my little brother is dealing drugs

[iskra]

My 21 year old brother is partway through his degree. He's been a recreational drug user for years, quite heavy usage at times, but cut backs during exam time etc. Straight A student. Very sociable. Anyway, I saw him at the weekend & it transpires that he is dealing class A drugs. He acts a middleman & buys quite large quantities. He estimates he will "earn" above the tax threshold through it this year. I don't think he's doing it for the money, particularly. He's fully funded through uni (no student loan even) & has large amount of savings that were handed over to him at 18. He's very pro-drugs & hyper-rational about it all.

I worry about him getting caught, basically, but can't see anything I can do. He considers me to be "bourgeoise" now I have kid & don't party/live spontaneously any more, & he considers our other brother to be uncool. We all get on, but I don't think our words have much weight for him. Our parents know that he is a recreational drug user & have done for years - they don't object in theory but worry about the quantities - but they have no idea about the dealing. I toyed with the idea of telling them but can't really see what it would achieve - not like he can be grounded...

He naturally considers himself invincible, but of course he's not. He already has a caution for squatting, would have thought being held in police cells for 5 hours might have given him a bit of a shock, but apparently not.

Not really sure why I'm putting this out there, except it's really weighing on my mind at the moment.

I have to admit, I know what I would do, which would be to report him. But only you can decide that...

Report him? To the police, you mean? Bloody hell, no way. He's not pushing drugs outside primary school gates, he's buying bulk & passing it on to friends who sell it around their university towns.

You would really report him? It honestly hadn't even crossed my mind to do that. He'd get a jail sentence of years.

tbh I would worry more about him being involved in drug and subsequential gang culture than getting caught.

What is he dealing in and what weight is he buying in at?

Is he just dealing to uni mates?

Crimestoppers 0800 555 111, easy.

Coming from a city that is currently besieged by drug trafickers, the only thing that I can tell you is that he has blood in his hands. He might be responsible (until he is not) but that doesn't meant that he is not causing a LOT of damage either by distributing or by sustaining an illegal activity.

Not doing so makes you an accomplice, even of his own demise or that of others.

he is doing something illegal. his look out. report him now before he gets involved in something far worse/gets caught anyway/etc.

yes report him. it is illegal to deal drugs regardless of whether it is to kids or not. god only knows what crime he is funding, or who the victims of his crimes are- trafficked women for example.

"He's not pushing drugs outside primary school gates, he's buying bulk & passing it on to friends who sell it around their university towns." Fantastic level of responsibility! does he also vet his distributors to ensure the drug is only pushed to discerning young adults?

Of course he will get a sentence, a well deserved one.

he may not personally be pushing drugs outside school gates, but the people he's passing on to and associating with may well do

he really is being a twat

"He estimates he will "earn" above the tax threshold through it this year"

you deluded or what? he is not pushing drugs around outside primary school gates????
sorry op you should report him straight away, drugs spread abject misery whoever buys them

I find this really hard to imagine - you would report your little brother to the police? Knowing full well that he would be convicted? You wouldn't take any other steps preceding tearing your family apart?

Do you think he will take any notice at this stage?
I wouldn't think twice...do you want him dealing to your children?

It sounds like he has thought it all through and has no moral responsibility at all for the lives he is ruining. These are class A drugs we are talking about! He is the one who is tearing apart lives! Yes I would report him to the police!

he knows what he is doing is illegal. he chose to do it knowing full well that it could tear his family apart, and by the sounds of things he has no intention of stopping even if you told your parents so i dont know what other steps you were thinking of taking that would stop him other than him being convicted.

In your bourgeoise lifestyle do you allow your own child to associate with the known drug dealer?

If this is for real you're already in a bind. How can you allow a child in the same environment as him that they could accidentally access drugs? How can you avoid that without telling your family why its difficult.

From what you say he's in deep and not just buying a bit for mates, supplying other dealers.

It's not so easy to just stop being a drug dealer - especially if he's dealing in higher quantities - the person he buys off isn't going to just let him decide not to deal anymore.

Has he thought of this?

I would tell him thast I would have to report him if he kept doing it, and mean it. Only other option is no more contact while he does it.

So he's pro drugs - bully for him. I'm pro- drink driving - sound ok to you? (I'm not really)

Have a look at this to have an understanding of the industry he is supporting.

Iskra

re your comment:-

"He's not pushing drugs outside primary school gates, he's buying bulk & passing it on to friends who sell it around their university towns"

Oh so that makes it alright then or more respectable. No. He is funding organised criminal gangs!. Many Vietnamese organised criminal gangs run cannabis farms.

Your brother would certainly get a long stretch in jail when he is caught. He will likely slip up at some point (the IR for instance could well start investigating his finances) and it will all come crashing down around his ears.

You are not responsible for your brother; only your own self here. He made a choice as do you.

I wouldnt report him, I'd talk to him about it and express my concerns. But you are not responsible for him, he is an adult and is responsible for his own actions.

tbh even if you threatened to tell the police unless he stopped i dont think he would, he would just tell you he had and continue to deal but not let on to you. i really think you have no other option than to report him.

Not all dealers go to jail according to this www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4324745/Only-half-of-convicted-drug-dealers-sent-to-ja il.html

Steps before reporting him? hmm, what do you mean? like having a serious chat with him to talk him out of drugs and his hefty income? are you deluded? ring the police. And don't let him know you are planning to do it, otherwise you will see what a nasty piece your little brother could be.

Do some research on the sort of jail terms he's likely to receive when he's caught (note: I said when he's caught, not if).

Smaller quantities can be deemed for 'personal use', but if he is caught with large amounts, he could be considered a drug trafficker....

Where exactly is he keeping this stuff? He's likely to be mixing with some extremely dangerous people.