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October Becomes November Lockdown

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BlueThursday · 21/10/2020 13:01

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waitforitwaitforit · 24/10/2020 11:35

What did she say about guiding? My DH mentioned it yesterday but I couldn't find any mention.

waitforitwaitforit · 24/10/2020 11:35

Gah. Guising.

WaxOnFeckOff · 24/10/2020 11:43

Taken from STV news:

The Scottish government has told families celebrating Halloween to avoid guising this year or risk spreading Covid-19.

Children dressing up as their favourite characters and going to door to door looking for treats has been an annual tradition for generations.

However, the Deputy First Minister says the move is necessary to ensure current restrictions on gatherings are adhered to.

In a statement released on Saturday John Swinney said: “I know guising is a big part of Halloween and children will be sad to miss out, but as door-to-door guising brings an additional and avoidable risk of spreading the virus, our clear advice for families is to avoid it.

I just can't believe the mindset that thinks that it's up to the government to decide whether kids go guising - this is what we have to look forward to if Scexit ever happens folks, virus or no virus.

Arkadia · 24/10/2020 11:44

@WaxOnFeckOff, amen!

Rae36 · 24/10/2020 11:56

I am really stressing about guising. Our usual rule is that you can go to houses with decorations outside. I want to let the kids go anyway, does the same rule apply? Or should I just ban them from going? What if I stop mine going and we have lots of kids turning up at our door? Mine will be really sad.
I don't want to not put a pumpkin out, life is miserable enough. But I can't have kids coming to my door and not let mine go out.

And its on a Saturday, and it's probably the last year the older ones will go.

I'm so pissed off. Not with the rules, I sort of understand the rules, I'm just pissed off with life.

WaxOnFeckOff · 24/10/2020 12:06

Rae, that was our rule, go to the decorated houses and leave other folks in peace.

If it was me, i'd let mine go and be happy for folk to come.

However, not everyone will be like that but presume same rules apply, i.e. a decorated house will either have stuff outside, be happy for folk to knock or will put out a note saying something like "enjoy the decorations but no guisers please"

Why don't you let yours dress up and just see how things pan out? If you get folk then being dressed up to answer the door will be good anyway and if it looks worthwhile, yours can go out as they are already ready?

rookiemere · 24/10/2020 12:24

Oh no am in Scotland and bought huge supplies from the Cadbury outlet at Gretna for Halloween. What on earth can I do with all those spare Celebrations and Roses .
Plonks mildly unwell self - sore throat, temperature just within normal, no cough - onto sofa and starts unwrapping.

WaxOnFeckOff · 24/10/2020 12:39

ha ha, rookie, hopefully no-one will buy into that pile of shite and you'll have plenty visitors so don't eat them all.

As folk are pointing out, these are the kids that have to be in school every day, are going to cubs/brownies and other activities and the suggestion that because a tiny fraction of people have an illness that most people have mild or no symptoms from they shouldn't go guising is moronic.

It's not compulsory, no-one is forcing folk to take part/open their door etc.

It's the ones who go on about saving lives that do my head in. Saving which lives? Certainly not the folk missing out on cancer diagnosis and treatment, those walking in front of trains etc.

The vast majority of those dying already have a DNR as they are too elderly or ill or have little quality of life. People with dementia are suffering also as their routines and contacts were taken away. A friends poor dad thinks everyone is annoyed with him and he can't work out what he has done to upset them. Yes some others have also died "with covid" and we still have no idea if it was from covid. The PCR tests are next to useless so that is another way that the figures are flawed.

It is really sad when people die, I have lost many family members and friends to all sorts of illnesses, diseases and accidents. But it's also a fact of life and being restricted and controlled in this way to me isn't a life I want to live.

anyway, now that i've wound everyone up i'll get off my soapbox and go collect my shopping.

rookiemere · 24/10/2020 13:51

No no @WaxOnFeckOff , I can't run the infinitesimally small chance that touching prewrapped sweeties might present to our young. Incidentally did you know that there are now Dairy Milks in Roses - or it might be a Gretna thing, who knows ?

I mean the fact that it would be possible to do Halloween completely safely so at least DCs could go out with a DP and the sweets could be put at a safe distance, surely this would be considered as an option to suggest, rather than just forget about it.

