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This is an ongoing thread for Scottish mumsnetters - or indeed non Scottish mumsnetters such as myself, to comment on ongoing covid matters pertinent to ourselves, in a hopefully not too partisan and friendly fashion.

Could you make 2m gin decanter too please? I'd have more use for that.

You know that English thing - yard of ale.
Can they make 2m long ones ?

That's exactly what I was referring to! A sturgeon of gin!

@titsbumfannythelot

That's exactly what I was referring to! A sturgeon of gin!

🤣🤣🤣

(Although, isn’t that technically no gin at all?🤔)

Sorry, should have said Sturgin!

@Dinnafashyersel that's interesting your dd is getting face to face. We where supposed to but then it changed. Mine completely online. It is a tech course right enough but it is hard going.

The roast potatoes stuff is madness. I don't post often but agree it is a refreshing thread. Many different views but everyone just doing their best.

Don't tend to have many folk for Christmas anyway just my DM so it's fine for us but I can officially state I won't make her sit behind a Perspex screen 😂 that thread is batshit

I’ve also just seen carol singing is to be allowed in England🙌🏻
We* can’t do that here.

*looks for loophole as not born here.

@titsbumfannythelot

Sorry, should have said Sturgin!

🤣 that’s the one. Go TM it right now!

@Bytheloch

I’ve also just seen carol singing is to be allowed in England🙌🏻 We* can’t do that here.

*looks for loophole as not born here.

I'm not a big church goer (I get bored half way through the service) but this will only be about the 3rd year I won't be at the Midnight service since I was about 11.

My DS was telling me about the nativity at school this year. Apparently it will just be songs with each class recording them separately and then it'll all be put together for the parents to watch. I said "so is there anything else or just singing songs?" He looked at me in disgust and said "SINGING? We're playing instruments! You're not allowed to sing!"

It is quite nice though to have a recorded nativity as you can watch it with them - my dd loves this. And it saves the risk of being deafened by faulty sound systems as happened last year!

I'm sad about the carol service - last year I went to a theatre show with just carols with my dd, was lovely.

Similar at my DS school Christmas. 'Digital' nativity being put together for the parents. DS was showing me the 'actions' to Away in a Manger and when I said it was nice he had learned a new song, he looked agast and said 'oh no, signing isn't allowed in school, we only do the actions along with song being played on the smart board'. This is P1 - 20 odd kids that spend all day in very close proximity and probably still lick stuff/sneeze all over each other anyway

Ours has the P1s doing the nativity. Which will be shown to the other classes or something.

Just depressing.

@WaxOnFeckOff

Santa (so not Father Christmas) will dump your present of duster, hand sanitiser and personal gravy boat by the door and take a photo to evidnce he's left it there. less presents for everyone as he can only have 6 reindeer.

Ha! Love this!

I don't reckon "Monti" (if that is his name) actually exists. On the grounds that his handwriting in the "original" letter is far, far too neat. Or DS is a total handwriting disaster zone

Love the crackers thread too! Good call titsbum

dinnafash So glad your DD is having an OK time in halls. I do feel sorry for students in that situation, but at least she gets on with her hall mates and it sounds as if it's less chaotic than earlier.

DH works at the uni and gets an update on the number of cases (staff and students) and at the moment there are ten. Out of 35,000 ish students and more staff. More likely to catch it in Sainsburys! If thousands of asymptomatic student cases come out of the woodwork during mass testing, when there are so few "known" cases and community symptomatic cases are stable or falling across Scotland it may suggest that actually, we have less to worry about than we thought...

Incidentally, DH is getting harassed by his union (UCU) to petition that "all teaching that can be, moves online". At the moment, his department is doing "hybrid learning" which is a mixture of pre-recorded short lectures, live interactive sessions (using ipads that all first year students were given in week 1 preloaded with stuff so they can interact) and workshops that are either in person or online (at the students choice) ... so this would mean taking away the option of having in-person teaching for students that want it. This, compared to 2 years ago, when the union were ranting about lecture recording being brought in, meaning all lecturers would be replaced with videos of themselves. Not sure they are really thinking this through...online is good for some things, and some students prefer it for some aspects, but to have it as the only option, for everyone, is a bit of a slippery slope if the Halls of Darkness of Uni Finance realise that there's ways of cutting teaching staff by increasing online content.

Ds's p1 aren't doing a nativity, just a class party. Although they might not be doing anything at all as he's now self isolating for a fortnight.

@titsbumfannythelot

That's exactly what I was referring to! A sturgeon of gin!

Snigger!!

I'll miss them all dressed up in the their nativity costumes, I love that. This year they've to bring their own tea towel 😂

Agree @NotAnActualSheep I don't think the union have thought this through, I can see distinct advantages to students of being able to have more content online, and to uni finance cost cutters but more online content will increase the pressure on tuition fee rebates and then teaching and admin staff will end up in the firing line.

If we accept in person learning is best for children, why is it ok for all online content for students? Adults learn more effectively online than kids but if remote learning for adults was so effective why bother with bricks and mortar universities at all? Slippery slope.

@Bytheloch

I’ve also just seen carol singing is to be allowed in England🙌🏻 We* can’t do that here.

*looks for loophole as not born here.

Whaaaat. No fair....

Churches (well, any places of worship) are limited to 50 here, even in tier 0...or 20 in tier 4. And that's if you can social distance. AND NO COMMUNAL SINGING. Our church has a single singer behind a plexiglass screen. We normally have a choir, but that's not allowed because it is too joyful. The children are allowed to practice and be recorded but not sing in public. The adults have been made redundant apart from 4 I think, and they can sing together (for recording), but not with the children. Apparently they had a bugler to play the last post at the remembrance day service, but he had to stand outside to play because he'd be spreading covid germs through his blowing. All rather joyless.

DS isn't allowed to sing at school either ... he's quite pleased because he thinks his classmates are too loud. He's such a critic.

@WaxOnFeckOff

I also wonder about the effects on young people of the decisions we are displaying to follow the rules by the letter and also the decision to not follow.

Could be seen as positive and negative, the decision to disobey when you don't agree.

This is interesting @WaxOnFeckOff. DS was asking who’d be in the resistance, like there was in France, in any occupation. We then discussed it using the current situation and decided I would as I’d rather be dead than oppressed. And I am not good with authority, especially mindless.

He was a bit more scared of being shot 😂

I’ve just seen that even in England’s highest tier retail and gyms are still allowed to be open. Happy for them down south but what the fuck is Sturgeon doing? Are they not reading the same ‘science’ then?

Sheep the unions really haven't thought that through. I for one am useless at listening to stuff on line. It becomes background noise that I'm not really paying attention too. Maybe students are better at engaging.

But from a Uni point of view, If you have a pre-recorded lectures then their is nothing stopping the university reusing the same recording for next year and the year after that.
Who remembers mid 80s laughing at the OU lecturers on the telly in what you now realise was 70s fashion?

Here's the other thing, not only is it cheaper for Uni to do distance learning. It would be cheaper for students too. No halls to pay for.

@AgentCooper I’m starting to think it suits the SG to have the population fat and unfit

Fat, unfit and on the broo!

Why were soft plays never allowed to reopen?

@Bikingbear

Fat, unfit and on the broo!

Why were soft plays never allowed to reopen?

Cos none of the people making the decisions have been stuck in the house with young kids in the pissing rain with no swimming pools etc open.