No More Tiers (Enough is Enough)

[WaxOnFeckOff]

Here it is - thread 365 - was getting too twitchy....

I actually caught a bit of the lecture today. I was gutting myself at the interchange when Ruth was giving examples of emails mainly from family members of 80 plus people saying they hadn't had their vaccination/appointment yet and NS comes back with, "well I've had emails from people over 80 telling me they've had it"

Now whilst I'm sure that NS wouldn't lie and I guess some people would email to say how grateful they are, I am sure that is a minority of over 80s. I just thought it was very childish. The simple and proper answer is "we've not yet reached the target to complete all over 80s so there will be lots who haven't been vaccinated yet but I can assure them that we are doing all we can to roll this out as quickly as possible" I think the cracks are showing.

I’ve just got a text today from my GP saying they don’t have the vaccine yet so please don’t phone and once they do get it they will start vaccinating the over 80s. It’s a disgrace they have had no supply yet - the Scottish Government couldn’t organise a piss up on a brewery.

DH and I both struggling to cope on a daily basis. Youngest really needs the resources I can't give him which is provided at nursery. He kicks, bites and hits us. Hearing the news today was a huge blow for those of us struggling at home with preschoolers. It's relentless. 13yo is okay with his remote learning, 10yo knows what he is doing, but occupying the 5yo and 3yo is just getting too much at times. I take them out on a daily walk but can't really do anything else.

I feel for those with kids sitting exams in secondary education. I really do. No one is a winner here.

Dreading each day.

Twitter early learning has some videos up from the medical director that have just infuriated me!
Basically there have been 900ish cases in the 2-5s..... 0.6% of the total number of 2-5 year olds in Scotland so why are nurseries closed/unable to offer parents assistance!

It makes my blood boil and we are lucky that my son is attending under a key worker slot at his private nursery and our LA allow for it to be 1 parent.

Glasgow live put a link up today that's a Scottish vaccine calculator. I did it and it said March 21? Second dose in June? Surely that can't be right at the rate we are going?

It did say based on 74% uptake and so many vaccines per week which I can't remember but I am early thirties? Seems odd

I made the mistake of watching a little bit of the update today (I usually avoid as I get quite wound up and it's not good for my stress levels). A very snarky performance today I thought - NS seemed very ratty and the 'hissy fit' comment in relation to very reasonable objection from the UK government was just pathetic and very unprofessional IMO. Frankly she looked like she was losing it a bit. Maybe it's all getting too much - she's been getting a lot of capital out of being 'better' than the UK government at COVID, but now they are quite rightly getting credit for providing vaccines we probably wouldn't have access to if independent and for being more on the ball with distribution. Plus of course, the net is closing wrt her misleading parliament, with the remit of the enquiry being expanded into uncomfortable territory (despite Swinney's efforts).

Mine said same (over 50) and put my DC is (20 and 19) and they were only just behind me - Did Nicola commission it? :o

@Lockdownbear

I totally agree on the younger ones needing constant input from someone.

My P1 was apparently at the "top" of the "early" curriculum for number and social and at the "top" of "first" for reading and writing in her report last term. She's still needy as hell and can flip to tears and tantrums if she gets a question wrong on an app or she thinks a game might be too hard...

I mean she's probably less prone to tantrums in school but as we moved from England having done a year of school nursery and 2 terms of reception she's had about as much school experience as a P2, so would probably be at the mature and confident end of the P1 spectrum.

She's not ready to "work" without me or another adult sat next to her, keeping her vaguely on task and checking she's read the question rather than guessed it...

Only a very few P1s will be fluent readers able to read all the instructions themselves.

There's also a task most days that requires adult involvement - making twig boats, bug hotels, nature walks, catch, random baking or science stuff in the guise of family learning (definitely things I would have preferred to keep at school - we were trying to ease her out of the need to bring random previous bits of "nature" home, and now we have to for school!!!!)

@WaxOnFeckOff

Mine said same (over 50) and put my DC is (20 and 19) and they were only just behind me - Did Nicola commission it? :o

Yeah I just did it for a few people in my family.

Said Mum and Dad should be getting their jab 23rd to 27th Jan, next week. They haven't been contacted.

Also said that DH and I (late 40s) and our 18 year old will all be vaccinated between 29th March and 15th April.

Yeah right.

