Drowning in a sea full of tiers

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Next thread. DD's birthday so can someone link.

Plus I’m no gardener, but don’t they need to buy/grow/plan stock in advance?

Mainly hospitals and care homes and then in families

Yes I agree I read it was care homes and hospitals.
However, everyone I have heard of in my little life who has had Covid-19 or who have been told to isolate, broke the guidance socially or at work.

But surely it must have gone through just about every care home by now?

It’s rife in hospitals.

Care homes outbreaks happening in different areas now, such as Dumfries and Galloway.

@Iwillneverbesatisfied your friends DD should have a place due to Sens closure doesn't apply they are best speaking directly with the school

@Scottishskifun

My son is going to nursery on a key worker place (private nursery) they are allowed 50% capacity but currently at 35% so have put out a post that if parents are wfh and struggling with the stress then they can apply for a place and they will assess it under the circumstances and criteria. I think they are quite rare in their approach but were also the hub last time so very good at covid processes. Currently by sons group is 1:1 ratio!

I know we are lucky though!

My friends who are teachers are already pulling their hair out trying to sort laptops out for some of the kids I mean what 5 year old has their own sodding laptop!

What council has left it until now to sort laptops? This was done months ago and again parents asked and devices given out before Christmas if none at home. Very poor planning.

@Outsidemum1 it's not the teachers fault several schools had broken up before the announcement and they had more parents requesting laptops and a new cohort where laptops hadn't been issued yet. They have struggled to source them. I don't think it's the councils fault either trying to find additional laptops a few days before Christmas was always going to be a struggle!

In our area it wasnt a blanket give every kid a device it was more, google Classroom can be accessed on, tablets, laptops, xbox, playstation, can your kids access it?

Not do they have their own device, just can they access it.

@WouldBeGood

It’s rife in hospitals.

Care homes outbreaks happening in different areas now, such as Dumfries and Galloway.

I'm sure I read yesterday that the NHS were telling people not to go out on the ice because if they ended up in hospital they were significantly increasing their chances of catching covid.

I am a teacher. Poor planning was aimed at the council, not teachers. Sourcing laptops should never be the remit of individual teachers.
Thousands of chromebooks and I-pads have been given out during the pandemic. Councils have had months to ensure digital support is given where needed.

There should have been a blanket policy to ensure every child was given / loaned a chromebook.

Not be relying on kids to use the xbox and the living room telly.

Hospital was how we all got it. FIL caught it from a carer coming in, was taken into hospital (not for Covid, he was asymptomatic) and DH caught it from him there. He was on end of life care for a fortnight so DH was allowed to spend every minute there. And before we knew it, DH had it, 3 year old DS caught it and passed it onto me and my parents who look after him.

One of DH’s colleagues also caught it in hospital and it went round his family. I think Ayrshire is particularly bad for hospital transmission right now, that’s where both cases I’m talking about happened.

And solidarity with teachers. My DSis is one and the last minute nature of every decision has had her so stressed and worried about the kids (ASN secondary school).

Device and internet access is an issue - plenty of folk who only access internet through a mobile phone. It's not really realistic to expect kids to do their school work on a mobile phone

Yes especially if you are on pay as you go

@Jodri

Yes I agree I read it was care homes and hospitals. However, everyone I have heard of in my little life who has had Covid-19 or who have been told to isolate, broke the guidance socially or at work.

The only people I know who have caught it... Work in a hospital (& subsequently gave it to their whole household) Work as a carer (& as above re household transmission) Work in a school (& as above) Were a care home resident (sadly did not survive covid, 99yo granny of a friend)

The people I know who probably had it - classic symptoms but before widespread testing- all caught it before the first lockdown.

@Lockdownbear

In our area it wasnt a blanket give every kid a device it was more, google Classroom can be accessed on, tablets, laptops, xbox, playstation, can your kids access it?

Not do they have their own device, just can they access it.

Same here. We managed the last home schooling perfectly well with an ancient ipad which DS has inherited...was just watching bits and bobs on YouTube really, and writing on worksheets or in a jotter, with occasional bits of typing or coding which he did on our desktops. But nothing was required to be done on a particular day, or to a deadline or anything, so we could schedule that around when we didn't need them. But now we have a schedule for the "remote learning" it seems a lot more intense, with daily tasks set, to be uploaded on that day, a daily briefing on teams at a set time, with an adult to be present and so on. It's a little scary to be honest, and I'm not sure how he will cope with just his tablet, let alone if we were accessing the internet through the telly, or we had siblings or anything. I feel a bit misled that all we had been asked was "do we have a device that can access the internet" whereas in practice it looks like we'll only be able to do this easily if each child has a dedicated device with unlimited time and unconstrained internet access.

We're a pretty tech heavy household, and if needed can rustle up a laptop (my work laptop, which I'm not using at the moment, but will have to childproof) but it seems like many families could have to struggle on with unsuitable equipment, just because they have "something". As it is, our internet can't cope with two zoom calls at the same time, so if DH and DS conflict, I don't know who will get priority. I've been able to schedule mine around DH til now, but can't see the school being that flexible!

But it’s data as well.

@Lockdownbear

In our area it wasnt a blanket give every kid a device it was more, google Classroom can be accessed on, tablets, laptops, xbox, playstation, can your kids access it?

Not do they have their own device, just can they access it.

Same here. If you have a phone or games console then apparently that's fine. So many of the tasks require a printer as well. I was hoping for some insight into what homeschooling might look like this time around and to be able to plan around my own work but just had a message to say it'll be released at 9am Monday.

I agree that things like garden centres and off licences and home bargains and so on aren't the big covid spreaders we are being led to believe. But it is a bit galling that the "last to close first to open" narrative on schools then seems a bit meaningless. What they mean is "close in preference to other things because they are a bit more risky". Which is arguably fine, but not what we were told. There are arguments for closing schools and arguments for not closing them (or, it seems, closing them to anyone with parents who don't have the Right Kind of Job) but they are evidently not the "last to close". I'm not claiming that the gov is putting garden centres ahead of children's education or anything...but they are obviously using a risk assessment that doesn't put keeping schools open at the top of the pile.

I work in education. The provision of digital devices is constrained by budgets and there simply aren’t enough for everyone. There are also supply issues as schools and councils across the world are trying to buy devices at the same time.

All councils got a grant to purchase more devices to tackle digital exclusion. Some councils have completed that exercise but not all. The pandemic has highlighted a need to look again at how digital learning is funded. There is a limited pot of money but I think there is a case for investing more, even if funding to other areas is reduced.

@littlebrowndog, there was something going around fb saying a lot of the major providers were giving extra data etc free to accommodate home schooling. So worth asking if you need it. I'll see if I can find post as I'd ignored as not relevant for me and had been widely shared it seemed.

Here if it helps anyone