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Morning all.

I'm sure they said on radio Scotland there was no briefing today, but Holyrood is back tomorrow to discuss the Brexit agreement?

@Tomorrowisanewday

I'm sure they said on radio Scotland there was no briefing today, but Holyrood is back tomorrow to discuss the Brexit agreement?

Great news thanks get a reprieve from potential further travel restrictions and can go sledging and for a snow walk tomorrow (its snowy inland in our LA)

Off topic but which areas of Scotland have got enough snow for sledging? Absolutely nothing here

Shetland might be going into level 4 soon due to a rise in cases.

Campsies have got good sledging but get up very early as they're near enough within 5 miles of Glasgow county borders. The road up from Lennoxtown is crazy with dodgy parking. Hills to the south of Glasgow looked possible but obviously no direct experience.

Ben Lomond etc looked like alpine mountains. Looked snowy distant views of Pentlands, Ochils etc

Radio Scotland was suggesting an update on numbers at 2.20pm but not with NS.

But then they were also talking about the "mutant" virus which is always a good choice of words for raising a bit of hysteria

@WaxOnFeckOff “go back to SNP college to learn to persuade better” 😂😂😂

I know the discussion has moved on, but this...
Don't you think political parties have a duty to act in accordance with the views of those who voted for them?
... is a worrying assumption, surely? The answer is "no, not at all" . MPs have a duty to represent all their constituents and vote in all their best interests, not just those who voted for them. Isn't that Democracy 101? Obviously their views on how to achieve that may vary according to the political party the MP belongs to (and anything that was in an election manifesto I would expect would be supported/ opposed in Parliament, but that isn't the case here, as the issue of an EU trade deal wasn't in the last SNP manifesto) but people voted for the individual MP and not the party. So you get rebel MPs, independent MPs and so on, and their personal views on any particular issue won't match those of every person who voted for them. If MPs voted based on majority public opinion (or even majority vocalised public opinion), let alone majority opinion only of their voters, you'd end up with all sorts of nasty and unevidenced things, and I'm really glad they are under no obligation to do that.

I'm also glad I don't have to tell my MP my opinion on everything he has to vote on. That would get very tiring for both of us.

The Cathkin Braes are good for sledging and straddle the Glasgow / S Lanarkshire Boundary. However according to BBC it is going to snow everywhere except Glasgow on Wednesday and will all be gone by Thursday.

@Iwillneverbesatisfied

Shetland might be going into level 4 soon due to a rise in cases.

I read that. That's pretty bad. 14 cases yesterday, up to a total of 30 in the past week. It sounds as if a care home is involved as they've stopped all visits immediately, but they don't actually know the source, which is a bit worrying. It does seem harsh to lockdown the whole area for comparatively low numbers, though, but not that surprising at the moment

Edinburgh has snow for sledging

[quote WouldBeGood]@WaxOnFeckOff “go back to SNP college to learn to persuade better” 😂😂😂[/quote]
Yes, because that's what politics is. Having the Right opinions and being able to persuade others of their Rightness. Nothing to do with exploring solutions to issues, listening to others and deriving and evolving policy from experience and research, based on a general ethical framework as to how society should operate.

Sounds a bit like a cult to me.

@RaraRachael

Off topic but which areas of Scotland have got enough snow for sledging? Absolutely nothing here

Some of the ski centres are open for sledging but you have to live in the local authority and police have been checking.

It does seem harsh to lockdown the whole area for comparatively low numbers, though, but not that surprising at the moment

Their population is only around 20k so 30 cases in 7 days equates to 150 per 100,000 which is in line with Glasgow. Back to earlier comments about Faslane and A&B versus the potential for Faslane style outbreaks all over Glasgow all the time.

Don't think there is an indication that the outbreak is in a carehome - they've been closed because that is where highest risk of casualty from spread would be. Just skimmed the BBC article but it seemed to be implying wider community (?)

@NotAnActualSheep, indeed.
MPs are not simply proxy (like great electors in the American election), nor do they have to subjugate themselves to the will of the whips. In short, they are our representatives, so they act on our behalf for the common good (well, in theory, at least).

@Dinnafashyersel that's not good for Shetland. It could spread so quickly there as they're allowed in each other's houses.
Worse than Argyll as they are such a small close knit community.

I agree on infection control too - one of the worst things about this pandemic for me is that we haven't been able to keep people safe in our hospitals from covid. Something wrong with how we are doing hospitals, and/or how does it compare to people catching covid in hospital across the world?

Will take a while to find this answer as it's not a political issue as such, more about how we have arranged our healthcare.

The grown up thing to do isn't to continue being a protest party. The SNP should want brexit resolved ASAP so that the economy can recover as far as it can and then they can reconsider independence.

Instead the SNP act like beserkers who think maximum brexit chaos boosts their case. They may be politically right but it's hardly responsible governing.

@Dinnafashyersel

It does seem harsh to lockdown the whole area for comparatively low numbers, though, but not that surprising at the moment

Their population is only around 20k so 30 cases in 7 days equates to 150 per 100,000 which is in line with Glasgow. Back to earlier comments about Faslane and A&B versus the potential for Faslane style outbreaks all over Glasgow all the time.

Don't think there is an indication that the outbreak is in a carehome - they've been closed because that is where highest risk of casualty from spread would be. Just skimmed the BBC article but it seemed to be implying wider community (?)

You're right (as usual!) I'd misread the BBC article on skim reading it this morning. It doesn't imply the care home was affected. 150 per 100,000 is the threshold for entering level 3 according to the original proposals (long since abandoned) but yes, that is higher than the current Scottish average, and on a par with other level 4 areas.

The dashboard has been updated to cover the past few days (around 6000 cases since Thursday which is around 1500 ish per day, so slightly higher than previously) and there does seem to be a slight increase in hospitalisation and so on. Wonder if that is the new spready "I can't believe it's not covid" covid, or just a general increase due to pre Christmas, pre level 4 stuff?

I think the SNP really aren't acting like berserkers @anon444877
I know we have all been drinking more this year but I doubt Nicola and John Swinney have been on the toadstools and now rampaging.

Haha! I don't know, iskwobel. It may explain quite a few recent political decisions if there had been some giant cross-party acid rave... Can't say NS and JS would have been my first guesses for who'd be involved in that though.

Sorry. ikswobel. Name error.

Highest amount of daily cases today. But that will be a backlog from the holidays. 1895 cases

@ikswobel, haven't they? What else have they been doing?
OK, JS was too busy looking miserable and inept, but NS?
Out of interest, what about the totally unplanned and unexpected furore over the £500 gift? That hadn't been planned at all, had it?

@Arkadia Pleased to see you at least credit NS with some capacity for partying!
Berserker is too funny and now have some extreme mental imagery

% of positive tests is up quite a bit...12% last couple of days, 14% today