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WouldBeGood · 20/01/2022 11:45

Will it ever end?

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WouldBeGood · 03/02/2022 13:57

The perfect solution 🤣

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RaraRachael · 03/02/2022 13:58

We are already freezing in schools due to having every door and window open in howling winter gales etc. Who on earth thought up this stupid idea about sawing off the bottoms of doors - and who thought it was such a good idea that it had to be put forward as a viable suggestion?

Of course the SG's irrational and overriding terror of Covid must be the most important thing.

Just when you think things can't get any more bonkers, they do Hmm

ResilienceWanker · 03/02/2022 14:02

Ha! Love those things... My gran used to have one and I spent hours wrapping myself up in it and needing to get it untangled from my hair. That'd be perfect for schools...

DH pointed out that there'd be doors still in schools in 50 years, long after covid is "just another virus", blowing a gale through, with everyone wondering what was going on in the heads of people who made them like that...

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 03/02/2022 14:03

"So teachers aren't apparently in a workplace and are magical covid people who aren't at risk."

I totally agree that the double standard is unacceptable @Scottishskifun, but I would argue that it's over the top for every business now. Without wishing to offend anyone, how many people are really at risk any more in the age of heavy vaccination and (which might be particularly relevant to schools!) widespread prior natural immunity to COVID? In schools, its certainly not the children, and apart from clinically extremely vulnerable people (who sadly will always have to be careful about all manner of viruses), not really the staff either. The teachers are perfectly at liberty to mix in each others houses, shops, restaurants, nightclubs and everywhere else, so why is a school suddenly a massive risk? Even Devi accepts that we need to get back to normal now that it's been 'defanged' and not going anywhere - if we're waiting for COVID to be safer we'll be waiting forever.

ElephantOfRisk · 03/02/2022 14:08

I think I am limiting myself more and more to small areas of MNet, it might just be me, but aside from Scotsnet and a few other areas/posts, I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that most people are just fucking thick. Now I am in no way citing myself as genius material, I genuinely thought i was about average and was in awe of a lot of people on here (still am but a much smaller pool). I'm not just talking about brains, just people with awareness and lively minds and I'm also not saying people with poor writing skills are thick either. I don't know, I just find find it like wading through human treacle looking for a spark of normalcy.

Mostly thinking it's just not for me anymore when I find myself just getting annoyed and angry and disliking the posters. Not for having a different view, just for not even knowing why they have that view. At least look into things, don't just accept what you've been told. Maybe it's always been like this and the covid stuff has just accelerated it?

WouldBeGood · 03/02/2022 14:11

I do agree @ElephantOfRisk. It’s like there’s an accepted mantra and noone questions it. Almost like religion.

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Scottishskifun · 03/02/2022 14:21

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us oh yes I do agree that it's over the top for all businesses but they are still made to do them with no signs of that dropping (in fact they put it under the umbrella of the health and safety at work act) at significant cost.

Today they said it was the LA responsibility to improve ventilation.......its just scape goating but what they force on business they aren't prepared to pay the cost themselves and are coming up with ridiculous cost cutting.
No way would cut the bottom of the door off be acceptable for a business risk assessment.

readsalotgirl63 · 03/02/2022 14:23

did anyone say why just opening the door wouldnt work ? This sounds like something from Monty Python

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 03/02/2022 14:29

@readsalotgirl63

did anyone say why just opening the door wouldnt work ? This sounds like something from Monty Python
It really does. I had to check it wasn't April 1st. Surely if it's that important opening the door would give a better level of ventilation than hacking a bit off the door, which might be no more than a trickle vent depending on how much they take off! If there was a fire you could at least then close said door and get some level of protection, and let's face it a fire going through the school is a bigger risk to the children than COVID. Mind you, as DH was saying earlier, so is hypothermia after a winter of having all the bloody windows open and sitting in coats. Even the teachers have had enough of 'being protected' and would rather be warm!
ElephantOfRisk · 03/02/2022 14:30

@readsalotgirl63

did anyone say why just opening the door wouldnt work ? This sounds like something from Monty Python
I think it was to do with noise? Presumably the covid germs can't limbo so opening at the bottom will "keep everyone safe" ?
ResilienceWanker · 03/02/2022 14:45

@ElephantOfRisk

I think I am limiting myself more and more to small areas of MNet, it might just be me, but aside from Scotsnet and a few other areas/posts, I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that most people are just fucking thick. Now I am in no way citing myself as genius material, I genuinely thought i was about average and was in awe of a lot of people on here (still am but a much smaller pool). I'm not just talking about brains, just people with awareness and lively minds and I'm also not saying people with poor writing skills are thick either. I don't know, I just find find it like wading through human treacle looking for a spark of normalcy.

