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Husband spent night with girl at office do last night

113 replies

niceglasses · 19/12/2009 09:35

Am devastated. Our relationship not perfect - feeling my fault. anyone been through this?

OP posts:
EcoMouse · 19/12/2009 10:19

If he's got any conscience or regret, it defies belief that he can sleep at all!

LisaD1 · 19/12/2009 10:20

Niceglasses - there is no way on this earth that my DH would get to do this shit and then sleep it off! I would be up those stairs and packing his bags and kicking his arse out. Then he would need to explain and grovel his arse off before he so much as got to step over the front door, let alone up the stairs! Although, I think it would be over for us if he did what you H has done but we never really know unless we're in the situation, I think you need him out so you can think and decide what YOU want to do.

Sorry your H has been such a shit!

Tortington · 19/12/2009 10:20

so sorry that you are going through this.

i think if he has a hangover from last night - best to leave him be - there will be no sensible discussion.

you have to figure out what you want from the future, and aim for it.

personally - once is a mistake - twice is stamping on your dignity.

GroundHoHoHogs · 19/12/2009 10:23

FGS, if there is one form of torture, and a way to make that guy suffer, it's by waking him up and telling him to explain himself.

If he can't, then at least he's up and can pack his shit.

Better yet, go into the room and noisily pack his things. That'll jolt him into awareness.

Don't allow him the luxury of a LIE-IN... FGS!

LizzyLordsALeaping · 19/12/2009 10:25

Niceglasses I agree with Scruffymomma about getting someone to have your DC and Custy about letting him sleep it off a bit, you need to have a sensible discussion about this, which won't happen whilst he's hungover.
Please please please don't feel like you are to blame, it was his decision to book a room and sleep with this girl, you have done nothing wrong. He has overstepped the mark, not you, whatever problems there may be in your marriage.
I am so sorry that this has happened.

Tillyscoutsmum · 19/12/2009 10:26

Hangover or not - the fact that he can even sleep whilst knowing what you must be going through doesn't sound good. That would be much more of a concern than the actually sleeping with someone

I agree you should get out of the house and get some rl support from friends or family. At least he might have some attack of conscience when he does wake up

The fucker - I am so angry for you

TishTosh21 · 19/12/2009 10:27

I agree with getting him out of bed, make him suffer like he's doing to you.

Heqet · 19/12/2009 10:28

So he's slept with someone else, come home, confirmed it and popped off for a kip?

Bloody hell woman! He is taking the fucking PISS!

You must be devestated. I suppose if you go up there and confront it, it makes it 'real' iyswim.

You have to do something though. How you react now will determine the future of your relationship. (should you want to try to mend it!) Business as usual and he will continue to stick his dick in any passing female.

GroundHoHoHogs · 19/12/2009 10:28

The leave him alone brigade are probably all right, but haven't had a lie in since before DS was born 4 years ago...

I'd jump all over that hangover, and inflict as much pain as I could.... I'd have him sobering up somewhere else tbh.

THEN when it's worn off I'd talk to the sorry arse, when it suited me to do so.

spicemonster · 19/12/2009 10:29

I don't think the OP and her H should have a discussion now either. But I think letting him have a nice sleep because he was up all night shagging is tantamount to saying that it's your fault that he spent the night with another woman

LizzyLordsALeaping · 19/12/2009 10:34

While he sleeps, get some childcare sorted, then wake him up. I don't think he should get a lie in now either, gawd he'd be wearing the contents of the bin here. But I wouldn't want my DC witnessing the sort of row that would follow such beahviour, I know how it affected me when I was growing up.

passmyglassplease · 19/12/2009 10:36

so sorry nicegalsses

now pop of to the kitchen and fill a nice big jug with cold water, walk very calmly into the bedroom and throw it all over him, for thats what he deserves for behaving like a dog.

tinalane · 19/12/2009 10:36

So sorry to hear about it.

How do you feel now?

I'd get out the house with kids, come back later & ask him to explain himself. Maybe you could leave the kids with a relative for this?

He's not treating you with any respect, and you need to treat yourself with respect.

