a conspiracy because it's only Bully attacks that get reported.
It doesn't seem to occur to them that most dog breeds don't generally go on rampages that succeed in hospitalising several adults. I'm pretty sure that if a Yorkie managed that feat it would make the news.

Other breed/types don’t tend to severely maul.
An XL or Pit cross shakes their head side to side so the injuries look like a chainsaw or shark attack according to a Surgeon.
Most dogs don’t randomly start attacking or turning in an unprovoked manner onto passive dogs, or children or adults.
Most bites aren’t catastrophic like with XL pit types.

I’ll just leave this here…

Any more recent examples than 2011?

If a sheepdog is understood to have been bred to herd, a terrier is understood to have been bred to dig holes hunting rats, a greyhound is understood to have been bred to race, etc, then why is it so hard to grasp that some dogs are bred to be aggressive and dangerous?

@oakleaffy Are you aware that German shepherds have a stronger bite force than pit bull terriers?

Have you ever played tug with a dog? Any dog? They will often shake their heads from side to side because a tug toy is designed to simulate prey. It’s a pretty typical canine behaviour.

Surely any big strong dog is capable of causing catastrophic injuries. I mean I wouldn’t fancy my chances against a rottie or Doberman. Seriously the way some of you go on about XL bullies you’d think they were some dark supernatural being recently risen from the underworld. Please stop hyper sensationalising these dog because it’s making the situation worse.

Because being aggressive and dangerous isn’t a task like herding or racing. You could argue that a dog is bred to guard and it is therefore dangerous in the wrong hands. For example lots of Eastern European livestock guarding breeds. A greyhound is pretty dangerous if you’re a cat, or in a field full of sheep or even to a smaller dog.. massive prey drive there. It’s all subjective.

@Buddybud

Would you rather your child was attacked by an adult Labrador or an adult XL bully?

If that was the only choice, which one would you honestly choose?

Also @Buddybud the example you found is over a decade old. Any more recent?

Do you think that if the dog had been an XL
bully, that child would still have survived?

Does having to go back 13 years to find that story vs the almost weekly stories about bull breeds not tell you something?

*Are you aware that German shepherds have a stronger bite force than pit bull terriers?

Have you ever played tug with a dog? Any dog? They will often shake their heads from side to side because a tug toy is designed to simulate prey. It’s a pretty typical canine behaviour.

Surely any big strong dog is capable of causing catastrophic injuries. I mean I wouldn’t fancy my chances against a rottie or Doberman. Seriously the way some of you go on about XL bullies you’d think they were some dark supernatural being recently risen from the underworld. Please stop hyper sensationalising these dog because it’s making the situation worse.*

And yet which dogs are killing or seriously injuring people, time and time again? If a German Shepherd indeed has a stronger bite force yet the majority of the dogs injuring and killing people are bull breeds, that says nothing good at all about their temperament.

Well I wouldn't have a rottie or a doberman in my house either but the stats clearly show that despite there being a very small proportion of XL or similar ownership, they are disproportionately involved in deaths and serious injuries.

It might be the types of owners to blame or not but tbh I don't much care. They bring nothing to the world that a more docile breed doesn't and are a clear danger to humans and other animals and have more muscle and weight than your average other breed.

Yes. Just trying to drive home a point with the horrible photo. Spend three minutes googling Labrador attacks. Dog attacks are so common now you can find almost anything to fit your agenda but it’s all antidotal at the end of the day so..

Is there a never-ending supply of people prepared to defend these things? I never realised how many people in Scotland were so seriously deluded and downright dim.

Given how many people vote for the SNP and are still all over X saying they stand with nicola etc. I'm susprised you didn't realise... 😁

but it’s all antidotal at the end of the day so..

Wish there was an antidote to these animals. Pity there's not. Or did you mean "anecdotal"? And it's not anecdotal as the figures, or data, are the opposite of anecdote. The figures clearly show that these animals are responsible for a disproportionate number of serious injuries and fatalities.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cctv-shows-xl-bully-moments-31962072

Here's a link to the dog just before the attack. I wouldn't really love it jumping up and slavering on the counter.

Spend three minutes googling Labrador attacks. Dog attacks are so common now you can find almost anything to fit your agenda but it’s all antidotal at the end of the day so..

Well not really because there are stats collated on dog fatalities in the UK and these show zero deaths caused by labradors. Bullies, on the other hand...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom

Honest thoughts on this @Buddybud?

If you know nothing about the individual dogs other than their breed, which would you rather attacked you or a loved one?

There is actually empirical data about this breed being disproportionately responsible for attacks, but I’m sure that’d just be memory-holed and change zero minds so 🤷

the way some of you go on about XL bullies you’d think they were some dark supernatural being recently risen from the underworld

Well, since you mention it ...

'"Police showed up and Tasered him but he still wouldn't stop. Then armed police came and he was shot four times. The first 2 shots didn't take him out. It was awful to witness, but I know why they had to do it. If he hadn't been killed, he would have killed someone."'