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The Fall Out Continues - thread 6

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TheShadowyFeminist · 26/03/2021 13:32

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sessell · 03/04/2021 19:05

Private Eye isn't available online. Have tried to upload a copy of the article here as it's worth reading in full.

The Fall Out Continues - thread 6
StatisticallyChallenged · 03/04/2021 21:01

@LizzieMacQueen

I just had a quick scan of the accounts. They pay a lot to have them audited so you'd think they'd be robust enough.

The funds might be in other assets/ 'prepayments & accrued income' = £879,488 ?

The prepayments and accrued income is included in the current assets - which are smaller than the current liabilities.

When was this "fighting fund" raised? Was it 2019? (the 2019 donations received are about £580k higher than 2018 which would make sense if it was 2019)

The prepayments and accrued income has also not changed significantly from 2018 which also makes me think it's not in there.

WouldBeGood · 03/04/2021 21:04

It was 2019 I believe

reprehensibleme · 03/04/2021 21:50

I remember when Wings was considered the fount of all knowledge and truth by independence supporters during the referendum. My how things have changed..........

Coquohvan · 03/04/2021 22:05

@reprehensibleme

I remember when Wings was considered the fount of all knowledge and truth by independence supporters during the referendum. My how things have changed..........
Yes funny that. Nice to see the chuckle brothers are back with different monicas.
GreenlandTheMovie · 03/04/2021 22:20

@reprehensibleme

I remember when Wings was considered the fount of all knowledge and truth by independence supporters during the referendum. My how things have changed..........
Oh yes, the fan fiction site, beloved of randoms on Facebook with half an 'o' level in Art, beseeching everyone to read its noteworthy prose...
TheShadowyFeminist · 03/04/2021 22:25

Another fraud allegation, this time by SNP against the ex equalities convener who resigned & is now standing in Alba seat. She denies it according to front page.

Only got front page so far so not sure of the details. Link to tweet

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TheShadowyFeminist · 03/04/2021 22:29

Time for this meme again

The Fall Out Continues - thread 6
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sessell · 03/04/2021 23:40

SNP finances fraud story now in the Daily Express. Confirms police are investigating. www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1418676/snp-news-nicola-sturgeon-scottish-government-holyrood-latest/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Happinessisawarmcervix · 04/04/2021 02:15

@TheShadowyFeminist

Another fraud allegation, this time by SNP against the ex equalities convener who resigned & is now standing in Alba seat. She denies it according to front page.

Only got front page so far so not sure of the details. Link to tweet

Timing seems...suspicious. Surely she wouldn’t have been allowed on the finances committee if there was any hint of impropriety?
Happinessisawarmcervix · 04/04/2021 02:20

D’oh. Equalities not finance.

Happinessisawarmcervix · 04/04/2021 02:29

I shall attempt to redeem myself with this new poll - Alba projected to win 6 seats, says Panelbase for The Times.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nationalists-on-course-to-win-supermajority-g05l8c0st

SempreSuiGeneris · 04/04/2021 07:58

Have you got a figures breakdown for the poll?

6 seats implies 7% of total vote share in 6 of 8 regions (or 14% of SNP vote). There are at least 2 regions where any Alba seats would come from SNP first.
Also projecting Greens adding 2 seats (would need further List transfers from SNP) and SNP putting on 2 seats (presume constituency wins in W Scotland and / or Lothian with no compensating losses in NE)?

SempreSuiGeneris · 04/04/2021 08:16

Just done some digging. This is the full breakdown:
List:
SNP ~ 39% (-3)
Con ~ 21% (-1)
Lab ~ 17% (-2)
Grn ~ 8% (+2)
Alba ~ 6% (+6)
LD ~ 5% (-2)
AFU ~ 4% (+4)

Constituency:
SNP ~ 49% (+2)
Con ~ 22% (-1)
Lab ~ 20% (nc)
LD ~ 6% (-1)
Grn ~ 2% (nc)

Apparently small sample size. Does show the impact of Alba shift but the projections from it look like a pro Indy narrative optimistic punt assuming all the extra votes go in the correct places. Also shows an A4U protest transfer in frustration at Labour / Conservatives could end up diluting rather than augmenting the anti-Indy seat share. Only really works in South Scotland where SNP still has 3 List seats.

fandabbydoozy · 04/04/2021 08:36

I think that poll is a pile of pish. As you say small sample number. I can't see the Greens gaining seats or AFU gaining seats.

forfucksakenett · 04/04/2021 08:44

[quote sessell]SNP finances fraud story now in the Daily Express. Confirms police are investigating. www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1418676/snp-news-nicola-sturgeon-scottish-government-holyrood-latest/amp?__twitter_impression=true[/quote]
The Express? Have you seen the drivel they've been posting for at least the last year?

Tom Gordon from the Herald accusing Wings today of pretty much making it all up on Twitter.

Happinessisawarmcervix · 04/04/2021 08:57

The £600,000 story is also in the Record.

Happinessisawarmcervix · 04/04/2021 08:58

And in The Times.

forfucksakenett · 04/04/2021 09:02

Yes but it's just repetition of exactly the same information. Nobody has anything new and it's all very carefully worded.

It doesn't matter how many outlets report the same rumour.

Tom Gordon's tweets are very interesting.

Happinessisawarmcervix · 04/04/2021 09:04

A cynical person would suggest that the allegations against Anderson are an attempt to muddy the search results if you google “SNP fraud”, much as Boris’s sudden interest in making model buses booted the “£350m for the NHS” bus pledge off the top page of search results for “Boris bus”

Happinessisawarmcervix · 04/04/2021 09:15

It’s another tone-deaf response from the SNP though - in the Record they say the party will answer questions “from any appropriate authority” - but not from the three people elected to the finance committee by the membership.

Again, all adds up to a party that has become over-mighty and doesn’t accept scrutiny.

SempreSuiGeneris · 04/04/2021 09:24

Again, all adds up to a party that has become over-mighty and doesn’t accept scrutiny.

Absolutely.

And there was me being all diplomatic fandabbydoozy Grin

SempreSuiGeneris · 04/04/2021 09:38

"Are SNP staff receiving IOUs rather than salary or has the overdraft been increased, just asking the question, which is what journalists should be doing" via twitter.

This is the point re the £600k. The cash is not in the bank so it is already, by definition, spent.

SempreSuiGeneris · 04/04/2021 09:42

And now we have another "wee forgotten" meeting.
Undeclared cash for planning permission bung to the SNP apparently.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/anger-650m-contract-tycoon-snp-23849401

Does everyone else know that the 2014 Indy campaign was funded in large part by a single £1m+ donation from a Lottery winner?