Guilt Free Railing 20

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The curtain call.

May this thread be empty 😃

All good news welcome too, to go along with railing, guilt free

Railing against the conflicting info on Sky news. Vaccines are good, but their protection falls off after about 6months, which is why we’re all being infected just now, but don’t worry because the vaccines (which have worn off) are protecting us from being hospitalised when we do get infected.
I’ve had 3 vaccines but that’s it now, I’ve been so ill with each one . Happy to let my immune system have a go.

According to scientists previous infection is less good than vaccines at protecting you from the effects of this latest variant

It may be better at protecting people from the effects @becausetrampslikeus but not at actually catching the virus in 1st place. Otherwise we would have less cases.
Scotland has very high vaccination rates and highest covid cases 🤷🏼‍♀️

We're not at stage of deaths snd hospitalisations being a big concern anymore, thank goodness. But it's the effect on the recovery of the NHS that bothers me!

Statistically we are more likely to have higher numbers of hospital staff off isolating and higher numbers of people in hospital for something else who then test positive (which puts strain on the system).

I think there was a study recently that was showing natural immunity was better than being constantly jabbed

but I can rember where I saw it 🐝🤦‍♀️

A few people I know have it now but they are not hard it by it and getting on with life

@littlbrowndog There have been quite a few studies showing that hybrid immunity (natural topped by vaccine) is far better than either alone at protecting against new variants, for example as described here. It makes sense that natural immunity would have more breadth and therefore protect against new variants because it’s raised to the whole virus and not just the spike that the vaccines target. The vaccines have been thought to maybe give more strength, at least temporarily, perhaps through provoking a stronger immune response, but if that’s all you have, you’re making a strong reaction to something that’s increasingly irrelevant as the virus continues to mutate. I guess therefore it might make sense that the nations who had a lot of early infection, perhaps without people realising if it was mild (which it always has been in most low risk people despite the gas lighting) would be more protected even now when new variants cause new waves. We of course infamously we’re aiming for zero COVID early on. The test will be to see if England in particular gets to the levels Scotland reaches with this new wave. They didn’t quite match us in the March one when BA2 was prevalent. Most of us (in either nation) who had boosters around Christmas will find they have worn off now, so who has more residual immunity?

For delta definitely previous infection combined with vaccine offered very high protection from getting it again (it was about 95% + in most studies) for omicron I think it's a bit less but they are still studying it and yes the vaccine was based on the original variant which we are quite far removed from. So vaccines are doing the job of protection against serious illness still but have stopped giving protection against initial infection which they did with alpha and delta to quite a high degree ( more then flu vaccine etc).

I don't think vaccine has yet caught up I probably would get another dose but I was incredibly ill with Alpha and I don't wish to risk that roulette wheel if offered another jab! I csn see why many would go whats the point though!

Definitely think the zero covid strategy has backfired big time for Scotland!

We've had 5 members of staff off with Covid in the past few weeks - some for a second time and they have found it to be more severe second time around. They must still be testing whereas my tests went in the bin a long time ago

How do people know if it’s Covid? Have they stockpiled tests. Or are they buying them?
Maybe the cold I had the other week was actually it. I wasn’t that ill 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

How do people know if it’s Covid?

Some employers are still providing tests: I know some schools are, and I'm NHS and still on twice weekly LFTs and a weekly PCR. It's never ending!

I have a small stockpile. Mainly because someone in the family has been going through chemo.

But I think they have samples of people who test so they can keep an eye on the community levels.

🤞🏻

Railing about Ian Blackford caught on audio instructing MPs to support the MP who’s been giving unwanted sexual attention to a staffer at Westminster.

They are so sleazy, no better than the Tories.

No better than the Tories? I'd say worse as at least the Tories are happy to stab each other in the back sometimes. This lot are the lowest of the low. Although to be fair, someone recorded it, maybe there is a chink of light somewhere.

Schools were told not to give them out after April 17th. Our school office gave them all away as they weren't allowed to give them out after that date.

Ah that would also explain why the NHS were handing out boxes to people outside Tesco around that time.

Well the staff member who has been refusing to work with children (yes in a school!), wearing a mask and rubber gloves all the time has now caught Covid! I did have a little wry smile to myself when I heard the news.

@RaraRachael 😱 and oops

Has anyone else been noticing covid is starting to climb around them again? In our little school there’s about 5 staff members off right now and we are hearing of people’s relatives catching it all the time. Probably due to everything opening up again, no masks and vaccines wearing off, is it just like a bad cold now a week off work, rest and that’s it get on with it?

@sweetkitty I've not heard of much round here, but we all had it a couple of months ago. For me it was really nothing, wouldn’t have stopped me going about my usual activities.

Having said that, I wouldn’t test now

I know quite a few people with it just now. I don't think I would test. Unless going to see someone vulnerable. I'd just stay home if I was symptomatic (though I'm lucky in that I could quite easily).

I’m not testing I’m going on holiday next week for the first time in 3 years. I’ve never had it neither has anyone in my household. I really do not know why, I have cuddled an ill child all day who the next day tested positive, half out school had it, me I was in everyday.

Anyone else here that's NHS that can do an idiots guide to this for me? Or anyone?

www.parliament.scot/bills-and-laws/bills/national-care-service-scotland-bill/overview

So getting rid of local authorities and area health boards and having one single board across the whole of Scotland?! Could they then just move staff about to cover wherever is a deficit I.e Dumfries is short of staff so you'll need to go cover down there now as your contract is with Scotland not just current health board?

N.b I can be a catastrophiser, but wouldn't trust this lot at all!

practically how could they make NHS staff travel when that bears additional costs and childcare implications?

I'm hearing a lot of people have covid - WHY? Some people have better natural immunity or had no symptoms - there is 1 (!) child in DD's class who has never had covid over 2 years. DD has had it twice.

I remember when I had a bought of norovirus so bad that us and everyone who had visited in a 2 week period was horrendously I'm never going to stop vomiting sick, and my friend's DH was completely unscathed.

It’s weird @sweetkitty how some people escape it! Hope you get away ok and have a lovely time.

I don’t know about that @MichelleScarn i guess you’d be contracted to work in one area within the national organisation?

In principle I really think it makes sense to integrate them, as it seems they all use different systems and it makes information sharing unnecessarily difficult and time consuming. Plus doctors need to be approved in the individual health boards which seems unnecessary in such a small country.