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Nicola Sturgeon cracks me up.

234 replies

Merename · 30/06/2020 17:16

Just read an excerpt from her address today. I know not all of you will love her and I don’t think coronavirus has been handled perfectly, but she is an intelligent and likeable example of Scottish people, imo. I love the way she is dignified and avoids politicising everything, yet still is direct enough to comment on how ridiculous Boris can be:

Tom Gordon, from The Herald, points out that, in the prime minister's speech this morning, Boris Johnson emphasised the role of the union, calling it "an incredible partnership" that proved its worth during the pandemic. He asks what the first minister's response is considering she would like Scotland to be independent.

"Boris Johnson and I are very different kinds of people, very different personalities and I would, in a whole range of ways, choose not to emulate him and how he speaks and how he behaves and I'm sure he would choose not to emulate me in many respects," Nicola Sturgeon replies.

"I don't think you'll catch me very often leaping to the floor to do press-ups during a media interview, for example.

"In terms of the wider and future arguments about Scotland's constitutional future, people will make their own minds up on that and draw their own conclusions and part of the process they will go through is watching how the Scottish government conducts itself and how Boris Johnson conducts himself.

"My focus is on tackling this virus and any leader should have that as their central focus."

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rwalker · 04/07/2020 08:10

Don't like the way she uses England as a guinea pig lets us go first then if not a success sits back with I told you so .
She's always few weeks behind lets England take the risk and critisium .

nextslideplease · 04/07/2020 09:21

I'm descended from Robert the Bruce btw. Another reason why I know so much about independence, Scottish History and Politics.

Yet my parents and I voted Conservative. I do not like Boris but he was the best of a bad bunch. Starmer is looking promising though so maybe I'll return to Labour in the next Scottish elections. I consider myself centre-left on the political spectrum.

I've already mentioned that on the other side of the family I'm part Irish and German. we lost family to the Nazis and to the IRA and as such could never vote for nationalism or an antisemtic leader.

lets be pals

I have many pals who are SNP voters. They have the sense to keep their views to themselves, as I do I, in RL and so we get along just fine.

Drivingdownthe101 · 04/07/2020 09:25

We seriously contemplated moving to Scotland last year, DH does a lot of work in Edinburgh and was travelling up there weekly pre Covid. We absolutely adore the city. When it came down to it, the strong anti English sentiment put us off, unfortunately.
I am a leftie remainer. The Tory ‘culture’ is not something I identify with at all.
Anyway, back to the drawing board.

MumofHunter · 04/07/2020 09:34

Nextslideplease You voted for a party whose mandate was to leave the EU - leave the union set up to allow the peace and political alignment of countries post war ...🤔

anon444877 · 04/07/2020 09:50

@Drivingdownthe101 twice I’ve been asked in the last year where I’m from and what it is like in my country. I was under the impression Scotland was my country. Not to mention the othering of other left wingers in the UK by the SNP.

Agree re tory culture, the last election was strange as labour’s position on brexit was all over the place.

Arkadia · 04/07/2020 09:50

@MumofHunter, while your party voted for canasta tournaments and flower beds, I take it.
In case you haven't noticed, the SNP, UKIP or the Brexit party are one and the same as their share a dogmatic separatist agenda.

WaxOnFeckOff · 04/07/2020 10:14

Maybe brexit voters just wanted a chance to control their own destiny and celebrate their unique culture seperate from being ruled by people they didn't elect, oh wait...

nextslideplease · 04/07/2020 10:23

I voted against Brexit, then I wanted a soft brexit, then I just wanted Brexit bloody done because I was so sick of it.

The other parties were all over the place on Brexit, including the SNP, and just trying to either reverse it (not possible) or delay it (at the voters detriment).

If eg labour had a clearer message, and lib dem were not trying to get the impossible - maybe I would have voted for them.

The growing nationalism in Europe is very alarming and much worse than you try (in a sneaky round about way) to say it is in England. It is particularly bad in Germany where I remind you I have family living, yet yes I voted Tory.

I had friends from Wales visiting and they felt very intimidated by all the flag waving and people demanding to know if they were 'English'. Its awful. I also have an English friend who gets repeatedly told to "fuck off back home".

