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Our first Relate appointment is tomorrow, I'm scared.

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Scorps · 14/12/2009 10:12

DH & I are at 'shit or bust' point in our marriage. He came back to the family home on Friday night after 12 days away; He says he doesn't love me anymore. We want to go to counselling and try, because at least if we do split we can say we did everything possible. It has all stemmed from when i mc in Feb i think. I got pg v quickly after, but totally withdrew into myself. Another woman paid him attention and when i was 15 weeks pg he kissed her. Since then i have been terrified and not let him out of my sight, have withdrawn love from him and affection, etc. He would say he loved me and i wouldnt even say anything back.

He is behaving oddly now - saying he doesn't love me, then when i had a 'revelation' this morning saying to him that maybe because of my self worth i should just quit now, i have alot to offer a man etc, he gets upset. We have had sex this weekend too but I'm not allowing that anymore - he can't reach out to me on the sofa, but tries to have sex. I told him today no more of that and he agreed. He said he wants his affection to be true when he does it, and i think thats best too.

He is not nasty; I'm 38+3 weeks with dc4 and he is caring for me and the dc. I have enough money, etc. He is a fantastic father and really wants to go to Relate, but isnt commiting himself to saying he wants our marriage to work.

I'm scared about the appointment, what we will have to talk about, what he will say that will just hurt me more, Relate isn't superglue .

What will happen, any advice, nice things to say to me? Feel like im living life blindfolded. Please dont think he's nasty hes not, its been such a hard year, 2009 has.

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ArizonaBarker · 09/01/2010 11:49

I feel sorry for him, Scorps. I really do.

What has he got? A few teenagers and erm...not much else.

You have four children who love and need you, a loving and supportive family and an increasingly rosey future.

I know who I would rather be.

Scorps · 09/01/2010 13:11

Mum said it's not a personal attack; he is almost trying to big himself up because most people (everyone who knows the truth anyway) have distanced from him.

So cross. Immature twats. J is 27 and single; the other woman is his boss who is 40 something and married with 3dc! How can they think it's ok, funny?

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MisSalLaneous · 09/01/2010 13:22

Because age and maturity doesn't always go hand in hand. They're all stupid. No wonder the "normal" friends are distancing themselves from him. Try and refrain from checking up on him - he's the type that'll always like to pretend he's so popular, so will surround himself with other twats if that's what it takes.

Scorps · 09/01/2010 16:42

Went out to town this afternoon, gotcsome clothes, had coffee with sister and friend. Saw other people I know who all said better off away and of course I will move on cos I'm pretty lololol

I feel good

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dittany · 09/01/2010 17:24

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ladylush · 09/01/2010 19:08

Defo find out what happened to the five grand. Get your share then maybe consider driving lessons? With 4 dc will be very useful Glad you are sounding more feisty

nipscouldcutglass · 09/01/2010 19:40

Just try to ignore the fb stuff - they sound daft. I think I would need to remove his as a friend if I were you as I would find all that kind of thing upsetting but obsessively check his wall if I had access.

I agree with ladylush - you should defo have received some of the 5k.

kettlechip · 09/01/2010 20:56

I'd take a deep breath and then go through and remove them all as friends. Just done that with some of H's friends, very satisfying and stops any nonsense. If they aren't supporting you at this time, they really are not your friends.

Go and get legal advice asap. You will probably be entitled to legal aid to help with this, they'll be able to tell you. Don't feel bad about claiming any benefits, you're exactly the sort of person who most needs and deserves them!

Scorps · 10/01/2010 09:02

Thanks I guess I need benefits now, though a big part will be hs money and cb and everyone gets that.

My friend went up to mine last night to sit in the house so he could go to tesco ( been working, no other time dc asleep) and he badgered my friend so much about me and how I was that she had to say she isn't a mediator, she's my friend and isn't a go between. He wanted to know why I was 'short' on text msgs !! She told him there isn't much need for contact and he isn't the right person to help me through this (something he keeps saying). Apparently he has lost (!!!!!) his best friend.

Yeah, go rot - you're already starting to.

As for me- spare time, boxing and playgroups is my plan for short term, of course on top of dc routines.My sister and I are going to night school in September to learn a language.

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IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 10/01/2010 10:02

Sounds good Scorps

Anniegetyourgun · 10/01/2010 10:04

You really have some terrific friends.

Scorps · 10/01/2010 10:17

I do and I'm very lucky, but it's almost like I'm reaping what I've sown..... As will he.

