Salmond v Sturgeon round 4. What next?

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New thread.

I too think it looks even worse

I’m hoping the shit hits the fan with this. The Tories have so much dirt on them, they could go right for the jugular on so many things and they have the money to really publicise it. They may be being strategic about when they do so for maximum impact at the polls- maybe that’s why the press have been fairly silent so far...

Twitter is now full of “but Davies and Salmond are friends so he’s probably lying for him” and “it’s all a Tory plot”.

Sky News reporting this tonight.

Good. Sky have been quite strong on this.

There's also the suggestion that the Scottish civil service were effectively 'rouge' with no real oversight from the UK civil service.

Scottish civil service and UK civil service are two entirely separate entities.

You have some UK civil service offices in Scotland including things like HMRC departments, international office, pensions etc but these are separate from Scottish govt civil service.

Scottish civil service report to Edinburgh, UK civil service report to Westminster.

Oh my word just watched that Davies speech in parliament

Damming

parliamentlive.tv/event/index/67a700ab-4500-4fdb-802b-f2e06854f6e1?in=19:25:54&out=00:00:00

Evans’ position is an odd one though, I think she’s technically a UK civil servant.

He just totally dammed Peter murrel who said his text messages were taken out out of context has he has seen all of them

Ffs this is our country.

What the heck is going on here

On bbc 1 news now

Now on BBC news too. Sarah Smith.

DD speech references the Scottish civil service sought guidance from the U.K. civil service head of propriety & ethics in Whitehall & never responded to expressed discomfort with the retrospective element of the process being developed. Presumably the Scottish civil service are subject to the same proprietary & ethical code as the U.K. as a whole? If they aren't, why seek feedback? If they are, how were they able to ignore concerns raised? I don't know how the various structures fall into place but I know Evans regularly flies to London & I'd always assumed that was where her hierarchy structure required her attendance because there was an element of oversight. If that's wrong, fair enough.

Jeez

Its a great speech. He is right. The only way to fix this is to change the Scotland Act. Separate the powers, and write the Scottish constitution!

@Scottishskifun

There's also the suggestion that the Scottish civil service were effectively 'rouge' with no real oversight from the UK civil service.

Scottish civil service and UK civil service are two entirely separate entities.

You have some UK civil service offices in Scotland including things like HMRC departments, international office, pensions etc but these are separate from Scottish govt civil service.

Scottish civil service report to Edinburgh, UK civil service report to Westminster.

Yes. UK civil servants and Scottish civil servants serve different masters.

Great piece here

www.holyrood.com/news/view,sturgeon-chief-of-staff-interfered-in-salmond-harassment-investigation

@LexMitior 😂 mostly civil servants just do their jobs and very few have direct contact with "the masters" very few civil servants are involved in the private office and only very senior civil servants deal directly with ministers.
The UK civil service is wide and vast everything from pensions and jobs to science and even space! Scottish civil service is everything from fish to environment and food safety etc.

Why can’t we see the messages

If there is nothing wrong with them

Police Scotland have said they are true messages.

Why can’t we see them yet a Tory mp can

@littlbrowndog he’s using parliamentary privilege

They were leaked to him I think he said

Yes passed to him by a whistle blower. Wonder who it is!

Yes that was the wording, thank you

Same person who leaked to Macaskill? And didn't Murray mention someone on the fringes of Sturgeon's inner circle who was talking (can't remember if it was to him or Salmond)

I also had a suspicion from his testimony that Salmond had either seen or had at least been given a solidarity summary of the legal advice the SG received too.

At least one someone isn’t happy and is leaking. Could be multiples of course

Solid, not solidarity. Bloody phone.