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Thread 7 - No pitch forks or Pom Poms - Scottish political shenanigans

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TheShadowyFeminist · 06/04/2021 15:46

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RedactedTaeFeck · 27/04/2021 13:13

Money allocated for the CV support has been kept aside for other purposes, money allocated for the NHS has been kept aside for other purposes and that's not the first time that has been done.

As an aside, I've logged out of very system I have MN on and logged back in, they all say the same user name for now. Hopefully this resolves any issues and any confusion.

happygolurkey · 27/04/2021 13:15
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WouldBeGood · 27/04/2021 13:32

@readsalotgirl63 I hadn’t realised they couldn’t open properly- that’s just ridiculous. I really hope they are successful on the challenge.

CirclesWithinCircles · 27/04/2021 13:54

P&J hopefully not behind a paywall for the first 10 articles:

www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/3073096/i-risk-making-my-children-homeless-scottish-government-accused-of-sexist-discrimination-over-support-for-beauty-businesses/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Press%20and%20Journal%20-%20Coronavirus%202021-04-27&utm_term=Press%20and%20Journal%20-%20Newsletter

"“It just seems bizarre to me why they would single out a predominately female-led sector dominated by small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs), many of which have been founded and grown by a female founder, like Pure.

“When I started the business in 2002, I had to go to 10 banks before one of them would loan me the money to start, and I had to agree to have a second charge put on my family home to secure the loan, which of course meant that if Pure at any point fails, I risk making my children homeless.

“It is sadly disappointing to know that in the 19 years since, not a lot seems to have changed and it is still just as hard for SME’s and in particular females, to access funding to start and grow their business.

“This is why the unfathomable decision to block funding makes no sense at all – these grants are a lifeline for our industry to survive and thrive.”

The difference in funding regime is estimated to affect around 3,750 businesses, employing nearly 30,000 – “the vast majority being women,” she said.

“Close contact services is the only business sector in Scotland that will not receive the same level of restart grants as in England and singling out one sector, particularly one dominated by women owners and operators is sexist discrimination.

“There can be no justification given that is acceptable.”

There are three tiers of support in England, calculated using the rateable value of properties, but a flat rate of £6,000 in Scotland for the close contact sector – despite equivalent funding being made available by Westminster.

It means small firms are £2,000 down on English counterparts, medium-sized premises will receive half of the £12,000 on offer down south and the top level, rated at £51,000 or more, are £12,000 down on the £18,000 they would receive elsewhere."

WouldBeGood · 27/04/2021 14:03

Have the SG explained why they’re doing this?

OhBuggerandArse · 27/04/2021 14:31

Scottish Women's Convention hustings tonight: registration closes at 3pm.

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-scottish-womens-convention-hustings-tickets-150695940615?fbclid=IwAR2aafxSlOftv6L3H4Cg7arNgajqX23jj5ydL7JrSvPUH5R-FafO9qCEVJY

happygolurkey · 27/04/2021 14:36

This was the reason given at the end of the above article.

“Leisure and hospitality businesses were subject to more severe restrictions as many were not able to open in Levels 2-4 so have been closed since October 2020 or earlier.

“Non-essential retailers, including close contact services, are only required to close when Level 4 restrictions are in place.”

Scottishskifun · 27/04/2021 14:40

@happygolurkey

Yes it was on the Campaign on BBC 1 last night its available on I player. ah right, cheers Scottishskifun. I'll check that out.
Sorry I tried to find the specific element within it but I get tired with covid fatigue.

Basic jist was financial analysis was the spending stated especially for NHS spending stated in the big 3 parties actually couldn't be paid for with taxes without big rises or a squeeze to other areas. None of the parties have stated tax rises.
SNP and Conservatives were greater as it was for full term where Labour is til 2022.

@forfucksakenett if you want to argue why not pop onto AIBU or something. Some of us actually want to discuss what threads are supposed to be about.

happygolurkey · 27/04/2021 15:07

thanks Scottishskifun

yeh, they touched on some of this at that Question Time leaders' debate last week - but would be good to get a bit more depth. all the parties seem to be good at coming up with promises but not so good at saying how they'll fund them!!

