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Our first Relate appointment is tomorrow, I'm scared.

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Scorps · 14/12/2009 10:12

DH & I are at 'shit or bust' point in our marriage. He came back to the family home on Friday night after 12 days away; He says he doesn't love me anymore. We want to go to counselling and try, because at least if we do split we can say we did everything possible. It has all stemmed from when i mc in Feb i think. I got pg v quickly after, but totally withdrew into myself. Another woman paid him attention and when i was 15 weeks pg he kissed her. Since then i have been terrified and not let him out of my sight, have withdrawn love from him and affection, etc. He would say he loved me and i wouldnt even say anything back.

He is behaving oddly now - saying he doesn't love me, then when i had a 'revelation' this morning saying to him that maybe because of my self worth i should just quit now, i have alot to offer a man etc, he gets upset. We have had sex this weekend too but I'm not allowing that anymore - he can't reach out to me on the sofa, but tries to have sex. I told him today no more of that and he agreed. He said he wants his affection to be true when he does it, and i think thats best too.

He is not nasty; I'm 38+3 weeks with dc4 and he is caring for me and the dc. I have enough money, etc. He is a fantastic father and really wants to go to Relate, but isnt commiting himself to saying he wants our marriage to work.

I'm scared about the appointment, what we will have to talk about, what he will say that will just hurt me more, Relate isn't superglue .

What will happen, any advice, nice things to say to me? Feel like im living life blindfolded. Please dont think he's nasty hes not, its been such a hard year, 2009 has.

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Scorps · 02/01/2010 11:38

Lolol

her toes are funny her baby one is curled up and longer than the one next to it

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Anniegetyourgun · 02/01/2010 11:52

Sweet

StanleyFletcher · 02/01/2010 12:32

Scorps I have just came across this thread and read it from start to finish. I hope that one day (when you have some time to yourself.. so in about a year ) you too will be able to read it and see what I have seen.

YOU ARE AMAZING!!!

I cannot imagine what it is like to be in your situation and I hope that if I am every faced with such hardship, hurt and general shittiness I can face it, deal with it and come through it with one iota of your grace and strength and underlying self-belief.

Your H sounds like a right cunt (sorry!) and he will be left behind to marvel at the woman you are.

Many, many congratulations on the birth of your daughter. She will be blessed with knowing that she has come into the world with such a strong, capable mother who is surrounded by people who love her and that you both (and your other children) have many people to rely on.

Well done you! . I know that not all of your troubles are yet behind you but if you managed this past couple of months to keep your head and wits about you then you can take on ANYTHING!

4andnotout · 02/01/2010 12:42

Congratulations Scorps

I have been another lurker but just wanted to congratulate you and wish you, Lacey and your other dc's the very best for the New Year.

P.s Four is fab

MisSalToeKisses · 02/01/2010 22:49

How was the visit? I really hope all went fine and that it didn't make it more difficult for you.

cathcat · 03/01/2010 00:13

Scorps has gone into hospital with suspected appendicitis - thread is in Breastfeeding.
Hope you recover quickly Scorps.

Scorps · 03/01/2010 05:35

Still waiting had blood tests and v painful internal vaginal exam. Had weird spacy drugs. Poss womb infection. Had sleep lacey feeding great having anti biotics

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Scorps · 03/01/2010 06:05

H stayed with me so I could sleep etc

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makkapakkamoo · 03/01/2010 06:24

that's the least he could do

another lurker here too, also going through a break-up (with your twunt's brother i suspect!)

are they letting you keep Lacey with you now? You're doing amazingly well hun, i've only got 2 dc and i'm finding it hard enough. stay strong xox

ChippingIn · 03/01/2010 07:52

Scorps - OMG - I haven't been on MN much for ages and completely missed your whole thread.

I am so sorry. What an awful time you have had of it.

Bits of things he said to you are things my Ex said, the whole wants you one minute, is leaving the next - it's so bloody draining. They say one thing one minute, the opposite the next - you never know where you stand. Your emotions are all over the place - and I can't even imagine how it would have been to have gone through all of that with 3 DC and pregnant. What a fucking nightmare.

Your parents sound brilliant and it sounds like you have a brilliant relationship with both of them. In that way you are very, very lucky.

You have been amazing and coped incredibly well, even more so for someone so young. I wish I could give you a big hug. It makes me so sad that someone could have 3 DC's (and take on a little one as well) with you & then treat you like this. But you know these are his issues don't you - this is not about you. You are a lovely, amazing, strong person who your children will be immensely proud to call Mum!

Keep your chin up & enjoy your children.
Let your parents give you moral support & practical help - and lots of love.

Big, unmumsnetty hugs - chippy x

Scorps · 04/01/2010 08:21

Doing ok since being at mums, milk is properly in now and all my meds are working it feels!

H keeps checking how I am. He was being v weird in the hospital/yday morning but we are postpartum, both awake all night, etc. At least he is a human iyswim and allowed me sleep, got me things etc.

It will probably be the end of this week I go home and he goes. I'm Terrified, scared, sad, I've failed my marriage, coping alone, worried about what he's gonna do...if I'll ever look at another man and think he was more beautiful than my h, if I'll ever get past coping and actually laugh or if there will be a day that he doesn't walk through my brain?

Why isn't life easier, kinder? I don't want him to go and then obviously mope about cos that's no use to anyone.

On the upside Lacey seems to be 'aware' she is apart from me now and is able to be put down fr a little while. She is feeding fab an slept so well last night.

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Anniegetyourgun · 04/01/2010 08:46

Oi! If you weren't unwell I'd shake you

"... I've failed my marriage..."

You are hereby forbidden by absolute decree of Mumsnet from using the F-word again.

