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WouldBeGood · 25/10/2021 12:53

😱 I think we will need this thread.. could it be the last?!

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Scottishskifun · 27/10/2021 13:10

I hope the budget increase to English NHS and subsequent increase in money to Scotland translates in the Scottish budget for the NHS up here!
I think the public have become a lot more aware of money being diverted away from it with the NHS crisis so can only hope it stops the SG from doing it in December!

ResilienceWanker · 27/10/2021 13:15

@WouldBeGood

But the fault here lies with the SG for making NHS Scotland unfit for purpose, and particularly not preparing over the past year
Exactly. It's hardly as if it's a surprise... Stop routine treatment for things, scare everyone away from hospitals for months, discourage people from seeing GPs/dentists etc (or make it impossible in some cases) then things that could have been treated earlier build up, and end up getting eventually seen when people can hold on no longer, in A&E Hmm

There was something on the BBC website yesterday about dental treatments declining by something like 75% last year. Obviously the same amount of treatment as usual would have been "needed" but as they focused on the worst ones, everyone else is still in the queue, along with this year's treatments, and there is an unmanageable backlog... Well, no shit... And they can't recruit more dentists or anything because last year's cohort weren't able to finish their training... It's not like it wasn't utterly foreseeable, but here we are not having seen a dentist for approaching 2 years. Some of those people's issues will have got worse, some may have not been diagnosed with eg mouth cancers in routine checkups, some children won't have had interventions to protect their adult teeth and so on. None currently "life threatening" (apart from the cancers maybe) but seriously affecting quality of life, for something that would and should be dealt with quickly and routinely - but with no real end in sight to when things will be normal again, and no way to get there. It's all pretty depressing.

Lockdownbear · 27/10/2021 13:21

Yip I splashed the cash at the dentist the other week, I wasn't prepared to wait a 9-10 months then throw in it could be longer.

I was chatting to someone whos kid has hearing issues, they are waiting for audiology appointment meanwhile school are on the mums case. Hmm next time I see that mum I'll suggest she gets the school to call them.

tiredoftiers · 27/10/2021 15:32

Think about Glasgow, 12 years ago there were A&E departments in Stobhill, Victoria, Western, Southern and Glasgow Royal. There is now the Royal and Queen Elizabeth. With minor injury units in the Victoria ACH and Stobhill.
Goodness knows how many inpatient beds were lost during these closures.
11 years ago there were no jobs for newly qualified nurses in Scotland, lots headed overseas or down south. The numbers being trained were reduced and this lasted a few years.
There are so many many factors impacting on the implosion of the NHS, covid is just the straw that has broken the camels back.

OnceUponAWhine · 27/10/2021 16:21

And yet the news reporting this pm that extra staff will be drafted in to A&E to cover the planned COP26 marches…hmm, where are those extra staff coming from then?

ElephantOfRisk · 27/10/2021 16:29

So, the hospitals are on their knees, kids are wearing masks in schools, vaccination passports, hospital and drs appointments cancelled etc etc etc. But essentially we can find staff to accommodate a conference and associated marches and protests. What the fuck is going on?

WouldBeGood · 27/10/2021 16:29

I wonder if they’ve told the staff…?

They tried to tell solicitors to do extra work over the weekends and stuff just two weeks ago🤔

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ResilienceWanker · 27/10/2021 16:48

That's a bit of a kick in the teeth, no? So there are enough staff somewhere, but not enough for us to be able to use A&E unless it's life threatening. Right then.

Have to say, I hadn't realised so many people were expected for the protests. So the conference itself is 25-30k, and the protests are >100k! Shock So even though the conference has all the testing/masks, the protestors won't. Outside, yes, but still closely packed and presumably shouting. And they will be staying with mates/ coming in on buses and so on. Can see where the worry on rates is coming from now...

Groovee · 27/10/2021 17:00

My friend's mum was admitted to A&E at the RIE and she said most of the waiting room was people coughing and spluttering. The issue seems to be GP's still not seeing people even if they have a negative PCR and saying they are viral.

WouldBeGood · 27/10/2021 17:15

100k! 😱 Jeez. Hadn’t realised that at all @ResilienceWanker

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ResilienceWanker · 27/10/2021 17:25

Exactly! It was this article. Still probably not that many compared to other things Glasgow has hosted, but a lot in a pandemic where we keep being threatened with more restrictions and, by the nature of protest, not especially controllable/ predictable.

WouldBeGood · 27/10/2021 20:30

Railing against the faithful moaning about Rishi Sunak giving billions to Scotland 🙄

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WouldBeGood · 27/10/2021 20:31

@ResilienceWanker it’s likely the protestors will be bams. Bloody nightmare

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Scottishskifun · 27/10/2021 20:52

@WouldBeGood

Railing against the faithful moaning about Rishi Sunak giving billions to Scotland 🙄
Ah yes it's terrible.... Plus funding directly for projects... But apparently that overstep the mark because it will go directly to the project and can't be moved elsewhere by SG!

I really don't understand why people have a issue with getting more money, Scotland would seriously struggle to raise the same amount alone themselves unless we are all paying double the amount of tax!

Lockdownbear · 27/10/2021 20:52

What's our odds of lots of rain for the duration of COP26 Hmm, check out the theory that protesters don't protest in the rain, they only come out in dry weather? 🤔

Scottishskifun · 27/10/2021 20:54

In good news DH has said that STV is reporting the rail strike is off! I hope it sticks!
Will help so many people all over Scotland!

Lockdownbear · 27/10/2021 20:55

Thats good news for the Rail workers

WouldBeGood · 27/10/2021 20:58

Great news on the trains!

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amazeandastonish · 27/10/2021 21:05

wondering what the latest is on the health secretary and that nursery?

Not really a rail, just curious

sartorius · 27/10/2021 21:12

@Lockdownbear

What's our odds of lots of rain for the duration of COP26 Hmm, check out the theory that protesters don't protest in the rain, they only come out in dry weather? 🤔
Well it's November in west of Scotland so it's more likely to be wet than dryHmm
OnceUponAWhine · 27/10/2021 22:04

@amazeandastonish

wondering what the latest is on the health secretary and that nursery?

Not really a rail, just curious

So many squirrels since that particular one.
Lockdownbear · 28/10/2021 13:27

Well it's November in west of Scotland so it's more likely to be wet than dryhmm

Makes me wonder if that's the logic for holding it in Glasgow. Dampen down the protesters? Smile
I'm not saying the climate isn't important but thousands of folk flying to Glasgow to take part plus the thousands wanting to protest isn't exactly environmentally friendly.

WouldBeGood · 28/10/2021 14:24

In great news, a poster on another thread has let us know that all charges against Marion Miller have been dropped 😊

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Lockdownbear · 28/10/2021 14:50

Remind me what was the Marion Miller thing about?
I've seen her name mentioned but don't get what it's about.

WouldBeGood · 28/10/2021 15:09

It was the ordinary woman charged with hate crimes for tweets about sex not gender etc.

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