It makes me feel so sad as DS was such a great Halloween enthusiast in his day, but I suspect the people making the decision aren't overly fond of trick or treating in a Presbyterian disapproval of begging for treats type way, so that helps to make the decision.

I don't think there will be many out round here, as although everyone has there little acts of disobedience, generally we're quite a law abiding bunch.

WouldBeGood · 24/10/2020 14:17

@rookiemere selfless 😃

Bikingbear · 24/10/2020 14:18

Rae I feel the same as you do. Do you decorate for the kids to do a pumpkin trail, or will it be read that you want guisers?

Some folks in my area are saying they plan on leaving a basket of sweets outside. I'm just really not sure what to do.

Guising is so deep in Scottish culture that I can't see any churches actually being against it. It was the church that taught me that it was Hallows Eve, All Saints day etc.

WouldBeGood · 24/10/2020 14:20

Don’t know if anyone is near Glasgow, but we’re planning to go to Glasgow again this year, if it’s still allowed.

It was fun last year, so much so that DS12 has agreed to come again!

WaxOnFeckOff · 24/10/2020 14:23

Glasgow? Glasgow is it? I'll give you Glasgow, bloody covid soup down there... Grin

WouldBeGood · 24/10/2020 14:26

Glasglow Covid soup is what I’m immersing myself and my child in

WouldBeGood · 24/10/2020 14:26

😂

WaxOnFeckOff · 24/10/2020 14:29

I was joking btw just in case you thought I was slagging you off?

I'm originally from Edinburgh so have my own Glasgow hang ups but in this case, Glasgow, like students are in general doing society a favour by spreading it amongst the healthy. I know that people get angry and I understand that they are worried and upset and want to shield and they should be allowed to, the rest of us could be doing our bit for the economy.

WouldBeGood · 24/10/2020 14:49

@WaxOnFeckOff no worries, I realised joking!

I am an east coaster but loving Glasgow now I live near it and have been out and about. When it was allowed 😃

WaxOnFeckOff · 24/10/2020 14:53

I'll need to whisper now, but I still don't like it...:o It's technically closer and quicker to get to on the train from where we are now, but I never really enjoy going. Shhhh don't tell anyone....

rookiemere · 24/10/2020 15:11

I'm intrigued now, what do they normally do in Glasgow for Halloween that's so good ?

Disclaimer- I'm actually from Norn Ireland originally. Came to Edinburgh for uni - worked in Glasgow for an odd few months as a graduate trainee for Abbey National- struggled to understand people sometimes and couldn't figure out why they kept calling me hen Grin. Moved back to Edinburgh when I could.

WaxOnFeckOff · 24/10/2020 15:15

I think @WouldBeGood was talking about GlasGlow but it autocorrected. I saw another thread or I would be none the wiser too.

WouldBeGood · 24/10/2020 15:32

Yes, autocorrect for Glasglow 😃I was pleasantly surprised with it last year.

WouldBeGood · 24/10/2020 15:33

@WaxOnFeckOff It’s okay – I won’t tell anyone. I have to say that my head has been turned by DP introducing me to the delights Off the West End with cocktails and nice places to eat

WaxOnFeckOff · 24/10/2020 15:35

That is definitely the genteel bit. I've been for a few meals in the area and did the Glasgow Uni tour with DS. He turned Glasgow down for Strathclyde though. I think the main reason was because Strathclyde was closer to the train station...

WaxOnFeckOff · 24/10/2020 15:39

Obviously I logically know that there are innumerable lovely places and many lovely people and things. But I just never feel at home or comfortable - Not really much i can do about it other than more regular exposure I guess. It's not a big city thing either. I love Liverpool and Manchester and London, I don't feel the same about Dundee or any of the other Scottish cities either. I'm sure Glasgow has enough people who love it and don't need me to swell the ranks though so I'm sure they won't be crying in their ginger :)

fluffyugg · 24/10/2020 15:48

I see Jason Leitch was talking about the tiers earlier suggesting that the Central Belt would be tier 3 (very high) and North and South of that would be tier 2 (high) I don't think all of the places N and S of the CB have high levels? I had thought level 1 might go to some of the areas as that would be 'medium'. If this turns out to be the case next week then it changes absolutely nothing for anyone...

This is what he said...'But roughly speaking, the central belt Glasgow, Edinburgh, Ayrshire and Arran, that strip across the middle, where 3.5m of Scots live, that would be tier three and roughly, north and south of that - tier two."

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