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Cismyfatarse · 05/01/2021 15:45

Next thread. DD's birthday so can someone link.

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Lockdownbear · 07/01/2021 12:23

I'll give our school credit they were doing what they could, printer did make life easier but they also give jotters out to kids who needed them. Including putting them behind the counter in the local corner shop.

But at a national level they should have ensured every child had sole access to a device. Not 3 kids sharing the xbox.

anon444877 · 07/01/2021 12:24

Yes Keir starmer tweeted that three were working to provide free data @littlbrowndog

littlbrowndog · 07/01/2021 12:25

I saw it thanks wax. I don’t need it but some friends do. So will pass on

I think they were talking about hot spots as well

anon444877 · 07/01/2021 12:25

Ah wax has found a better list - glad more providers have joined

littlbrowndog · 07/01/2021 12:26

Wonder if giff gaff will do it as well

littlbrowndog · 07/01/2021 12:27

Great list thanks

WaxOnFeckOff · 07/01/2021 12:28

I think it would be worth asking any provider or just getting a 1p pay as you go sim for one of the ones who are doing it, would that work?

Invisimamma · 07/01/2021 12:40

Our school had never once asked if we have devices to work from. My kids have very old tablets I'm sure if they will cut it, and I have a work laptop for working from home, that won't be available to children during the day.

Has anyone had any word from their school about what home learning will look like? We've heard nothing, not even a 'we'll be in touch soon' message. I was hoping to be able to plan things over the weekend so we'd be ready to start on Monday, rather than scrabbling round on Monday morning whilst also trying to do my own job.

Iwillneverbesatisfied · 07/01/2021 12:43

Does anyone know when we might see if all those vaccinations are making a difference to the number of deaths and infections? How soon will we see a drop?

StatisticallyChallenged · 07/01/2021 12:54

Ours called yesterday (private) to say they're posting out books and online starts Monday.

Not heard much about state in Edinburgh.

I'm not looking forward to the scramble next week either. We're still not sure if we have the demand to run a keyworker service either so double scramble

Lockdownbear · 07/01/2021 12:59

We were ask about access during last lockdown. And again very early in the term. But its different having access, sharing a tablet or xbox and having a dedicated device.

WaxOnFeckOff · 07/01/2021 13:02

friend in Glasgow got timetable yesterday and basically a full day of teams calls etc, not interactive I don't think mostly but will be doing full days it looks like. Impression she had was that instead of like 6 S1 english classes, one teacher would do presentation to all S1 english pupils and the other teachers would do a mix of dealing with queries and preparing or presenting next class. Might not work as well with later classes where they may be down the round doing different texts for different subjects, but she was surprised and happy for the moment. It might prove to be a heavy day on a screen though.

Jodri · 07/01/2021 13:05

@Squeakypotato, I would welcome clarification from scot.gov on where people are contracting it in Scotland.

People I know who have caught covid-19 caught it by,

Christmas shopping two days before Christmas in Glasgow (2 hours away from home and passing through many LA)

Not wearing mask at work and repeatedly being reminded to do so.

Hot desking at work.

Not maintaining socially distancing at work from colleagues in staff room and not wearing PPE when work necessitates close contact.

Visiting 80 year old elderly relative in house as it was her birthday.

Allowing family (who were waiting on results of a COVID test) to visit and stay overnight to celebrate Christmas Day.

Going for a walk with friend and not socially distancing.

Like everyone I can only talk on my experience, unless someone can direct me to any factual publications which states where people are contracting COVID-19

By the Scot.gov action of continuing with the restrictions and the implementation of a lockdown and closure of schools it does suggest to me that people are not abiding by the guidelines and this is contributing to the spread.

Lockdownbear · 07/01/2021 13:06

Waxon, i assumed that would be the obvious way to do it.
DSs primary has 2 or 2.5 classes in each year. They issued work by year group so the teachers were working together rather than duplicating work. In the chat or questions either teacher would reply.

WaxOnFeckOff · 07/01/2021 13:19

I think track and trace or whatever it's called hasn't been great, started too late and not resourced plus people not being honest or just not being sure. If a whole family comes down at pretty much the same time, I guess trying to decide who the first one is won't be easy especially if you have asymptomatics as well. Then it's trying to decide if Mum caught it the supermarket, dad at his work, DC hanging out with teen pals, small Dc at school or in park or whatever.

We had it early on with no testing. At that point it was thought that touching stuff was the issue and therefore no distancing or masks. Colleague been away skiing, another then admitted to hospital and tested positive, I know I stood with ski colleague at water cooler getting water, his desk was back to back with mine, hospital colleague sat with him training, I went into a toilet after hospital woman and still flush spray in air as well. meanwhile cleaners going round cleaning handles and bannisters - probably caught it with one of those scenarios and then passed it on at home.

DH in and out of hospitals every day, he notes that trainees seem to follow proper procedures to the letter, nurses a hit and miss or do 95% then do something stupid that negates it all. Drs go about ward to ward, not changing masks or santising. Just his observations while hanging about waiting.

WouldBeGood · 07/01/2021 13:19

No word on what learning provision is to be made available for DS yet.

Groovee · 07/01/2021 13:24

Not being funny but I started a new job in August where we were told that permanent staff would be getting an iPad which is great as we can take photos and get the observation or story up right away.

We're now in January. I still do not have an iPad. I have been given a school mini one which is iOS 12. It types whatever it wants and doesn't conform to what I am attempting to write which had me in tears one night. A colleagues iPad is still linked to the old member of staff who left 2 years ago and won't charge! 🤦🏻‍♀️ Another colleague has a school laptop which is so slow and freezes all the time.

We're fortunate to have latest iPhones and I have my own laptop.

StatisticallyChallenged · 07/01/2021 13:27

It's just riding Groovee. You can run online learning with inadequate or insufficient equivalent, both staff and pupils.

WaxOnFeckOff · 07/01/2021 13:34

Most largish operations will have a fairly decent IT department with the ability to log issues etc. Now I am sure that something exists within education as they will need it from the point of view of school offices etc. I'm not sure that they will be designed to cope with thousands of pupils and teachers trying to run programmes they are unfamiliar with from a variety of different bits of technology and have that work seamlessly across the entire education system of scotland. I'm guessing most teachers are intelligent folk but with the best will in the world, very few will be IT experts.

Lockdownbear · 07/01/2021 13:41

Waxon that's another reason why kids should have been issued with the same machines and the network support behind them.

WaxOnFeckOff · 07/01/2021 13:45

I'm not disagreeing, just pointing out that there are going to be issues and there isn't an infrastructure to support it. This is maybe a case where getting someone in to take this as an outsourced project might have worked better but hindsight is a great thing.

WaxOnFeckOff · 07/01/2021 13:47

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This is where the vaccination programme is at.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 07/01/2021 13:48

Re. the vaccine rollout - chart is from the BBC showing the rate of vaccination needed to achieve the May deadline, and what has actually been achieved so far. Let's hope the pace picks up a bit or this could be a long road 😫.

Drowning in a sea full of tiers
Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 07/01/2021 13:49

Oops, cross post with Wax!

WouldBeGood · 07/01/2021 13:50

Mmm.. I’m not good with graphs, but I sense that might not be brilliant

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