Also on that calculator thing if you change the "vaccination rate" from the default Scottish government plan to "last 7 days" - i.e. what they are ACTUALLY ACHIEVING and not some back of a fag packet calculation by Nicola, the date moves to....

15th October 2021 to 1 Jan 2022.

@RaspberryCoulis

Also on that calculator thing if you change the "vaccination rate" from the default Scottish government plan to "last 7 days" - i.e. what they are ACTUALLY ACHIEVING and not some back of a fag packet calculation by Nicola, the date moves to....

15th October 2021 to 1 Jan 2022.

Yep, knocks me back to September. And to be fair, the last 7 days is a big improvement on what it's been prior to that. But I'm sure at my age (and I'll be a year older by september and shift up a category) I'm supposed to be done months before that?

Does anyone have the link for this calculator please?

I got the 15th February for my vaccine not long to go then .

www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-scotland

First dose by the end of March for me, second by end June

@Arewethereyet21

I’ve just got a text today from my GP saying they don’t have the vaccine yet so please don’t phone and once they do get it they will start vaccinating the over 80s. It’s a disgrace they have had no supply yet - the Scottish Government couldn’t organise a piss up on a brewery.

@Arewethereyet21 same with my GP - their voicemail says we don’t know yet, over 80s will be first, don’t call us we’ll call you.

My 80 something godmother is getting it on Friday, thankfully, but she’s in a different LA.

Really feeling for everyone trying to work and homeschool. Everyone I know in that position is suffering. One friend says she’s sick of the Facebook post from a HT being shared everywhere that says don’t try to teach your kids, just do baking and go for walks etc, as it doesn’t exactly tally with the fairly rigorous schedule set out by her kids’ school and the amount of work. Which is no fault of teachers as for many parents that’s ideal and exactly what they want, but for those trying to WFH it’s disastrous.

Ooh it’s like the queue outside the supermarket last March. Based on your profile, there are between 2,401,655 and 3,099,359 people in front of you in the queue for a COVID vaccine across Scotland

ScotGov plan I get one for around my birthday🥳: expect to receive your first dose of vaccine between 29/03/2021 and 18/04/2021
BUT
Past 7 days view, it’s more of a happy new year present: expect to receive your first dose of vaccine between 15/10/2021 and 01/01/2022

@Bytheloch

Ooh it’s like the queue outside the supermarket last March. Based on your profile, there are between 2,401,655 and 3,099,359 people in front of you in the queue for a COVID vaccine across Scotland

ScotGov plan I get one for around my birthday🥳: expect to receive your first dose of vaccine between 29/03/2021 and 18/04/2021
BUT
Past 7 days view, it’s more of a happy new year present: expect to receive your first dose of vaccine between 15/10/2021 and 01/01/2022

Me too @Bytheloch, I won't hold my breath though

Same here. If I can be vaccinated by June/July I'll be alright with that. I have elective surgery I really want to crack on with and I'm not putting myself into hospital without a vaccination.

The problem with these bloody 'don't stress yourself.. bake... walk... enjoy your children...' is that they're not generally what parents want. We had a lot of parental feedback suggesting they want full lesson input for all subjects. The ones who want that tend to be the ones who shout the loudest, so those who feel their children need a bit more down time, or to work in a more flexible way don't really have a lot of options.

what if you are bed bound or otherwise unable to leave the house to be vaccinated? I'm thinking of my mum's best pal's husband. My 'uncle' sort of. He's bed bound and late 70s. 'auntie' has bad asthma and athritis. Neither can drive. Would the GP do it in the home?

I just want my boy to see other kids.

It’s making me very sad

Also - bake, walk, sew, etc?

That's great but I've also got a two hour call with my boss tomorrow followed by a customer pitch lasting another hour, and plenty work to do in between.

It's just a bit smug and twee. Oh these precious times 🤮

@Iwillneverbesatisfied

what if you are bed bound or otherwise unable to leave the house to be vaccinated? I'm thinking of my mum's best pal's husband. My 'uncle' sort of. He's bed bound and late 70s. 'auntie' has bad asthma and athritis. Neither can drive. Would the GP do it in the home?

Yes, I think they will, GP surgeries are best placed to roll out to their patients as they can accommodate these scenarios.

Unfortunately I have heard of an elderly bed bound person being marked as a vaccine refuser as unable to get to the GPs. It is a friend of a colleagues Grandparent, so I can't say for sure it's accurate.