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XL bully dogs and Scotland

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CoatOfArms · 22/12/2023 08:03

Another blinder by our "wonderful" government. I was not aware that the ban on these awful chav beast dogs only applied in England and Wales. No legislation to ban/restrict them in Scotland.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67787667

Some dim woman who runs a "bullie rescue" says she has been "inundated". Isn't that just marvellous.

Angie Lukey

The Scots taking in XL Bullies as England cracks down

Five-month-old Buddy has just arrived after his owner in Liverpool decided to give him up.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67787667

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ArabellaScott · 05/01/2024 09:24

The utter, utter fucking idiots.

Missingmyusername · 05/01/2024 10:07

SirChenjins · 03/01/2024 16:58

I’d got my hopes up there! No, I’m sure it’s not all unloved dogs coming up here - but who knows where they’re going, how they’ll be treated, whether the accommodation is suitable, how they will react to a strange environment, how they will be used for breeding and so on and on. One thing’s for sure though, the SNP will dig their heels on over the issue - after being defeated in court recently hell will freeze over before they admit Westminster is right again and ban them here as well.

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They should all be neutered if they’re in rescue.

There should be no puppies.

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2024 10:16

They're not going into rescues, though. They're being delivered straight to random people off of Facebook. So we're going to get the dogs that were likely not cared for, being delivered likely highly stressed and anxious after a confusing long journey, into the hands of clueless numpties.

What could possibly go wrong?

CoatOfArms · 05/01/2024 10:17

@Missingmyusername are you deliberately not reading the thread? These numpties who are bringing dogs to Scotland are not the RSPCA or a reputable rescue organisation. They are individuals whose "rescue" is a facebook page and their spare room. They are not paying for these things to be neutered, their aim is to ship them out of England/Wales and away from their feckless owners, and fob them off on dimwitted Scottish "animal lovers".

If you are a responsible English/Welsh owner of one of these things you will be neutering it, muzzling it and whatever else is legally required, not sticking it in a transit van and sending it to Stirling or Macduff.

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Dissimilitude · 05/01/2024 10:48

Genuinely puzzled by the SNPs desire to repeatedly die on a series of unimportant hills, despite all the evidence pointing to a deleterious impact on its popularity.

Devil dogs and self ID, I mean, really?

SirChenjins · 05/01/2024 11:32

Self ID is to keep the crazy Greens onside so they keep their majority.

Devil dogs - who knows, but I suspect it’s them flipping the bird at Westminster after the section 35. Once we’ve had a spate of attacks and a fatality or 2 then they will pass legislation that will be kind of like Westminster’s but definitely not the same, oooh no, because no UK govt will tell the SNP what to do 🥱

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2024 11:45

I wonder if they'll have the gall to try and blame inevitable dog attacks on Westminster. It's always hard to parse out what is bog standard incompetence from ill judged attempts to do things differently than Westminster.

I suppose it chimes with their usual virtue signalling that is utterly disconnected from reality - claiming that they require 'evidence' before banning the dogs. And presumably the several deaths don't count as 'evidence' - we need Scottish deaths to do our retrospective 'oh fuck' legislation?

BigBoysDontCry · 05/01/2024 11:54

So why do they need different Scottish evidence in this case? So they honestly think that owner behaviour and dog behaviour is different in Scotland?

There might have been less obvious incidents which is maybe due to having a 10th of the population?

SirChenjins · 05/01/2024 12:09

You’re overthinking it - it’s because everything they do is Scotland-centric, and if it doesn’t happen here then it just doesn’t happen. If they use evidence from elsewhere in the UK that’s admitting we’re part of the UK rather than an independent country which they like pretending we are.

BigBoysDontCry · 05/01/2024 12:34

Yeah I'm with you but as said how do you seperate out disordered thinking from general incompetence?

SomeCatFromJapan · 05/01/2024 12:36

that’s admitting we’re part of the UK rather than an independent country which they like pretending we are.

And then if Westminster does anything that draws attention to the fact that we are indeed not an independent country, there are howls of indignation as if it's a terrible injustice rather than the result of a democratic referendum held in Scotland.

NewnamefirNewYear · 05/01/2024 13:33

I think there has been a fatality in Scotland - although sorry I cant recall the details.

BigBoysDontCry · 05/01/2024 13:47

Yes, there was a fatality in Dundee. It was a man called Adam Watts

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/9678110/dundee-killer-dog-tragedy-attacks-court/

He owned a kennel and was trying to rehabilitate the dog after it was removed from its owner after it had been involved in other attacks.

SomeCatFromJapan · 05/01/2024 13:47

@NewnamefirNewYear a kennel owner in Dundee. The dog was in his kennels after being seized by police.

Missingmyusername · 05/01/2024 13:48

@CoatOfArms

I’ve read the hysteria yes.

oakleaffy · 05/01/2024 13:56

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2024 10:16

They're not going into rescues, though. They're being delivered straight to random people off of Facebook. So we're going to get the dogs that were likely not cared for, being delivered likely highly stressed and anxious after a confusing long journey, into the hands of clueless numpties.

What could possibly go wrong?

One XL Bully called ''Cookie'' {teats almost hitting the floor} was too aggressive for the England to Scotland bloke who is ferrying them from England to ~Scotland.

He couldn't risk it in the van with him.

Can't remember the bloke's name, but he had a stinking cold... and lots of tattoos.

Even he, used to XL's said it was too aggressive.

This dog has clearly recently been bred, and passed it's dodgy genes on to the offspring.

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2024 13:59

Hm. I had thought cars full of these dogs being driven long distances are about the worst possible scenario. The rescues are already talking about dogs who are reactive needing to be rehomed (again) after landing in Scotland stressed and on guard.

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2024 13:59

Missingmyusername · 05/01/2024 13:48

@CoatOfArms

I’ve read the hysteria yes.

'hysteria'.

BigBoysDontCry · 05/01/2024 14:15

Hysteria 🙄

Once again, what are these dogs for? No one is giving any positive traits at all, not even ones you could readily get in another less aggressive/deadly breed.

ValerieMoore · 05/01/2024 14:16

Maybe people like them because they’re a bit dim. I would want an intelligent dog but maybe other people think it’s cute or something.

BigBoysDontCry · 05/01/2024 14:18

We are very lucky to live in a country where there are no natural predictors for humans to be thinking about when going about our business. Apart from other humans that is but that's another story.

And now we have people having to be wary when going for a walk, especially if they have a dog or a child.

Why are we in this situation?

treadingonlego · 05/01/2024 14:21

You’re overthinking it - it’s because everything they do is Scotland-centric, and if it doesn’t happen here then it just doesn’t happen. If they use evidence from elsewhere in the UK that’s admitting we’re part of the UK rather than an independent country which they like pretending we are

Absolutely this.

SirChenjins · 05/01/2024 14:23

NewnamefirNewYear · 05/01/2024 13:33

I think there has been a fatality in Scotland - although sorry I cant recall the details.

You're quite right - my apologies. Obviously one fatality wasn't enough for the idiots in the SNP - they need more deaths before they'll even consider bringing the law here into line with that passed by Westminster.

CoatOfArms · 05/01/2024 14:29

And when they do, it won’t be “into line”. It’ll be different because they couldn’t possibly ever do the same thing.

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SirChenjins · 05/01/2024 14:35

Exactly. There will be some watered down, bizarre version of it that will no doubt involve something utterly bonkers like a free packet (recyclable natch) of shortbread and a Govt voucher for Pets at Home to all the bully owners.