Nobody knows what strange worm is eating your H's brain at this moment, but you didn't put it there, nor have you any means to take it out. You might just as well say you've failed to bring about world peace. Life just sucks sometimes. You're doing the best you can.

Scorps · 04/01/2010 08:55

Is all a bit scary he must be very sure though to still allow me and the baby away, etc. Keep reminding myself that yes he's being kin but he's just human iyswim and even he can't leave me that poorly 3 dats postpartum.

So scared that this I expect is THE week. Need a bravery helmet/shield.

I feel so strong when I don't see him.

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turtle23 · 04/01/2010 08:58

Scorps- I agree...you haven't failed anything. Except maybe the ability to stop worrying.
You are amazing...I am in awe of you. Concentrate on you and L at the moment. Get better and look after yourself.
You know where I am if you need to vent.

GibbonInARibbon · 04/01/2010 09:00

Scorps, been following your thread and have been in awe of your strength, congratulations on your beautiful little girl.

Keep on keepin' on my lovely x

ChippingIn · 04/01/2010 09:19

Oh Scorbs - I can actually feel your pain - you've made me cry again!

Of course you will meet someone else - you are young and have so many beautiful qualities.

H does not deserve you. No matter how much you love him and how beautiful he is, or how 'human' he is being at the moment, he does not deserve you - he has done some vile things and hurt you.

He doesn't want to put the effort in to work it out - he wants to be single (fine fucking time to decide that!!).

You, my love, have not failed in your relationship -he has. You have tried (for too long IMO) - but you cannot make it right on your own.

Of course you are terrified, sad & scared - you'd be all of those things without being ill and having a new born baby - but you are also STRONG. You will be OK - you will be better than OK, you will be HAPPY. You will laugh again, you will love again... I promise x

MitsubishiWarrioress · 04/01/2010 09:21

Congratulations scorps.

Another concerned lurker who wishes you ALL the very very best for you and your 4 DC's.

Life won't be just about 'coping' sweetheart. It will slowly get better, you will get stronger and with the love and support of family and friends you can carve a life out of your choosing. And if somewhere down the line, that includes another man....well fine, but you will be wiser and more defined about your needs.

My 'H' walked out in July 09 after tough times and it IS scary and hard and there are days when it just seem too much. And the one day you suddenly find yourself laughing and feeling like yes, it may be tough, but it's all going to be OK.

Take care of yourself and I really wish the very best for you..

Scorps · 04/01/2010 12:24

Lacey has only lost 4oz since birth very happy. Got 6 hrs sleep last night.

I am sad today. Prob going home Friday evening.

just how is this happening, possible, I still don't really get why but I kind of do but it doesnt seem bad enough for all this but he is adamant. He still doesn't seem totally happy with the situation but it must be because of dc, scared of future, guilt, etc but at the end of the day he doesn't love me anymore and Dad said he can't imagine a marriage with Out loving and seeing his best friend every day. I guess I feel so sad that he doesn't love me; I feel unlovable, shitty saggy and just a fucking mess. I'd defy a dog to love me right now!

Bonus is I'm back in size 8 today. Lacey is going in sling later out for a little walk to gp check and to chemist for wipes.

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MyMamaToldMe · 04/01/2010 12:44

Hi Scorpio - I've just seen this thread and really wish I was there to give you a great big hug. I so feel for you. Although we have never formally met in RL, I do feel I know you as we have been chatting for the last few years, and I have to tell you, you are one of the strongest people I know. You are a beautiful, kind and loving person, and if you DH fails to see that, then it is his loss. I think how wonderful it must be to have you as a mummy - your DC are so lucky they have this amazing role model in their lives showing them what love and compassion is, how to be strong when you want to crumble and I bet anything your sons will grow up and be just the best husbands and sons one day and your daughters as caring and lovely as you.

The only advise I can give is to take one day at a time. Things will get better - I won't lie - it won't happen all that quickly, but they will. You just stay positive and know that you have a huge amount of people behind you supporting you.

xxx

Scorps · 04/01/2010 14:08

Bad day today

how can someone just not love someone? I haven't been 'wrong'

I'm scared very scared

I don't want him with anyone else I don't want women touching him. I will never wanna do that again now and anyway I'm such a huge saggy mess

but he must be so serious it's 5 weeks now and a baby yknow? I know he's going but my god actually going

Watching sex and the city ... I thought I was married felt safe in that idea. I so don't want to date or have sex with random idiots or be used ( I am obv v naive about men)

I need picking up today. I'm on the countdown now

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slightlycrumpled · 04/01/2010 14:30

Hi scorps, I have just read the thread as have been away from MN for a couple of weeks.

You know it is not that you did anything wrong NOT AT ALL. Some people are incapable of the honest, true, grown up love that you need and that you give.

You have every right to be a little wobbly around the tummy - you have just given birth for goodness sake! Besides back in size 8 is NOT a huge saggy mess!

Life will move on, it just will. Try not to think too far ahead as others have said one day at a time.

Scorps · 04/01/2010 18:25

I don't want to go home

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DonDons · 04/01/2010 18:46

Scorps - keep your chin up girl - you are a strong, beautiful and amazing woman - you will get through this.

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 04/01/2010 19:06

Scorps, stay strong, we're all with you.

I just know it will be better at home than you think. You love Lacey and the DC's - things will be up and down but you will be a great team together.

And there are your RL friends, your mum and dad and us! We're all here to help so keep talking.

Scorps · 05/01/2010 03:25

Bad day has turned into bad night. Lacey still up and awake, feeding etc and I'm beyond tired again and in pain too.

Want to text him to tell him but no point. See this is my life to come - where is the fun part?

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