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Sil hasn't made contact with us for nearly a year

122 replies

silconfusion · 12/01/2023 09:54

It started off with me noticing that sil and bil never rearranged to come and meet our youngest son. He's nearly 1 now and she still hasn't met him,

She didn't attend a family weekend away for mil's 65th, nor did she attend a dinner.

She hasn't said thank you for her Christmas present from us, nor has she (nor bil for that matter) given us any presents this year. Very strange behaviour.

There have been some rumblings that they're taking some time apart or something but bil spent new year with her and her family.

Their relationship is none of my business. I'm just annoyed that she hasn't met our youngest child, and the lack of presents/thank you is really rude.

Wondering if I should contact her? But say what exactly?

OP posts:
CunTea · 12/01/2023 14:26

Sigh, no one reads a caveat these days. See what I mean about the written medium?

Holly60 · 12/01/2023 14:32

arethereanyleftatall · 12/01/2023 10:31

If ever a woman posts on here that she's fed up of wife work, it would be a unanimous 'you're not responsible for your husband families presents, he is'

So, please reframe your thinking on the present giving element op. This is 💯 on your brother.

This drip of internalised misogyny needs to stop.

I know you've updated to say both of them now following comments, but your name is just her, your title is just her, and the lack of thanks is just her, with the brother a bracketed afterthought.

I'm reading this more as the two women had a friendship. OP bought her friend (SIL) a present and invited her to come and meet her child. Her friend (SIL) didn't buy her a present in return and didn't come to meet her child.

OP is confused as to why their friendship has changed.

KettrickenSmiled · 12/01/2023 14:33

Their relationship is none of my business. I'm just annoyed that she hasn't met our youngest child, and the lack of presents/thank you is really rude.
And yet you don't comment on BiL, who is their actual uncle by blood.
Why are you blaming your SiL for your BiL's lack of interest?

Wondering if I should contact her? But say what exactly?
Why has your husband not contacted his brother, or her?
Why is this up to you?
maybe your DH & DB aren't very close.
Why do you think BiL's wife is responsible for how much contact BiL has with his brother & your DC?

If you want to contact her - do so.
As to what to say - what's the big deal? "Hi, haven't heard from you in so long, how are you both, do you want to arrange to meet".

Conversely, leave it all to your DH & BiL. but either way, stop blaming SiL for BiL's lack of contact.

Fushiadreams · 12/01/2023 14:36

Agree it makes no sense. If thr bil said thanks, if they see him often, wtf is the op going after his wife like this.

Holly60 · 12/01/2023 14:37

mindutopia · 12/01/2023 10:52

Sounds like she perhaps has a lot going on, but honestly, dh is the spokesperson for us to his family. He says thanks and arranges visits (sometimes I visit, sometimes I don't). Gosh, I hope everyone isn't going around thinking I'm a bitch because I don't do all the wife work.

It's not about wifework though surely? It's about relationships.

If I bought someone a present I would hope they would thank me for it. Even if I physically handed it to someone else to pass on it would be nice if they text me themselves.

I work with a friend's sister. If I hand a present for my friend to her sister, should I not expect her to text me to say thanks?

Equally if my MIL buys me a nice gift, I would feel awful not to buy her something in return. My husband would very possibly take charge of choosing something but I'd be checking what he'd got to make sure i thought it was a nice gift too. And if he got something I wasn't sure she'd like I'd possibly add to it. Because, you know, she thought of me so I want to think of her.

Holly60 · 12/01/2023 14:37

IhearyouClemFandango · 12/01/2023 10:55

Surely the SiL would get in touch to say thank you for her present? Which is that the OP is referring to? So bil said thanks in receipt, but normally the other person would get in touch to say thanks for theirs? I think some posters are being a little obtuse in their desire to shout wife work...

I agree with this!

Holly60 · 12/01/2023 14:40

Fushiadreams · 12/01/2023 14:36

Agree it makes no sense. If thr bil said thanks, if they see him often, wtf is the op going after his wife like this.

I don't get why it's BIL's job to say thank you for a present for his wife?

If someone sent a present to my DH, it would be him saying thank you- not me.

CunTea · 12/01/2023 14:42

What a number of posters, myself included, have pointed out, is that the SIL is unlikely to just not be saying thank you out of being a cow. It is highly likely that she has some major things going on and that a thank you text is the least of her worries and that maybe OP should be more worried about the person than the perceived protocol.

silconfusion · 12/01/2023 14:43

Why are you blaming your SiL for your BiL's lack of interest?

