[quote kurtrussellsbeard]@NotAnActualSheep you would think but none of them are particularly good at articulating it.
If Labour could then that would put independence to bed but they don't / can't so here we are 🤷🏻♀️[/quote]
But the tories are a cause too, though we may not agree with it! No-one wakes up one morning and thinks, "I know, I'm going to campaign for a party that's going to fuck the economy and make everyone miserable when we win". They (even they) believe what they are doing is in the good of the country. Many disagree with them totally, but they have succeeded in getting enough people to vote for them and their vision of how things should be to have a majority, just as the SNP has in Scotland. Both may be a case of "well, they're the best of a bad bunch" to be fair, but they still have that mandate for their cause across the UK as a whole.
And I'm not convinced at all a labour uk government would stop the call for independence even though most popular Snp policies are actually labour policies in the first place. It would "be the wrong kind of labour", or not go far enough, or not target the right things, or go too far. At the moment the independence movement is focusing on the evil bojo brexit government, but that's not a permanent state of affairs. If there were a labour government tomorrow I'm pretty sure they'd be cast as "red tories" and criticised just as much, regardless of whatever policies were enacted. I don't think the independence movement has a set of policy goals that could be met by a labour UK government... As you say, likely the Snp would become irrelevant after independence anyway and people would be "free" to vote whichever way they want, so their manifesto isn't the aim of the movement.