Tiery Weary & Crackers!

[Bikingbear]

As a carry on from the last thread

@StatisticallyChallenged such an invaluable service to those who use it, it's not fair.

@lidfix,
Actually I think that the usforthem lot ARE pretty reasonable, however you cannot be held responsible for all the conspiracy theorist under the sun.

I do not get the logic behind informal childcare being allowed but nurseries and OOSC closed. So I can rope in my elderly great-aunt or I can see if the neighbour I’ve spoken to twice in my life can take my children, but I can’t leave them in a safe, regulated childcare setting with non-vulnerable professional staff?

And even informal childcare is only allowed ‘if it’s essential and you have no other option’, which makes it sound like they think there are legions of working parents with young kids who could easily do both but just don’t want to be arsed.

AgentCooper my DD1 is staying in Halls. The Uni had all sorts of things planned to support them. Loads of them will likely be banned with tier 4 restrictions. I am on constant standby in case they close the Halls again or she has a major wobble and needs rescuing (so far she has actually been thriving and there is a certain amount of extra comradery-however she is a pretty robust 3rd year with a strong family support network at the end of the phone).

The students have all been practically tested to death already and not a "case" to be found among them.

Absolute lunacy.

If they don't get the schools back I don't see how they can justify phased return of Uni students.

Also their Twitter stuff today is still referring people to ParentClub.scot for more information, except ParentClub hasn’t been updated, is still promising people that schools and childcare stay open in level 4, and was to be honest fairly useless at the best of times. (Yes that’s all I need to support ‘online learning’, ParentClub! Some excitement!)

Parent club pops up on my Facebook to provide some fake bot empathy about how hard it all is, and here are 10 tips for how to enjoy the good times by eating vegetables.

ParentClub is the website equivalent of your sister who doesn’t have any children but has watched Supernanny a few times and doesn’t understand why parents are making it all sound so complicated.

Exactly! And you're like 'I need an actual break mate, some sleep would be nice and not more time consuming advice about standing on one leg and pretending to be Mary Poppins.

would we get Morrison deliveries through Amazon Prime. Not sure they are in every area but can do it in some areas of Scotland.

@GoldenOmber

ParentClub is the website equivalent of your sister who doesn’t have any children but has watched Supernanny a few times and doesn’t understand why parents are making it all sound so complicated.

Nailed it! Some of the suggestions are hilarious, like yeah my kids have missed halloween and won't see family or friends at christmas but it's fine we'll cut some vegetables up to make the shape of a christmas tree and it'll all be forgotten

Can I just dispel the myth that unis are a hotbed of undiagnosed covid. Yes there were cases when students arrived but numbers dropped very quickly and the unis were monitoring active cases (i.e. people who had a positive covid and were isolating) and at it's height there were only 100 or so at the large uni DP works at. He got daily updates and the numbers have been minimal for weeks. Most students have been acting extremely responsibly

ParentClub’s commercially useless advice might be the only thing that gets me through January. If only so I can vow to hunt them down like that Liam Neeson film.

Was it ParentClub who ran the radio advert about getting your children off video games by suggesting they draw a poster?

I am not a parent and I freely admit I have no clue about child raising but even I found it excruciatingly patronising 🙈

Comedically useless! Although probably commercially useless as well if you’re trying to keep your business going while explaining to your 9-month-old that they can’t come in your corner of the room.

I think I've seen the Christmas vegetable post too @StatisticallyChallenged there are many veg themed ones though. As for finding a quiet corner...

The quiet corner where the toddlers gravitate to 😂🤦‍♀️

The spend quality time with family

Sitting on a park bench in November. Quality

@GoldenOmber

ParentClub is the website equivalent of your sister who doesn’t have any children but has watched Supernanny a few times and doesn’t understand why parents are making it all sound so complicated.

Yip. I want to punch that woman on the radio with the fucking peas. Everything about her grates her snobby voice, the way she talks down to people, 'in our house we call them footballs' Really!!!

I can't actually go reading any of it. Do they think we are thick? Arrrr!

My poor mum sounded so down on the phone last night. I thought she was going to cry. So yes my childcare is essential and Yes it essential that my mum has people around her. She even said she doesn't care if she gets the virus and dies. 😭

at parent club. Clearly never been anywhere near a child.

but what i want to shout is

JUST CALL IT LEVEL 5

And as sure as night follows day:
Peston tweeting out his source that the new super spready strain spreads much more readily in children. Therefore schools likely shut for foreseeable

(fwiw) my friend with the large blended family has 7 DC. All but one tested positive from the base case (the errant gf kissing teenager) and 3 out of 4 adults too. No-one got properly ill (worst was a temp overnight and a cough).

Teenage base case would never have suspected he had it (was just a bit tired). He only got tested in solidarity with his gf. She only got tested because one of her parents tested positive through routine workplace testing.

Why I think t&t&i was always a complete waste of effort.

The issue has never been whether people test positive and carry the virus but whether/when they carry it in sufficient viral load to cause severe symptomatic illness in others. Imho THE SCIENCE has no idea what the answer to this is. Super spready even with PPE is a complete contradiction of the current strategy around masks, SD, Covid secure etc. Given the spread despite measures it is far from clear that Covid-19 has not been any less spready than any other respiratory virus all along. Which makes ALL the measures, including the current restrictions, look like a monumental waste of time.

Loving the views on ParentClub - thought it was just me.

@WouldBeGood is there a community Facebook page where your dad lives?
We have a volunteer group which was set up during lockdown 1 that will do food shop, collect prescriptions, provide a meal on Xmas day etc

Might be worth a shot?

Parent Club piss me off as I’m classed alongside a babysitter and informal childcare. 😡
I’m employed, qualified and work my butt off! They clearly have no idea what I actually do day to day!

Also says on their page that children should go to care provider not other way round. Yes that would invalidate my insurance for starters, I’m not a childminder so have no toys or facilities available. It’s a joke.

Can anyone link to the details about childcare on the gov website. I can’t find it, can never navigate that site for some reason.

@WouldBeGood our local co-op started deliveries if he’s got one local?

I mentioned upthread that our daughter had to go back in hospital last week as after her op she contracted an infection.
She is still in and there taking about home Tuesday/Wednesday. We are looking after our 2yr old granddaughter meantime. Her DH is emergency services first day off after/if she gets home, will be 27/12.
We are having her come here when she’s is discharged, it’s allowed due to careing? What about her DH?
We’ve a mind to have him here when she’s home. He’ll be working 12 hrs p/day mainly eat and sleep here.
No way is it fair to split a young family with the current tiers.
Don’t know what I’m asking just so sad and angry atm.

Just as an update, my boyfriend's flight to spend a few days with me at Christmas (both single households, technically each other's support bubble as we see no one else etc so was fine under the initial rules) has been cancelled as the airline is only operating a small "emergency" schedule following Nicola's announcement and my city in the UK isn't on it.

I haven't gotten out of bed since they made the announcement last night. Just devastated. The thought of seeing him for a few days was the only thing keeping me going through all this loneliness and utter shite time I've been having at work etc. We will be moving into our new house together in the new year sometime but the thought of not seeing him for another few months is unbearable. I had made little plans for our Christmas just the two of us and instead I'll just be here on my own missing him desperately. Astounded at the mishandling of this.

And frankly I'm also starting to worry this will affect our house move (I know house moves were allowed in the past but now they are actually cancelling flights) and we'll end up being apart for even longer. Can't see through the fog of despair atm.