I'll look that up tonight and watch. Another hour of my life I'll never get back no doubt Wink Grin

I get tired with covid fatigue. oh no..hope you're ok. take care

Scottishskifun · 27/04/2021 15:18

@happygolurkey I can't watch QT I get too annoyed but found the campaign pretty balanced and interesting it's a balance of quite a few things with different guests on it.

Thanks I'm on week 5 just unlucky to get it badly the fatigue is a real bitch though definitely avoid if possible! Our cases came through DS nursery so not much avoidance possible unfortunately!

happygolurkey · 27/04/2021 15:24

I'm the same with QT. drives me mental. was the first time I'd watched it in ages but i thought it was ok, actually. A lot better than the previous two leader so called 'debates'.
The Campaign sounds interesting, thanks for the heads up..
Oh that's horrible about the fatigue..get well soon Flowers

forfucksakenett · 27/04/2021 15:46

@Scottishskifun I'm fine here thanks.

Bytheloch · 27/04/2021 16:14

Channel 4 News leaders special tonight at 7pm.

Cismyfatarse · 27/04/2021 18:48

I have voted! My first ever by post.

I did everything I could to support my priorities which are keeping the Union and voting for whoever does not want to let men into women's spaces.

Plus, is not a complete lunatic (there were a lot of 'fringe' options on the very long list ballot.

annabelindajane · 27/04/2021 19:17

@Cismyfatarse

I have voted! My first ever by post.

I did everything I could to support my priorities which are keeping the Union and voting for whoever does not want to let men into women's spaces.

Plus, is not a complete lunatic (there were a lot of 'fringe' options on the very long list ballot.

Me too , as above . Was surprised at how many parties there were .

Loved “Abolish The Scottish Parliament Party’- save £100,000,000 yearly.

They would have got my vote if things weren’t quite so serious.😂 .😂

Scottishskifun · 27/04/2021 19:18

It's the Institute of fiscal studies finally found it sorry brain fog!

www.ifs.org.uk/scottish-election

Scottishskifun · 27/04/2021 19:22

😂 I managed less than 10 minutes of the channel 4 leaders before going of god they are just bickering like children!

Well done on those who voted already!

WouldBeGood · 27/04/2021 21:49

I’ve been out !

Was the debate awful?

Scottishskifun · 27/04/2021 22:18

@WouldBeGood

I’ve been out !

Was the debate awful?

It made a trump debate look civilised!

Constant interrupting, talking over, eye rolls and started with a question about sleeze factor of politics..... 🙄

Not a debate reminded me more of squabbling teenagers!

WouldBeGood · 27/04/2021 22:20

Oh, lord, how depressing!

Thanks for that @Scottishskifun - I won’t seek it out online 😂

annabelindajane · 28/04/2021 13:29

Had to switch off after 10 minutes . Much better when they have to take questions from the public. The first one had public on zoom and was far more interesting.

Bytheloch · 28/04/2021 16:16

Interesting to hear that SNP spent £4.7m chauffeuring official documents around Scotland...according to a news source today. Perhaps that’s what some of the missing money allocated for CV was spent on?

It’s certainly more of our money being spent than a few rolls of fancy wallpaper🧐

forfucksakenett · 28/04/2021 16:28

The government car service (all the government cars, some of which are used to deliver documents) costs approximately £900,000 per year.

The figure you quote is for the last 4 and a half years I believe.

A ridiculous amount I agree but not explicitly as suggested to ferry documents about.

Scottishskifun · 28/04/2021 16:31

@Bytheloch

Interesting to hear that SNP spent £4.7m chauffeuring official documents around Scotland...according to a news source today. Perhaps that’s what some of the missing money allocated for CV was spent on?

It’s certainly more of our money being spent than a few rolls of fancy wallpaper🧐

WTF??!!! 4.7million! 😠

Yet we are told that long covid clinics aren't needed and there isn't spare cash!
What a joke have they not heard of encryption?!

WouldBeGood · 28/04/2021 16:52

That’s absolutely outrageous.

£900,000 in the past year!! Wtf, they’re supposed to have been working from home.

I work in a field in which we have to upload and download documents to and from a secure website. No paper. What are they doing with the cars/documents?

Can’t they drive themselves if need be?

This stuff makes my blood boil.

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