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As requested.

Happy to help with home es queries about English up to AH level.

I don't know why Boris has left nurseries open it seems completely insane. Either schools are safe but a hotbed of community transmission or they are not, nurseries are likely to be exactly the same as it is staff mixing, parents at pick up etc that must be the issue. As usual they just can't do anything right. I'm thinking it's because nurseries in England don't have as many funded places as we do?

Yes @NotAnActualSheep that would hopefully be something positive to come out of this, some proper research and treatment aimed at long covid but probably equally of benefit to all that have post viral issues.

I was really surprised when the consultant said he felt that DSs Dyspraxia could have been caused by his post strep infection he had when he was 7- obviously not a virus in this case but just shows what can happen.

Boris promised the first 4 of 9 rungs of the ladder by mid Feb (everyone over 70, all health and social care workers, and all clinically vulnerable). NS anticipated all 9 rungs by May ( as above but over 50s too), so goalposts are different. I did wonder if these are the respective points at which they'd start opening up again, but I guess time will tell.

And yes, I think its becoming very obvious that no-one in the NS inner circle has direct experience of trying to work while watching toddlers. Whether its Boris personally or an advisor, at least someone in Downing Street appears to have personal insight and isn't being so flippant about it (or lumping it in the same category as home schooling difficulty-wise, which it most definitely isn't)

@ikswobel it's more likely because the science shows that younger children are much less risk of being spreaders than older ones. The SAGE advice from the summer showed almost negligible impact on spread from nurseries. Given the harms to children and parents of shuttingvthem I think the evidence is firmly behind keeping them open.

Yes as usual, the difference in goals points to difference in the post lock down strategy, suspect that's right.

It just is harder with under 5s, and if it's bad overall for primary and secondary aged kids to be at home not at school, suspect the outcomes for ignored under 5s look even worse.

@Tomorrowisanewday

If Boris can do it by mid February, why is it taking us til may? Is he just doing his usual "Britain is the best country in the world"?

NS said everyone over 50 by May

Boris said everyone in first 4 priority groups which won't be as far as the over 50s.

No,the SAGE report found that youngsters aged 2-17 are much more likely to be the first to bring Covid into their household.

Hello, longtime lurker here, but just wanted to say thanks for the information and comment - now check these threads after any news announcement - usually much more useful! Now have a v sad P7 and a gloomy S5...just feel bleak and sad tonight.

I've just seen that only private nursery down south to open. School and Local Authority to close. Suspect it's more to do with funding than safety

I know its near impossible working and looking after a toddler though!

Also, know the thread's moved on but FWIW O definitely don't think everything the SG do is correct- one of my first posts was on the first outbreak of Christmas rules not making sense!

*first set of Christmas rules

My head's obviously mush

WouldBeGood - yes, it is cause for hope.

Sorry, I'd spent time over the break on my company accounts, and was looking like we'd just about survive - today's announcement just knocked the stuffing out of me . I'll be back to p**sing my staff off with my "cheer leader" routine tomorrow, as they refer to it!

I think the difference with nurseries is very small groups, ie bubbles of 8 children, very few nursery children have been seriously ill and the benefits to young children being with their peers outweighs the risk of covid.

Slightly older children can self entertain, LOs need constant interaction, remember all the years when parents were guilt tripped for letting kids watch Cbeebies and the delays to their development.

*1 million by end of January that must be around 20% of the population? That's really going some.

But why is a further 20% and a bit taking 4 months? When 20% done in just over a month!

SAGE are discredited doom mongers

we've already done a chunk of the 1m I presume through some of Dec - who knows, is it like those flight times where they allow 1.5 hours but you know 30 mins is flying and the rest is faffing? (Facetious).

Let's hope more vaccine information as we go week by week.

@Coquohvan

*1 million by end of January that must be around 20% of the population? That's really going some.

But why is a further 20% and a bit taking 4 months? When 20% done in just over a month!

I wonder if it's because the second dose will be incorporated into that timeline?

@anon444877 someone on Twitter said 56k

Done already I mean

That's interesting - so that is a huge ramp up.

@anon444877 around 92k vaccinated according to Travelling Tabby:

www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/

@WouldBeGood are they? Genuinely interested in this!

I am fairly morose at the thought of this continuing on for weeks again. February feels like wishful thinking.

Husband and I are both keyworkers but don’t qualify for childcare as I can work from home. So I have to balance a very senior role and a bored toddler. Again.

Solidarity to all!

Thanks direwolf - I'm trying not to dwell on the may NS vaccine goal as meaning very few freedoms back until then. Right, taking my gloomy thoughts to sleep!

Hello, i have loved these threads. They have made me laugh with the doom and gloom but i think today's announcement has me feeling down. What i would like to know is why are childminders allowed to stay open but private nurseries are for keyworkers only? I ask as i have a 2 year old and i really struggled working from home the 1st time but this time i wont have my husband to help.