Tiers until the end of time

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Quickly putting this up as last thread is full

They weren’t talking S1-3 back until after Easter and then maybe

That makes sense on one hand @Cismyfatarse but if you have whole classes in then pupils can't social distance, a full class of S5 pupils can't keep 2m from each other.

But if you have half a class in at a time who teaches the other half who are at home?

Headache for schools ...

In my school we would spread across 2 rooms with kids half in front of me, half in a room normally used by other pupils for that lesson. The second room would be supervised by someone who is either teaching a class who are at home, or free, or support staff.

We would make it work so we could see kids. It also makes teaching easier, even though you might have to move between rooms. In the second room I would be on their screen and might swap at times so they all got me live.

Not ideal but much, much better for the kids in school and no worse for those at home.

Oh god the S1-S3s have to go back in some capacity after Easter, they just have to.

DS in S3 has lost most motivation, cheats in tests using google translate and his notes and the worst bit is I actually don't even think it's a bad thing as who knows if this year's scores are going to be used for next years grading.

I'm just hoping that the numbers will drop so much that they will go to 1.5m or 1m distancing to allow more pupils in.

God I'm so confused I thought you were only supposed to meet another outside for exercise rather than sitting in the garden.

I asked DH (who does covid response) and he even said dunno I've lost track of all the rule changes between different lock down and tier system..... He does this for businesses whats the hope for the rest of us trying (well mostly) to follow the rules!

Yes no garden meetings, public places for exercise only isn't it?

Oh god the S1-S3s have to go back in some capacity after Easter, they just have to.

I think so too.
How can S2 seriously choose options based on 2 terms in 1st year and 1 in 2nd year. They need to get those kids back in school. The economy needs to start opening up. Yet they can't open anything until schools are fully open, furlough ends at the end of April.

@dancemom

Yes no garden meetings, public places for exercise only isn't it?

I think so

@WouldBeGood

Are you allowed to meet in your garden now? I didn’t think so.

@dancemom it’s shaping up to be a giant shambles

You can only meet people from another household outdoors and in indoor public spaces for certain reasons, such as for work, to join your extended household, for sport, exercise, or to provide care and support for a vulnerable person. This can include providing emotional support for someone whose wellbeing is at risk, including for those who are isolated because of disability or a caring situation.

Thanks @flippertygibbit I thought that

You can only meet people from another household outdoors and in indoor public spaces for certain reasons, such as for work, to join your extended household, for sport, exercise, or to provide care and support for a vulnerable person. This can include providing emotional support for someone whose wellbeing is at risk, including for those who are isolated because of disability or a caring situation. Read Coronavirus (COVID-19): advice for unpaid carers

A maximum of 2 people, aged 12 and over, can meet outdoors for a permitted purpose, if they are not from the same household.

Children under 12 do not count towards households or numbers when meeting outside.

Children under 12 do not need to maintain physical distance from others indoors or outdoors.

The members of an individual or extended household can meet outdoors for sport, exercise or social interaction.

Those at a higher risk of severe illness from coronavirus (including those who had been shielding, people 70 and over, people who are pregnant and people with an underlying medical condition) should strictly follow the physical distancing guidance.

It is against the law to consume alcohol in any outdoors public place in any Level 4 area.

Marches, parades and static demonstrations are not allowed at this time.

Copy and pasted from Scotgov, I read that to mean you can meet someone outdoors inc the garden for emotional support.

Yes for emotional support

It's one of those bonkers ones define 'emotional support'. That can be anything from having a winge about homeschooling, to someone who having an emotional breakdown because of hitting crisis point.

Who gives a shit if it's in a park or a garden?

@jabbathebutt

Well I work at Glasgow university and we were told no f2f in our school until next year, the head of school said this, plus surveys have shown students like blended learning. I know there is a chance this could change but I'd personally be pissed as I'm classed as vulnerable.

And what about international students and vaccinations?

I wonder where we'd be allowed to go in October, again because of vaccinations in those countries, and things like vaccination passports and having to get tested and possibly quarantine on return just makes me wonder if its all worth it, and where is even hot in October? As in around 30 degrees in Europe? I think Spain is like mid 20 degrees area. I want boiling hot weather so it feels like summer even in october.

I work at GU too and we’re getting told much the same - probably online in September, hopefully moving to f2f in Jan. But I know my school aren’t at all happy about it. A few of the courses I look after are made up completely of international students, most from East Asia, North Africa and the Middle East. Asking them to log in at 1am their time for Zoom classes is just not sustainable. One of my course conveners recently surveyed his students (after a high drop out rate) and most of the drop outs gave the time difference as the biggest problem (these courses only count for 10 credits so are the first ones they drop).

I hope, for folk like you who are vulnerable, that wfh can continue in some way indefinitely. I know lots of my colleagues would definitely like to keep a balance of wfh and office. I would ask what school you’re in but that would be cheeky I do know it’s not mine though, as you’re a recent start and we haven’t had any.

Lurker here but we don't think this new variant is going to delay schools etc opening further do we?

They really need to start letting people meet outdoors as in sat down not walking more than one of you.I had a cup of tea inside with a friend this afternoon ( so shoot me) and gawd it was so nice to talk without trudging round on yet another walk.

I don't mind meeting outdoors as its warmer than it was in Winter and we have our chiminea now. But if we can't do that soon we'll just have folks indoors so neighbours don't hear us.

I hate outdoors

@wavingthistle78 I'd like to think not as we have the vaccine now and almost through the priority groups

These variants are bound to happen. But not to doom us to eternal lockdown

Apparently they've found out that first dose of either vaccine reduces chance of hospitalisation from covid by 90%.Is going go be front cover of Telegraph tomorrow. Has to be a game changer- will SG even acknowledge it do we think?

ha ha @AgentCooper need to be careful not to out myself. We have a lot of international students in our school too though. I'm on a short contract so hopefully the entire contract will be WFH. I love WFH. Hate bitchy offices and obviously its much safer for me too. I just miss socializing but i can do that in other ways (when restrictions allow)

@wavingthistle78

Lurker here but we don't think this new variant is going to delay schools etc opening further do we?

I doubt it will more be used as a reason for NS to say look my put everyone into a hotel is right and the UK govt is wrong..... (although it happened before the ban!)

Their is concern about new variants but actually we already have one of the worst UK home grown ones in circulation/majority so shouldn't make a difference.

The horizon programme was really interesting on variants - basically it's inevitable so even if Scotland had locked down quicker and fully there is potential we would have just ended up with a Scottish one instead! Nature of viruses unfortunately.

@Scottishskifun yeah but if it's able to evade the vaccine to some extent then that might worry them more

Can I ask the university staff on here what’s the basis for the blended learning from September? Is it because we’re still expecting social distancing?
Do universities think you won’t be allowed to fill the large lecture theatres? Or will it be because you’re only allowed restricted numbers on campus?