If you said The Lord's Prayer at school in the '70s...

[AgentProvocateur]

Apart from weddings and funerals, I am not a churchgoer, but I was at a service today and the Lord's Prayer was said. Now, I've not said it since primary school, but it came flooding back, except I said "Forgive us our debts" as the rest of the congregation said "Forgive us our trespasses". Has it changed over the years, or was my primary school out of line with everyone else?

I've said both at different schools and different churches.

Debts and debtors for me, trespasses and those who trespass against us for DH. Which is clearly wrong

Debts and debtors for husband, trespasses and those who trespass against us for me.

Both at non-denominational state schools; early 60s to 1972 for him in Glasgow and 5 years later for me in rural Aberdeenshire.

'Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors' here. Highland C of S.

Also 'for Thine is the Kingdom, the Power and the Glory, for ever and ever Amen.

Oh yes , agreed; for ever and ever.

Debts and debtors for me (North of Scotland), also 'art in heaven'.

It was debts at school and at CoS services and trespasses in catholic services when I was at school.

Highlands of Scotland here and it was always debts and debtors. I'm sure I did hear trespasses a while ago at a funeral though, I remember thinking it sounded so odd.

East coast of Scotland, and at school in the 70s/80s and it was Debts and debtors here too (CofS)

Debts/debtors in my primary school and CoS church.

Trespasses in my Scottish non-denominational independent school.

Sins in my evangelical episcopal church.

My mum's cos church still say debts/debtors but in my dc's coe school they use trespass which then causes them much mirth as they can hear Granny loudly saying the wrong word every time!

70's/80's west coast non-denominational education & we used debts & debtors

Here in Scotland it was debts/debtors as the church of Scotland uses the King James Version of the bible, however as different Christian denominations use different versions of the bible the words will vary

Primary in Edinburgh from 74-81 and we definitely used 'debts and debtors'. Every bleddy morning.

I'll just leave this here...

Obviously my (non-denominational, non-church-linked) state juniors was a bit antiquated. Northern England, 1990s (typed in true run-on style with no thought for the meaning, as is correct for compulsory school worship):

Our father which art in heaven hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil for thine is the kingdom the power and the glory for ever and ever amen.

(Sorry for trespassing on Scotsnet )

Church of Scotland..debts. Church of England trespasses. It’s not changed it just depend where in the world you are.

I'm a Church of Scotland minister and I go with debts and debtors. But I was in another CofS church recently and they were trespassers!

This is my understanding. Im a CoS attendee we definitely say debtors

@Ninjatiger How on earth did you find a 9 year old thread to resurrect

Also glad someone started this thread as I was always confused by 'trespasses' when I was sure it was 'debts'. 80s/90s school kid.

Born early 70s, Church of Scotland Sunday school and non-dom primary in Edinburgh - always debts and debtors.

Trespass here too…to be fair I think things moved on. I was dragged to mass every Sunday until I left home in my early 20s. I went to a service a couple of years ago after never having set foot in a church in about 20 years and they’ve only gone and changed loads of the words! Felt quite the fool for standing up at the wrong bits and saying the wrong words to prayers which were just drilled into me that they came out automatically! Apparently the catholic mass was updated a few years ago (I suspect to make it easier to catch heathens like me out 😂)

Trespasses for me - URC. AlwYs made me think of cornflakes for some reason. )( absolutely no idea why!)

That was in the 70s

We had a religious divide in our family so I went to mass or Church of Scotland as a kid depending on who was around.

It was debts/debtors in CofS and the “for the kingdom, power and glory” bit.

trespasses and a truncated prayer in the Catholic Church. Inevitably one of my siblings or I would end up looking like a tit as we thundered on with the next bit.

It was "forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors" in the 90s where I was!