What do you really want, long term, you need time & space to think.

passmyglassplease · 19/12/2009 10:37

oh yes I forgot, one other thing, yell very loudly, GET UP YOU CHEATING DOG!

FabIsGettingReadyForXmas · 19/12/2009 10:37

It is not your fault.

It is his.

He should not be in bed sleeping he should be begging your forgiveness, telling the truth and waiting on you hand and foot.

It is not your fault.

He is a wanker.

TheFoosa · 19/12/2009 10:47

I second the jug of ice cold water

2kidzandi · 19/12/2009 10:59

I think you should use this time to get child care and then mentally prepare yourself for the showdown when he wakes up. Rehearse in your mind exactly what you intend to say and ask. Don't be intimidated if he gets angry or tries to turn it around on you by making it out it was your fault. Make sure he knows you are furious!

A thought has just occurred to me. Do you want him to stay? Are are you actually afraid that he will leave hence why he's still sleeping? It must be hard for you, i'm saying all this but I don't how I'd react if it was me.

But his told-you-and-gone-to-sleep-attitude reeks of nonchalence. You've got to shake him up.

Swedington · 19/12/2009 11:01

I don't think it matters whether they had sex, snogged, talked about their terrible marriages or talked about a work project.

He lied to you, his wife and partner of nigh on 20 years. He has let you down. You need to talk and talk and talk some more.

I'd take him a cup of tea and ask him to get himself up as you need to talk. It's wrong that you feel wretched and he sleeps.

SolidGoldpiginablanket · 19/12/2009 11:32

What happened after the last time he did it, OP? Did he promise it would never happen again, blame you for it, blame the other woman for it, apologise thoroughly and do his best to make amends?
Or has he been using the threat of sleeping with other women or indeed leaving you to make you do what he wants?
Because you don't have to put up with his behaviour if it hurts you. There are worse things than being single, and one of them is being with a man who doesnt love you and expects you to service him domestically while he chases other women all over the place.
Now some people can deal reasonably well with occasional infidelities in a marriage - they can percieve it as no big deal and get over it. DO think about your own feelings, your own needs, and what you want to happen, don't let him make it all about him and his needs and his choices. If you can't forgive him, make him leave. If you want to forgive him, make sure he understands what he has to do to make it up to you.

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 19/12/2009 11:56

Nice - when my discovery happened, the circumstances were not the same in that he came home from work at the normal time for that day, but it was past 2a.m. At about 1a.m., I'd found his old phone and had discovered text messages to the OW he had not deleted. I then went on to access his online phone bills and the evidence was all there. When he came home, I confronted him immediately and he admitted having an affair. He was in so much shock (as was I) that I could barely get any sense out of him. I still look back in amazement that after about 15 minutes of establishing the bare facts, I let him go to bed (in the spare room).

I look back now and think it was probably for the best - the tiredness combined with the shock would have prevented any rational discussion, but I do wish I'd thought more logically and asked him to hand over his phone immediately. It would have been full of evidence that he deleted in the initial aftermath i.e. photos of her that she'd sent.

I spent a totally sleepless night and couldn't get warm - my body was actually freezing cold, despite it being a warm September night. He tossed and turned all night and barely slept.

We had to wait until 2p.m the following day for our kids to go out to have the most painful conversation we have ever had. This then got interrupted on their return and we had to wait until they'd gone to bed to resume, by which point we were both exhausted again.

I wish I had phoned someone and made arrangements to have them overnight. I'd have come up with any old excuse (a D and V bug that I didn't want them to catch - anything) so that we'd had 24 hours of uninterrupted time. The interruptions in the days following were awful - it seemed as though every man jack and his wife knocked on the door or phoned us that week.

You need uninterrupted time, really you do. Please get that if you need it. Also, please realise you are in shock - real shock.

I know that some people would prefer time and space apart but I didn't. I didn't want to let him out of my sight and I needed answers.

It is not, repeat not, your fault. I understand why you are beating yourself up, all nice people do this. But if there had been any problems on his side, it was his responsibility to tell you. I don't care what anyone says, an affair might be understandable, but it is never justified. It's a crap behaviour choice.