He has messaged me 3 times alreadytoday. Although he hasn't asked how I am yet, lol. Must have listened to my friend. He is so deluded if he thinks a friendship between us will flourish. He has done too much. Yes it hurts, I kinda feel like I've been refunded but I keep imagining that life of worry, cheating, lies, secrets and it's not cool. He's 27; always been the same and probably always will, am I right? I want him to see the woman he had and has lost - but I think that is happening already. He shouldn't even have a concern over my welfare.

Saw more friends in town yesterday - one said at least I won't cry at school about him anymore. I actually use to walk to school somedays crying over the latest thing. Another, who holds the same views on marriage as I said I have nothing to be ashamed of. She offered help and lifts to things etc . I was pleased she in particular said that as I did feel ashamed at the start but more and more I see it's HIM not me.

Everyone says I will settle down again. I hope so, I believe in marriage and truth.

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Scorps · 10/01/2010 15:35

I looked online but it looks easier to ring up to apply for money.

Mad, sad, angry, that I have to apply for all of this. I didn't do anything. It feels quite alien you know.

I went on entitledto.com and the money seems ok with budgetting i guess

bastarding twatty bastard

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Scorps · 10/01/2010 17:00

Having a wobble

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nipscouldcutglass · 10/01/2010 20:04

scorps - you are doing brilliantly. In a year or so this will be a distant memory and you will feel relief not to be with him and disbelief you ever were.

Scorps · 10/01/2010 20:23

Thanks dad sorted me out

I'm hving dd1 tomorrow too yay miss her tons!!

I'm goin home in a few days. Dad said he will be there every day until I'm sick of him

love love love my family

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Scorps · 11/01/2010 08:17

Getting cross with what I have to do every night with Lacey and he doesn't, he gets to sleep through go to bed knowing he can sleep. I seem to feed constantly. But even if I do ff, he can't stay at mine to 'help' anyway. Tired.

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ladylush · 11/01/2010 09:26

And ff means faffing about in the middle of the night warming up bottles. Brrrr in this cold weather

turtle23 · 11/01/2010 09:33

On the other hand, my dear...you get to bond with Lacey in a way that he can never have a part of. You will get those first smiles, coos, giggles... You are the centre of her universe...so much so that she thinks you are part of her. Surely that is a good thing?

I am feeling slightly human today so do drop me an email if you want to chat.

Scorps · 11/01/2010 10:16

I know turtle but it's hard (I know you know more than me about that)

I hate the fact WE ttc, etc, and now look at me!! He will swan off this week to his bedsit thing - free nights, sone weekend days. He's not the one cooking cleaning ironing etc. His life will move on 1000 times faster than mine. So cross that he is 'allowed' to marry me, have kids, then decide 'no thanks' and fuck off

he will have much better prospects of a future than me - any bloke is gonna do a runner on a girl with 4dc at 25.

Twat

and the worst thing is I still aren't strong enough to see him

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newnamenewlife · 11/01/2010 11:23

Don't see him - he is not worth your time and energy. But your children are and oh boy what will they think of him when old enough to understand!!!! His mistakes will hurt him - thank goodness your children have you and your family to cushion them from the hurt involved. You are fantastic scorps keep going. xx

turtle23 · 11/01/2010 11:28

It is hard. And horrible. But it is. You HAVE TO start trying to focus on you and the babies and seeing the positive things around you. You have two amzing families...one you made and one you came from. Take all the support you can get and just ignore K.

Big hug for you, honey.

turtle23 · 11/01/2010 11:30

(I know I sound like a hypocrite saying these things, btw. My H is upset about being snowed in...not because he misses the kids but because he had parties to go to. I haven't even been able to go to the toilet without kids. Bitter? Me?)

Scorps · 11/01/2010 14:26

Went in town

most other women had men with them pushing buggies etc

not me. I must be one horrid person. What is better out there than wife and kids? How can't he see I reacted like that because he has always (pretty much) lied and cheated?

Now I have to build a new life in a world I know nothing about. Start again. I never ever planned it like this

does he even care, miss me?

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ladylush · 11/01/2010 14:57

So you were just supposed to put up with the lying/cheating were you? No - you had no choice. Your self-esteem maybe low now but it would've been worse if you'd have let him walk over you knowing he'd do it again.
I can understand how you feel but I believe there will be someone out there for you - a decent bloke who appreciates you for who you are but also respects and values how you are as a mother. I don't think the kids issue is a big as you think it is. It just seems it right now.