Change Notre Dame High School from girls only

[Glasgowlassie]

I have 2 children, currently at Notre Dame Primary in Glasgow. I have only just discovered, due to a recent campaign that my son and daughter will not be able to go to the same High School.

Girls are enrolled into Notre Dame High School, an all girls high school, this is state funded and a total anomaly, the only one of its kind in Scotland. My daughter must go there unless I can get her into another local school via a placing request, becoming increasingly difficult in the West End.

My son has to go to the linked school 3 miles away, St Thomas Aquinas, if I can't get him into another school which is closer.

Over 75% of the girls in this girls only school come from a distance via placing request. So this has an impact on the local community and the environment.

There is a campaign to change this which is how I became aware that my children would not even be allowed to go to St Thomas Aquinas without a placing request for my daughter.

In 2018 there is no place for an all girls school as it is discriminatory. Schools should serve their local area first.

Campaign is here for anyone that is interested and wants to help change it. Particularly people from Glasgow.

www.ndh4all.net

k2p2k2tog - the example you are using is not the same at all? In fact it is the opposite. We are not asking for placing requests to go out of catchment. We are arguing to attend our catchment school? I thought schools were meant to serve their local community?

All children should be able to go to their local school. There should be no religious or single sex state funded school. Glasgow still has a huge underlying sectarian problem (people just aren't as open about it) and splitting up local kids at 4 and 5 to Catholic and non denom school is just telling them at a young age they are different.

I think folk are open about the sectarianism,that’s the problem.its out there
Agree that mc West Enders probably better conceal their sectarianism nuances
Class and sectarianism are big deals in Glasgow,Lanarkshire,and west coast

No Lego - the OP was quite clear that in her area if you opt for a RC primary in Glasgow, then your catchment secondary is the corresponding RC high - she corrected me on that matter. So OP put her children into a RC primary without proper research as her OP says she has only "recently become aware" of the issue. She is now bemoaning the fact that they will be separated for secondary because the girl would go to Notre Dame and the boy elsewhere. Then complaning about the fact she wouldn't get them into Hyndland on placing request.

She should have known. She chose not to find out. Even though she's protesting that it's not about her, and it's about single sex education in general, the truth is that her decisions are coming back to bite her.

Norte dame is single sex,the coed high school is TA 3mile away
The information is documented,available and known to majority of parents
The Glasgow school system is catchment & feeder schools grant a place
Any unfilled places are allocated via placement request, this isn’t a right or automatic
Popular schools are oversubscribed with placement request

Fraying where are you with those study links? I'm starting to suspect you made it up 😉

Is the problem that TA isn't considered a very good school?
I was looking at schools in the area last year and didn't even consider it as we are an atheist family but I didn't get a good vibe from what people were saying.
I was lucky to get Dd into Hyndland, but I'm wondering if the Op would have the same issue if Hyndland was the school for boys coming from NDPS?
Of course that would never be the case though, given its secular and OP chose a religious school
Do parents not chat about this stuff at the school gates?

(I am unusual in that I moved Dd in S5 and I'm miles out of catchment, not even in the same County)

I can’t believe you dont have automatic access to your non-Dom Catchment school. We are having a severe catchment issue where I live (also Scotland) and whilst we have absolutely no chance of getting in our catchment (non-Dom) high school, we were informed we could automatcally have a place at our catchment catholic school if we wanted it. No placing request required. You must also be in catchment for a non-Dom school?

You must also be in catchment for a non-Dom school?

This is the point I made pages back as I know lots of parents who opted for RC primary and then transferred their kids into the local non-denominational catchment secondary.

OP says no, Glasgow assumes that if you opt for RC primary then you are opting out of having a non-denominational seconary catchment and that your catchment secondary is the RC one. Or ones, in the case of Notre Dame for girls and elsewhere for boys. OP states that opting back into her non denominational secondary would require a placing request.

That's not how it works here, but OP assures us all that Glasgow city council has its own rules.

Op could have sent her kids to hyndland.she chose nd instead without checking the onward high school
TA is jordanhill which is a good area. It’s a large RC. mixed school drawing from a wide socioeconomic base eg drumchapel,scotstoun,knightswood with range of social backgrounds and kids who receive free school meals.

I don't actually agree with state religious or same sex schools but then I'd never have chosen either, and didn't.
At one point the Catholic Primary where I am was considered the better school, I didn't send Dd there.
What I don't understand is choosing one thing because it suits you, then wanting it changed/complaining as it no longer does.

The west end school situation really is different in many ways to other parts of Scotland, I find it hard to believe the Op really didn't know any of this, I knew and I'm not there!

Op is correct the rc schools work on a feeder system.you progress to a specified RC high school
No automatic transfer to local non-denomination high school. One can request placement request however it’s not guaranteed
All the Glasgow schools info is freely available,widely known to majority parents
Op did not avail herself of the info when choosing ND and didn’t know the high school for her son would be Thomas Aquinas whist her daughter progress to Notre Dame single sex high school

Here the catchment is determined by your address, not the primary school you attend. This has caused no end of problems here as they have redrawn the primary catchments in recent years but not amended the high schools to match so you now have a primary year cohort living in primary catchment but in three different high school catchments.

In the west end the main topics are
House prices
Schools
Schools In east ren or east dunb. The dither over whether to move to burbs

Yep Lipstick
I find it hard to believe that there was never schoolgate/parent website etc chat about what you'd be doing for secondary, it's rampant in the West end! (Not a bad thing, I'd kill to live there)
There is a feeder school, it's just not necessarily the one you'd choose.

Op can put in placing requests for her DS or both of her children but the schools are full.
Difficult now, but easy when in catchment before they start, send them to the Primary that feeds into the secondary you want, and that's what Op didn't do.

Can I say I'm desperate to move to the west end, no longer interested in schools as Dd is in S5 at Hyndland and she's my only child!
House prices, nope, won't be buying, moving out, never!
Good places to eat I'm interested in

Yep you’ve nailed it
Op for what ever reason didn’t know the system,and didn’t plan her onward high school
Like you I’m genuinely surprised op didn’t know how it goes

IMO,Best place to eat or take away uni cafe byres road

Love the Uni Cafe on Byres Road. My tuppence worth.

Results for ND and TA are almost exactly the same as are the demographics of their intakes, so I don't think concern over quality of TA is the issue.

Not a fan of single sex, denominational or minority language education. Also seems very odd to be pushing all 3 in an area of the City with a shortage of school places - especially given ND is under subscribed even with out of catchment placings.

Loads of people in my area opt for denominational primary and non secondary and vice versa. The Council has also changed the catchments and built loads of houses during the last 10 years. It is not always as easy as making a decision at 5 and then living with it.

Brillo - favourites in our house are the Hanoi Bike Shop and Crolla's gelateria.

Quite like mooching around the Byres Road area but the parking alone would do my head in.

No worth parking byres rd it’s hoachin

Beanie I deliberately gave enough information in my original posts (exact wording of title etc) so you could find the links.
I'm not going to Google it for you. Consider it helpful practise for researching school info

There apparently Used to be park girls school up Lyndeoch street Charing Cross,park school conversion to flats

Our dc are at the Gaelic school. When the time came for secondary, the letter gave us the option of the Ardsgoil (secondary) at SGG or our local catchment High School, we were entitled to a place at either. I've several friends who have moved from Catholic to non-dom at High school without any problems. If, as the OP says, her dc are not entitled to a place at the local non-dom secondary, does that mean that Glasgow City Council have different rules depending what catchment it is?