Drowning in a sea full of tiers

[Cismyfatarse]

Next thread. DD's birthday so can someone link.

For dc it would be inch more like a normal day to see their teachers teaching each lesson. It happens for university, gym classes, etc so why not schools?

Much more.

What about the kids that can't sign in? I use the laptop for work, ds has an old tablet he can use but it's not great, but then we don't have another device for ds2.

Plus there's no way our broadband would support 3 of us on calls at the same time, we don't have the bandwidth in this area.

@WouldBeGood it's hard to explain, but teaching a lesson and just giving the information would probably take about 10 minutes. In a class the rest of the hour would be spent supporting individuals, explaining points, keeping kids on task and tbh a lot of pencil sharpening, toilet visits, drinks etc.
Online learning is much more effective if there is something to watch or read away from the class and then check in time with the teacher, then more tasks away from the laptop, then support and assessment.
It's very frustrating for parents as the learning part of school is a lot less time consuming than the social aspect...

Yes, but these are not ideal circumstances. Online even for half a lesson, you could still answer questions, engage, chat, ??

Because of it’s just a central hub of generic worksheets then there’s no need for teachers?

@WouldBeGood also for anyone who has been in an interminable work video call and found that tedious and stressful how much harder will that be for dc ( and teachers) !!!

One DC at uni has had no live lessons or tutorial groups and the other (different uni) has had one live tutorial group a week. Not all unis are teaching live either. One Dc is half way through 3rd year and has never sat an exam.

@kurtrussellsbeard I too am angry. Normally the SQA pay me to mark Higher. This year there will be no study leave, no extra money, and we are expected to gather "robust" evidence from pupils who can send each other answers.

My colleague in Maths has no idea how to proceed. At least in English some bits are hard to copy.

@WaxOnFeckOff that's a bit outrageous.. no online teaching at all ???

But I it will be less boring than a worksheet. And they’ll be with their peers, albeit virtually.

It seems to be being done in England

What’s the point of this “online learning?”

Not a single soul out clapping tonight I think it died a death

@WouldBeGood absolutely not a lot of worksheets. Planning effective online learning is a whole new skill set,it's not classroom teaching at all. It's extremely difficult and teachers are doing an amazing job if they are stepping up to it even in the smallest way. I have seen the most amazing virtual classrooms and ideas 💡

@ikswobel what does a virtual classroom entail?

@Cismyfatarse I'm a marker too 👋🏻 we may well have crossed paths over a delightful buffet at the Marriott (no sarcasm there either - highlight of my day)

There will be no robust evidence unless we can get back into school pronto. 🤷🏻‍♀️

And even then unless we get back quickly I'm really not sure how fair it is to proceed as planned. Some kids have missed 4-6 weeks of school as a result of forced isolations never mind lockdown 2.0. It's just not fair.

@kurtrussellsbeard Love a Marriott buffet. And the free pens. I used to bribe pupils with the free pens from Hampden, Celtic Park and the Rangers ground back in the day too.

You just can’t win, one family wants live teaching, another family can’t do that because there are three kids and one laptop.

[quote ikswobel]@WaxOnFeckOff that's a bit outrageous.. no online teaching at all ??? [/quote]
Nope, nothing. There was a weekly voluntary session to go to if they had any questions to ask. DS didn't and is very shy so didn't bother. He had some group work with other students which they did via messenger or dial in but lecturers weren't involved in that. He averages around 90+% for all assignments and previous class tests so not really worried that he's needing support but he could do with being around people and being challenged.

@WouldBeGood

Because of it’s just a central hub of generic worksheets then there’s no need for teachers?

You still need teachers to be able to explain where kids (and parents) don't understand. A bit like a lecturer delivering a lecture to 100s and being able to ensure clarity in a tutorial of 30 kids.

@WouldBeGood www.weareteachers.com/virtual-bitmoji-classroom/
These are amazing

@WaxOnFeckOff that's so isolating, didn't think that any unis would be that bad

[quote ikswobel]@WaxOnFeckOff that's so isolating, didn't think that any unis would be that bad [/quote]
That's an integrated masters in Computer Science at Strathclyde. He's had a distinction for his first 2 years so as I say, it's not that he needs support that he isn't getting, it's just that it's not really the academic learning that he needs. He gets video lectures etc to watch so not like he isn't getting anything but he spends 22 hours a day in his bedroom so some more interaction would be good. I tried to encourage him to go along to the hour available so he could even hear what other folk were asking as I think that can give you info you didn't know you needed, but he declined - he's 20, I can't force him to dial in!

@WaxOnFeckOff feeling your pain, DS here and kicking his heels after graduation last year