Ding Ding Ding! Round 5 Salmond and Sturgeon

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Would the case he's pursuing now include all papers from the committee process too? I'm just wondering if all the contact/discussions that's taken place throughout the committee process would now fall under the remit of this? Cos that would've fascinating!

That would be super juicy!

@TheShadowyFeminist

Would the case he's pursuing now include all papers from the committee process too? I'm just wondering if all the contact/discussions that's taken place throughout the committee process would now fall under the remit of this? Cos that would've fascinating!

If it's been published by the committee it's fair game. I said before that I thought that was his motive in pushing for the committee to get evidence that he either didn't have or couldn't use

Yup, he's got far more in his possession than we know about & has probably cross referenced everything that's been submitted and said at the committee. I suspect he's got something dynamite that he's been itching to use & yes I think he has used the committee process to 'smoke out' everything that he could.

And in fairness I can't think of a more deserving person than Evans to be on the receiving end of this 😁

I wonder if it'll include communication between Scotgov & RCS & complainants too? Someone has mentioned that's a possibility too. Crikey, there's a veritable smorgasbord of information he could be going after. There was me thinking that was it. 😳

Yes it seems like this could all go on for some time yet.

@ATieLikeRichardGere

Yes it seems like this could all go on for some time yet.

I'm a bit knackered still from this lot 😂 I'll give it a break for the upcoming election 😬

Better get some rest now while I can!

@TheShadowyFeminist

Yup, he's got far more in his possession than we know about & has probably cross referenced everything that's been submitted and said at the committee. I suspect he's got something dynamite that he's been itching to use & yes I think he has used the committee process to 'smoke out' everything that he could.

And in fairness I can't think of a more deserving person than Evans to be on the receiving end of this 😁

For a thread that was so very concerned about the women in this case, and I agree that they absolutely have been let down, the barely concealed glee with which some posters have in hopes that AS has something up his sleeve is a bit off tbh.

The suggestion that he used this committee as part of his master plan is a little bit Hollywood is it not? He's an egomaniac. This post somehow presents that as if it's a good thing. It's a bit grubby. It's not, or it shouldn't be, the AS show.

You seem to have some comprehension issues. The thread was about the various investigations into the handling of harassment complaints. I'm absolutely delighted that Lesley Evans will face some pushback on her atrocious behaviour throughout the whole investigation/JR/committee. Sturgeon refusing to do anything and give her her 'full support' after everything she's said/done is nothing short of outrageous.

If my or anyone else's thoughts on this offend you, feel free to avert your delicate eyes.

Leslie Evans is a woman, but she's not one of the complainants (at least as far as I know!!!). She's an incompetent civil servant.

It was actually discussed at his evidence session that evidence he had due to the criminal trial couldn't be used in any other legal action - the Rangers administrators case was discussed - and at the time it occured to me (and I posted here I think) that it would potentially be beneficial for him if more evidence was obtained by the committee as he could then use it if he wanted to take legal action.

That's hardly some Holywood master plan, it's just logical. He's pissed off and claims he's been set up but his ability to do anything about it is limited because he can't use the info he (claims he) has. So getting as much as possible released via the committee would suit him just fine.

I would expect he has had numerous discussions with his lawyers about the potential for further legal action.

at the time it occured to me (and I posted here I think) that it would potentially be beneficial for him if more evidence was obtained by the committee as he could then use it if he wanted to take legal action.

I do recall you said this way back.

You seem to have some comprehension issues. The thread was about the various investigations into the handling of harassment complaints.

your pomposity never ceases to amaze TheShadowyFeminist
No-one other than you and your pals can possibly have any understanding of this issue, can they?

yes, some may call Salmond's move 'logical', some may call it 'cynical'.

And agree, the 'pass the popcorn' 'really enjoying this' 'oh that'll be juicy' etc etc here is pretty stomach churning

Pompous? Moi?

SNP ra-ra threads are thataway--->

If this discussion offends you, do avert those sensitive eyes. Wouldn't want you to feel unsafe or anything.

@StatisticallyChallenged

The one she's supposedly bought from a famous mammy?

I would welcome a slight bit of additional guidance on this one!

My comprehension is fine. Only a few pages ago it was all about the poor women. Oh these women have been so let down. I think what everyone forgets is the women at the heart of this.

And yet here we are. Celebrating the accused as a a master of logic and control.

It's a real shame because there were so many posters on here who seemed so knowledgeable and so articulate. It was a compelling read. As it has gone on, and increasingly not gone in the direction most posters had hoped, it has turned bitter and angry.

Time to get that grey 🪨 out again.

If you feel you need to do that then that's absolutely fine 🤷🏻‍♀️ surely you see the irony though? This thread shows how easy it is to get caught up in something and for that moral high ground to be thrown out the window.

I did not celebrate Salmond as a master of logic and control - I said it was logical that he might be wanting the committee to get info.

I suppose it depends on which women we are talking about and who failed them?

It was scotgov that threw the initial complainants into the arena and subsequently failed them and probably leaked the name and Salmond who tried to stop the name being released (so I understand). We know at least one (and maybe all) of the other women was/were lying.

They way it's been dealt with by scotgov will surely put other people off reporting anything so more women failed.

And then we have the women at the heart of causing all this being protected. (and the men).

If no-one else is able to hold those people to account other than AS then I am glad that he is trying to do so, whatever his motivations.

yes, some may call Salmond's move 'logical', some may call it 'cynical'.

Must the two be mutually exclusive?

Surely an action can be both - a logical step with a cynical motive?

@RedactedTaeFeck

I suppose it depends on which women we are talking about and who failed them?

It was scotgov that threw the initial complainants into the arena and subsequently failed them and probably leaked the name and Salmond who tried to stop the name being released (so I understand). We know at least one (and maybe all) of the other women was/were lying.

They way it's been dealt with by scotgov will surely put other people off reporting anything so more women failed.

And then we have the women at the heart of causing all this being protected. (and the men).

If no-one else is able to hold those people to account other than AS then I am glad that he is trying to do so, whatever his motivations.

There's also the evidence given by one of the initial two complainers who stated that they were totally abandoned by the SG after the judicial review.

The SG has no highground here on caring for the women at the centre of this.

The SG has no highground here on caring for the women at the centre of this.

When you've got the likes of Patrick Harvie also pulling that move, it gets a bit tiresome listening to this as though it's genuinely expressed. It's clearly not.

Agree, it's a bandwagon and attempt to claim the moral high ground.

Election coming up and maybe they've started to realise that biological women are about 50% of the population and the trans community is about 0.5% and they've fucked it up.

Really someone with some moral high ground should have asked the police to investigate the Daily Record leak before now. It’s kind of ridiculous that AS is the one left to do that.