Guilt Free Railing 13

[WouldBeGood]

Unlucky for some.. maybe lucky for us?

I remember reading something about children being less likely than adults to transmit Covid - something to do with their lung capacities not being large enough. There's a study in Iceland that suggested children under 15 were half as likely to transmit covid:

www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/we-now-know-how-much-children-spread-coronavirus

So continuing to force kids to wear face masks in school when our numbers are declining seems excessive.

@ssd

I really dont see how teachers are at the same risk as others. They've been at much more risk than me working in a shop with plastic screens at the tills and masks everywhere. I dont believe that report.

The studies are showing that even with the delta variant that children are infectious for a much shorter time period and their immune systems clear the infection quicker especially in young children but same extent seen for over 12s. It's also why some children present with things like covid toes but never actually test positive.

So yes this would put teachers at the same risk level as general population as despite the time spent in a classroom with ventilation the infectious period time is reduced in children and therefore no greater risk as viral load isn't greater.

That's an interesting study from Iceland. Initially it was said little kids didn't transmit covid. But that study is looking at kids up to 15.

By the age of 15 most girls will be hitting their adult height, and most 15 year old boys will be bigger than their mum although they might still be growing.

Well, i would have thought being in a classroom with poor ventilation all day mixing with loads of kids would put you at higher risk of catching it.
Which i dont actually think the survey was about, i think it was about hospitalisations, which im guessing aren't too high as most teachers i know are under 50.

But what do i know fuck all usually

@WouldBeGood

I don’t know why you wouldn’t believe it 🤷🏻‍♀️

Cos I'm a contrary bugger

@ssd

Well, i would have thought being in a classroom with poor ventilation all day mixing with loads of kids would put you at higher risk of catching it. Which i dont actually think the survey was about, i think it was about hospitalisations, which im guessing aren't too high as most teachers i know are under 50.

But what do i know fuck all usually

It does put you at risk but due to less infectious period and lower transmission levels as the studies are showing for children it will average out to the same risk as coming into contact regularly with adults.

It's a rough day at work and I'm easily annoyed, so having a mini-rail about the SNP's latest manufactured grievance about the UK. Shortly before the election they passed two bills which they knew were outwith the extent of their powers and would provoke a response from Westminster - they were warned of such and refused to consider amendments which would have allowed the bills to pass without over stepping their remit. One of these bills concerned the rights of children. Every MSP from every party (even the Tories) supported the principle, but because it was constructed in such a way as to be illegal (again, they knew this) it has been ruled null by the supreme court and will need to be amended. Andy Wightman who put forward the bill says that this can be fixed with minor changes and expects a lot of 'nonsense' to be spoken about it. But the SNP used the challenge as emotive anti-Westminster fodder before the election ('Tories hate children etc. etc.), and lo and behold when the illegal legislation is ruled as such, the first thing Swinney does is whine about 'powers'. I'm sure it will pass with the necessary amendments and make it into law when fixed as no-one opposes it (not even the Tories), although this is 6 months later than it could have been had the SNP listened to the warnings at the time. It's not stopping the hard of thinking on Twitter from banging on about how Scotland needs to rid itself of the child-hating UK though (despite no-one in the UK being opposed to the principle, they just insisted it be legal).

@Lockdownbear

What the heck is a breathable pouch? Does that mean a hoodie pocket? 🤔

2 of my friends phoned the care inspectorate for clarification and suggesting they either provide them to staff or to link so they could buy them.

The guidance then quickly changed as apparently they were inundated with calls about it.

We were looking at organza type bags.

It's the massive chip on the shoulder mentality @Y0uCann0tBeSer10us.

Why work on stuff in your control and work with others to achieve common goals when you can shove a stick in the spokes and blame everyone else when you fall of your bike?

The problem is that a significant amount of people in the country walk about thinking like this and blaming everything on Boris/The Tories/The English.

A good bag to keep masks in for most of the population would be the bin.

@ElephantOfRisk

A good bag to keep masks in for most of the population would be the bin.

This!

@sdd 🤣 fair enough

Surely if scot gov's priority was children @Y0uCann0tBeSer10us they'd have taken care not too draft legislation that contravened the Scotland act - so as usual, kids aren't more important than the political game. Or are they simply terrible at legislation? After the hate crime bill and other failures it's 6 of one...

Apparently they got pelters from the Supreme Court about drafting legislation which was obviously outwith their powers.

Embarrassing and more money thrown away on court expenses.

All to pay lip service to being interested in the rights of chijdren

Yes, apparently the judgement makes reference to them doing it deliberately or something. It was a not so subtle plan to manipulate the UK government into challenging obviously illegal legislation so that they could play the victim —again—. Children’s rights were used as an extra emotive hook for when the inevitable challenge arrived, to try and make Westminster out to be child hating monsters. But no, they don’t actually give a shit about children or they’d have done it properly first time round.

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us completely agree and more shamefully conducted 10 months+ into a pandemic knowing full well it would go to court.

So how much tax payers money was wasted on this court case which they knew they were unlikely to win which could have been spent on education recovery, NHS or social care..... 🙄

Instructing barristers and court costs is not exactly cheap!
Such as waste of money all for point scoring!

@ElephantOfRisk

A good bag to keep masks in for most of the population would be the bin.

This 100%

The only thing they really care about Children is influencing them into becoming Braveheart, flag waving, nationalist and giving them the vote before they really understand politics and what separation would really mean.

So true. Sick to the back teeth of the petty game playing, wasting money for their "cause".

Anyway I'm off south of the Border tomorrow to enjoy a week of no masks and no making appointments to do everything, socially distanced.

I am taking some heart this morning to see that the papers haven't fallen in line and are generally unfavourable of this latest stunt. I think it helps that the court ruling itself indicates that the whole thing was cynically engineered to pick a fight with Westminster. As icing on the cake, several are also reporting that the precedent set by this stunt has made it very unlikely that any referendum would be ruled legal without Westminster's explicit consent, as the power clearly lies with them. Westminster isn't going to agree any time soon, and I doubt it'll cause mass outrage up here, because they've been saying 'No' since 2017 and it hasn't made a difference to support, no matter how many 'cast iron mandates' the SNP claim to have. Even Angus McNeil is saying it's very bad news for Sturgeon's chances. (Then again, if you were cynical, you could say that Sturgeon is only making noise about Indyref2 to appease the core vote and doesn't actually want it...)

From the Dean of the Faculty of Advocates -

twitter.com/RoddyQC/status/1445754845504311312

I think the lady think the SNP wants is independence- can you imagine the incompetence exposed without WM to blame?!

Last thing!! Not lady think. There will be none of that in the SNP.

Once again, can't agree with you more youcannot

When you read the comments under Roddy's tweet, there are still folk who think that this is more reason for independence (sigh).

DH got into the beginning of an argument with a pro independence relative who was spouting the shite that they are fed through these groups but was caught out for never even having read the white paper. I mean what moron buys into this stuff into the point of voting and campaigning for it without actually reading the paper?

Sadly, plenty of morons out there. See also those that voted SNP in this year to ‘say thank you to Nicola for seeing us safely through the pandemic’
We’ve got years of this stuff ahead, just so depressing and frustrating for so many of us.