We've seen bil loads.

OP posts:
Notonthestairs · 12/01/2023 14:44

They aren't friends though are they? I know when my friends are unhappy and why - and that would inform my response to any perceived rudeness.

Fushiadreams · 12/01/2023 14:55

silconfusion · 12/01/2023 14:43

Why are you blaming your SiL for your BiL's lack of interest?

We've seen bil loads.

So how come you’ve no clue if he’s still married if his wife is ok and his thanks are not enough>

it does feel like you’re looking for some drama op amd want to go for this woman.

have you nothing else to occupy you?

silconfusion · 12/01/2023 15:11

So how come you’ve no clue if he’s still married if his wife is ok and his thanks are not enough>

Because as I said, it's all very cloak and dagger and you just don't ask those things.

Do people realise not all families are the same?

Wouldn't be the same in my family but there you go

OP posts:
KettrickenSmiled · 12/01/2023 15:14

Because as I said, it's all very cloak and dagger and you just don't ask those things.

Well if you're not asking & SiL isn't telling, you no longer have the relationship you once thought you had. You've sent her a text today - if she responds, be friendly, play it by ear. If she does not - consider that she may be having marital troubles & not want to confide in anybody still within BiL's family circle.

silconfusion · 12/01/2023 15:17

KettrickenSmiled · 12/01/2023 15:14

Because as I said, it's all very cloak and dagger and you just don't ask those things.

Well if you're not asking & SiL isn't telling, you no longer have the relationship you once thought you had. You've sent her a text today - if she responds, be friendly, play it by ear. If she does not - consider that she may be having marital troubles & not want to confide in anybody still within BiL's family circle.

Yep will do

OP posts:
Tiani4 · 12/01/2023 17:01

That's really good advice @KettrickenSmiled

Tiani4 · 12/01/2023 17:06

I don't understand PPs slating OP. She spelt out exactly how she has realised slowly looking back that SIL hasn't been in touch and that particularly bc she hadn't thanked for gift that was unusual and then asked if in these circumstances being told by MIL that there were issues, whether she should contact SIL direct

I don't see the benefit of PPs nitpicking and making assumptions on this thread, rather than giving constructive advice. Other than it's AIBU board which brings out the unhelpful posters from the woodwork.

Rawraw6217 · 15/01/2023 05:04

She could be going through something.

There is also another possibility, which I only bring up based on personal experience. She could also be avoiding her bil and sil (you) on purpose because you've offended or upset her somehow. I would imagine, if she's felt mistreated by her husband's brother and wife, the last thing she wants to do is spend more time with them... new baby or not. And gifting etiquette doesn't really apply when we want someone to bugger off.

Zanatdy · 15/01/2023 06:47

My thoughts would be they probably are having marital issues. Perhaps they are living separate lives in the same home. She probably didn’t buy all the Christmas presents this year and BIL has totally forgotten or not bothered. No excuse not to thank you for her gifts. I can see you’ve sent a text, that’s what I’d have done too, happy new year is a great excuse to get in touch with someone. Just let her know you’re available for a coffee / chat etc if she needs it. Sounds like she’s checked out of her relationship but doesn’t mean you can’t be friends still

Ineedcoffee2021 · 15/01/2023 07:30

Maybe she just not that into you....

If she hasnt contacted you in a year maybe just go oh well and move on
Maybe she was just being nice to keep the peace and is done with that now for whatever reason.
She dont owe you a relationship and from her end, if you only text her once, then its safe for her to assume you dont really care to much
Your coming off more like you want the gift and 'omg look at the cute baby'

Rhaych2003 · 15/01/2023 09:56

It’s Very ungrateful that they didn’t say thankyou for presents, I know a lot of people like that. Although it’s not the be all and end all if they didn’t buy your kids gifts? Teach your kids that it’s experiences and spending time with people that matters, not materialistic things.

Can I ask why you have came to strangers for advice instead of just sending a simple message saying “hey i feel you’ve been abit distant lately, is everything okay? We would love for you to meet little man”. There could be a number of reasons their being distant, maybe they’ve split up so she’s no longer your sil? Maybe their struggling with fertility and seeing a baby would be too much?

Rhaych2003 · 15/01/2023 09:57

The cost of living crisis is insane, a lot of people have cut back on spending on gifts this year. I’m sure your kids get plenty of you, materialistic things shouldn’t matter

Rhaych2003 · 15/01/2023 09:59

If you’re so concerned about her like you claim, why not contact her or the bil rather than come to a bunch of strangers on internet?

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