Mostly thinking it's just not for me anymore when I find myself just getting annoyed and angry and disliking the posters. Not for having a different view, just for not even knowing why they have that view. At least look into things, don't just accept what you've been told. Maybe it's always been like this and the covid stuff has just accelerated it?

I know exactly what you mean. I hardly post other than here and on the tiers thread... Either other people have said what I would have said but better and more succinctly, or its just post after post of "cancel the cheque" or jumping on the op for whatever reason. I still spend far too long reading though Blush and do find lots of threads interesting or funny. But not enough to actually want to join in!

Have to say, the reason I started posting in scotsnet was because it felt like a welcome oasis away from the "ah, we're /you're so lucky to have Nicola looking after us/ you in Scotland" feeling elsewhere on MN and in society in general, which was, frankly, doing my head in. Partly pandemic, partly just post-brexit/ post indyref kind of feeling. I felt like I was going bonkers not feeling the love, even slightly. But lots of you don't feel it either, and that's kind of a relief! And even those of you who sometimes feel it aren't annoying about it and are prone to the odd WTF moment too, and that is also nice Wink.

ResilienceWanker · 03/02/2022 14:47

@readsalotgirl63

did anyone say why just opening the door wouldnt work ? This sounds like something from Monty Python
I assume its so you can't override the "protection" because you want to stay warm, or be able to hear what you're saying over the noise of 3B next door. You will be protected whether you want to be or not.
WouldBeGood · 03/02/2022 14:57

You WILL be protected 🤣

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WouldBeGood · 03/02/2022 14:59

Apparently her rant was that Douglas Ross’ line of questioning on the doors was “infantile” and the measures were “basic common sense”.

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Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 03/02/2022 15:03

Ah yes, "basic common sense" along with "obvious" tends to mean that actually they have no evidence it will help at all and are doing stuff off the hoof, usually without proper consultation or a thorough consideration of any downsides.

Lockdownbear · 03/02/2022 15:07

Wtf have I just read about doors!

Seriously, I'd bet every classroom door has a fire rating of some description and corridor doors having a higher rating.

She really is a liability, as much as I think Boris is daft, ho ho I'm having a jolly I don't think he'd deliberately endanger kids.

mapleleavesreturn · 03/02/2022 15:37

I got a call today asking if we need help given the first dc covid positive - that's 10 days in. Now what on earth is the point of that? If we did need help I think we'd have hit serious trouble a bit before the end of the isolating period!

2022HereWeCome · 03/02/2022 15:49

I wish they would just get rid of Test and Protect now. It really is a nonsense waste of money.

WouldBeGood · 03/02/2022 15:51

Chris Musson asked her about leaving doors open:

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ResilienceWanker · 03/02/2022 15:54

Grin They hadn't even thought of propping the door open as an alternative to cutting half of it off, had they! GrinConfused Well argued justifications there...

ElephantOfRisk · 03/02/2022 15:56

They whole testing thing is a nonsense now. They should stop all the "cases" reporting/comparison etc. Testing at this level is only ever a process required if you are going for an elimination strategy and we know that is not possible. Testing should now be used as a diagnostic tool or at most as a regime to protect vulnerable people as required.

I mean are we seriously meant to believe that we have a bigger infection rate than China and India?

It's time to get back to normality and just keep an eye on hospital numbers.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 03/02/2022 15:57

@ResilienceWanker

Grin They hadn't even thought of propping the door open as an alternative to cutting half of it off, had they! GrinConfused Well argued justifications there...
I know! You read these things and think they’re a spoof at first, but then you remember you live in the SNP’s Scotland.
WouldBeGood · 03/02/2022 15:57

Hear, hear @ElephantOfRisk!

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readsalotgirl63 · 03/02/2022 15:57

I feel a Victor Meldrew moment coming on ....

ElephantOfRisk · 03/02/2022 15:58

@WouldBeGood

Chris Musson asked her about leaving doors open:
Oh christ, that is both hilarious and soul destroying.