Drivingdownthe101 · 04/07/2020 10:31

I had friends from Wales visiting and they felt very intimidated by all the flag waving and people demanding to know if they were 'English'. Its awful. I also have an English friend who gets repeatedly told to "fuck off back home"

Exactly why we decided against moving there. DH actually isn’t English, but has spent long enough there that he has an English accent so in the course of his work he is subject to a lot of the same attitudes.

sashagabadon · 04/07/2020 15:19

[quote Arkadia]@MumofHunter, while your party voted for canasta tournaments and flower beds, I take it.
In case you haven't noticed, the SNP, UKIP or the Brexit party are one and the same as their share a dogmatic separatist agenda.[/quote]
I think this too.
There are huge paralells between the snp wanting independance from the uk and Westminster and brexiteers wanting independence from the eu and brussels.
Nigel farrage and nicola sturgeon are two sides of the same coin.
Both arguments are the exact same.
If we were still in th EU, nigel, boris et al would be happily blaming covid mistakes as much as possible on Brussels ( whilst much of the uk response is actually devolved to us, health schools etc) whilst minimising any eu assistance, just like nicola is doing ( where actually much of scotland's response is devolved to scotland) and minimising any westminster help.
It's just politics

nextslideplease · 04/07/2020 18:57

Just seen the tweets about Berwick Road.

Proves my point again.

Arkadia · 04/07/2020 19:23

@nextslideplease, huh?

nextslideplease · 04/07/2020 19:27

quite a number of flag wearing scots at the border, by the road, posting videos telling the English to "fuck off home" and calling themselves border control.

SockYarn · 04/07/2020 19:29

quite a number of flag wearing scots at the border, by the road, posting videos telling the English to "fuck off home" and calling themselves border control.

Really? What an embarrassment.

SockYarn · 04/07/2020 19:30

www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/stay-fk-away-convoy-scottish-nationalists-attempt-blockade-english-border-2904148

Dearie me. Not a brain cell among them. But oh no, the nationalists aren't anti-English. Hmm

Arkadia · 04/07/2020 19:34

Oh dear...

KaronAVyrus · 04/07/2020 19:36

It’s the new, caring civic nationalism that tells people to “fuck off home” 🙄

WaxOnFeckOff · 04/07/2020 19:45

I'd arrest the lot of them, lock them up and throw away the key.

Any supporters want to come and defend that shite?

FUBARFlossie · 04/07/2020 19:48

It’s the new, caring civic nationalism that tells people to “fuck off home” 🙄

The same caring nationalism that told me, a born and bred Scot, that "they would allow me to stay" (in Scotland) when they win the independence vote, even though I voted no. Chilling thought.

SockYarn · 04/07/2020 19:53

It's indefensible. Anyone who has been on one of All Under One Banner marches is condoning this shite.

Prison with no key too good for them. Public stocks would be appropriate.

WaxOnFeckOff · 04/07/2020 20:01

I hate all flag waving nationalism. I also hate that they have stolen the St Andrews cross as it's not only theirs.

My boys used to have Saltire rugby shirts, they were great as you could spot them for miles when we were out and about, now i am ashamed that they wore them and I don't like the photos of them in them.

SockYarn · 04/07/2020 20:06

I hear you on the Saltire thing. They've hijacked it as their nationalist symbol and it;s tainted.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 04/07/2020 21:26

quite a number of flag wearing scots at the border, by the road, posting videos telling the English to "fuck off home" and calling themselves border control.

Has Nicola Sturgeon condemned this yet? She really needs to because her rhetoric of the last few days is fueling this shite, and emboldening those who harbor anti-English sentiments to pull stunts like this. Absolutely disgraceful and a national embarrassment.

WaxOnFeckOff · 04/07/2020 21:40

I honestly don't believe for a minute that this is behaviour she wants (despite the fact I'm obviously not a fab), it's actually quite difficult for her as she needs these lunatics to vote for her and for independence despite their odious behaviour and beliefs. It will soon be whitewashed.

The standard play for anything they don't want to deal with is to declare that a big boy did it and then ran away.

I'm sure this will soon be sold as anti SNP supporters pretending to be SNP just to embarrass them...Hmm

SockYarn · 04/07/2020 22:50

Hamza Yousaf has sent out a very strong tweet condemning them. Good on him.