My advice over the next few days is also - listen to what he says, but then for your own peace of mind, try to verify it. His phone will be the biggest key of all. In the early aftermath, betraying partners often downplay events, so as to minimise their culpability. They will admit to only what you can prove. He might be saying this was a drunken one-off for example, but it seems likely to me that there was some build-up to this etc. You can recover as a couple from this, but lies and dishonesty now will hamper progress, as will further revelations down the line. Try to get it all now, by hook or by crook - it really will help you, believe me.

Don't be rushed into deciding what you want to do. Listen and take your time. Please however, do post on here and we will help you.

dinoroar · 19/12/2009 12:05

I just want to add my voice to the others who have said that it is not your fault.

Even if you consider that you have done something "wrong" it does not excuse the situation. If he had a problem with you, he has a responsibility to sort it out with you, not go and spend the night with someone else!

I am also astonished he can sleep, it shows a lack of remorse and a lack of concern for your feelings. He should be utterly ashamed of himself and begging forgiveness. Given that he is the sort of person who just goes for a sleep when something of this magnitude happens, I think that it is not worth waking him up.

He's in the wrong, not you. Millions of people have marital problems but the decent ones don't just rush off to bed with someone else.

SleighBelleDameSansMerci · 19/12/2009 12:06

If you're prepared for what you could see I would suggest having a look at his phone while he's out of the way. WWIFN is absolutely right - they will only admit to what they can get away with.

I would be concerned about whether this was a one off or an affair. It may be that others feel differently but, to me, they are very different. Not sure either is forgiveable but an affair is much worse (in my opinion).

MrsGuyOfChristmasBorn · 19/12/2009 13:33

Niceglasses - so sorry to hear what you are going through. NOT YOUR FAULT. Second the views that - a) try to get the kids to be looked after elsewhere tonight b) look through his phone/email while he is asleep. When that is sorted, wake the bugger up and confront him before he has a chnace to think up a cover story.
Do you know who the OW is, if he did definitely spend the night with one? Not entirely unknown for a man to claim that to give his wife a jolt, in the mistaken beleif it will shock her into wanting him back.
My strategy would be initially to ask him about as much as you want to know - how long going on, one-off or affair - be as calm as you can, but act like this is the end of your marriage, and make sure he knows how seriouly hurt you are. Only when he is terrified it really is the end (and you have spelled out to him the real consequences of a marriage ending which are horrible, expensive and life-shortening), only then open up the possibility you may be prepared to forgive, but need to know what behaviours both of you are prepared to change.
You need to talk about it TODAY, not let him wriggle out of it or procrastinate,cos you will be one suffering unless you seize control of the situation. I understand you must be totally devastated, but you need to find out from him how it happened.
And remember you are NOT to blame! Even if you haven't been keen on sex etc recently, his behaviour is hardly the way to imporve your desire for him, and no-one needs sex so desperately they could do such a despicable thing to their life partner.
Mumnetters are very supportive, I went through something vaguely similar once, and the support on here kept me sane enough to deal with it, an eventullay negotiate a good outcome. Good luck, and hugs.

GypsyMoth · 19/12/2009 13:38

probably too late now if he's awake,but i'd have also hijacked his phone and had a good look in his car.....you need to be in 'suspicious' mode now,because in order to limit further damage he will try to delete everything...

TotallyAndUtterlyPaninied · 19/12/2009 13:53

I'll add to the echo- 'this is not your fault!!'

It doesn;t matter what's going on in your relationship, he can't do that to you.

This is one of a woman's worst nightmares isn't it. While he's asleep,

1)get the kids packed off for a fun day and night at nan's house.
2)Pack him a bag as discretely as possible.
3)Wake him and ask him to explain.
4)Be prepared to make him go no matter what he says.

He's been so non-fussed about it he is not taking it seriously and I think maybe this might be something that's been going on for a long while (not with that particular woman, just in general). He's done it once and got away with it so he's carried on.

Your world is turning upside down but you can't just accept it and carry on, you need to at least make him go for a few days while you reevaluate your life and feelings.

You clearly don't have the same priorities- you stayed in with his kids last night, you're being a mum today, he's shared a room with another woman last night and is in bed selfishly sleeping after dropping a bombshell today.

It doesn't really matter what he did in that room, he's betrayed you.