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Our first Relate appointment is tomorrow, I'm scared.

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Scorps · 14/12/2009 10:12

DH & I are at 'shit or bust' point in our marriage. He came back to the family home on Friday night after 12 days away; He says he doesn't love me anymore. We want to go to counselling and try, because at least if we do split we can say we did everything possible. It has all stemmed from when i mc in Feb i think. I got pg v quickly after, but totally withdrew into myself. Another woman paid him attention and when i was 15 weeks pg he kissed her. Since then i have been terrified and not let him out of my sight, have withdrawn love from him and affection, etc. He would say he loved me and i wouldnt even say anything back.

He is behaving oddly now - saying he doesn't love me, then when i had a 'revelation' this morning saying to him that maybe because of my self worth i should just quit now, i have alot to offer a man etc, he gets upset. We have had sex this weekend too but I'm not allowing that anymore - he can't reach out to me on the sofa, but tries to have sex. I told him today no more of that and he agreed. He said he wants his affection to be true when he does it, and i think thats best too.

He is not nasty; I'm 38+3 weeks with dc4 and he is caring for me and the dc. I have enough money, etc. He is a fantastic father and really wants to go to Relate, but isnt commiting himself to saying he wants our marriage to work.

I'm scared about the appointment, what we will have to talk about, what he will say that will just hurt me more, Relate isn't superglue .

What will happen, any advice, nice things to say to me? Feel like im living life blindfolded. Please dont think he's nasty hes not, its been such a hard year, 2009 has.

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simpson · 31/12/2009 10:18

congratulations!!

Scorps · 31/12/2009 10:21

H coming v soon. He is caring alot but must be strong

dd2 feeds so well, was up til 5 so v tired. I look at her and I don't know how he could cheat etc - also I don't care about anything else right now apart from her and other dc

mum and dad being fab as usual

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Parsleypants · 31/12/2009 10:59

Congrats Scorps, I have been lurking on this thread and am in awe of your strength, you are an amazing woman and I wish you all the very best for 2010. Congratulations on the birth of your lovely baby girl.

curvychick · 31/12/2009 12:39

Scorps, i too have been lurking and i just wanted to echo what the other lovely ladies have already said...that being, that you are a stong fabulous women who's children are very lucky to have a mummy like you.

I wish you and your 4dc all the very best for a happy and peaceful new year x

And also congratualtions and very well done on the safe arrival of baby Lacey

carciofi · 31/12/2009 13:31

Congratulations Scorps and welcome to Lacey.

DonDons · 31/12/2009 15:56

congratulations lovely lady!

cheerfulvicky · 31/12/2009 18:09

Congratulations, Scorps! Fantastic news I'm so happy she is here... Welcome, Lacey. Love the name, by the way.
Take things easy and enjoy her...
x

newnamenewlife · 31/12/2009 19:35

What fantastic news to read as I dip in for a quick catch up before joining my boys. So wonderful you managed home birth - and I really think you must be a very very special woman to have such fab friends and family.

Hope you get some sleep, and hope seeing stbx is not too hard. no way does he deserve you and your children after the past few weeks. you deserve someone very different!

MegBusset · 31/12/2009 19:37

Many congrats

Scorps · 31/12/2009 21:11

Feel bit tearful, how can he do this? I have so many hurdles to jump, what if life is ever only coping now?

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paranoidmummy · 31/12/2009 23:13

Oh Hun :-( haven't posted on this before but have been lurking in a concerned manner and couldn't leave this unanswered. You are bound to feel wobbly, you have had a terribly terribly difficult few months that has come to a head when you were about to drop. Your hormones alone are enough to cause tears so don't feel bad for it. You are strong and beautiful and a fantastic mummy and will come out on top for all this. Believe me you will. As for how he can do this. The answer is he is a twunt. I know he's your husband so I apologise but heis and you deserve so much more. Sorry for typos but on my phone and it's not the easiest. Just wanted you to know we are all here and offer some virtual support xXx

ps. Your baby is a beaut

VirginPeachyMotherOfSpod · 01/01/2010 09:34

PM is right you know.

Happy New Year Scorps: it might be a bit different to the one you planned, but have a look at the New Year thread running atm about the millennium and see how much peoples livescan change.

Scorps · 01/01/2010 11:24

Bad night with lacey was totally alone

h cared she was up about her milk iyswim but not one iota of hope u coped/get sleep

hate him just how can he, swan off, live, I'm a physical and emotional pile of shite

breasts hurt nipples hurt

lacey is beautiful but already I feel scared and like I'm doing her rather than enjoying she does make funny faces though lol

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VirginPeachyMotherOfSpod · 01/01/2010 11:34

Keep talking to your HV scorps but remember that your brain is probably being a bit protective- its easy to dissociate from things when its too tough,if its stilllike it in a week or twoask the HV as you are at higher risk for PND. Chances are though you're in shock.

Your H is self protecting: if he hears ytou're struggling (and what new mum doesn't?) then he will have to feel like the shit he is

Scorps · 01/01/2010 16:37

Better now he isn't seeing her today I think I would attack him for being a twat. He has asked all day how she is and has asked after me too

she isn't feeding as much as I would like in the day but I'm trying hard and it's working

I'm feeling ok physically nipples are sore

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minxi · 01/01/2010 16:47

Hi Scorps - just found you firstly massive congratulations to you and your new baby girl.
Secondly having read through I am just sending you good luck wishes and to say you can and will cope.
My best friend had two children like me and her DH convinced her to have a third we fell pg similar times and gave birth two weeks apart - five months later he left her saying he wanted to have fun and this wasn't the life he had in mind...he was always going out and staying out...it wasn't so much he could leave someone with a baby - it was the older ones who understood there dad had left them etc - so sad and selfish. 5 months on she feels strong and more confident - she has 3 beautiful children and she feels happy that she doesn't deal with his crap anymore! Like you she has great parents who are there for her too...
Anyway just wanted you to know you just need more time and take each day as it comes for a while - with a new baby this will be harder but if it ever changed would you want to go back to someone who could treat you like that in such a vulnerable time of your life ?! Thinking of you and your lovely children!! xxx

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 01/01/2010 21:08

Hi Scorps

Hope things are going ok for you this evening. I know there will be ups and downs but a good decade for you and the DCs ahead I know!

Scorps · 01/01/2010 22:08

Now attempting another night just me and Lacey... Had a good day though

he wants to visit her tomorrow but my parents will field it iyswim

Soooo badly wantto sleep just a bit!

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simpson · 01/01/2010 22:22

good luck tonight, think you are doing fabulously.

Will you be able to get your head down when he visits tomorrow??

Scorps · 02/01/2010 02:14

Much better so far tonight

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Scorps · 02/01/2010 07:36

Very good night she is so small and beautiful and she makes little old man faces. She smells a bit of bf poo right now though....

Have had a good few sleeps in between efficent but loving feeding iyswim - she seems to latch better feeling breast with her old man hands too

I am so hungry again! H is coming today, mum said he can sit with lacey upstairs and I can see ds2 and dd1 downstairs I bet dd1 (19 months) looks ginormous! I miss them too but lacey and I have priority still ATM

rang a friend last night to say about the last month and she actually cheered. She actually was that happy hr is out of my life. She was a distanced friend as he made advances to her a few yrs ago and I thought she made it all up to cause fuss - well that's what he said anyway!

Lacey is fastos on my lap, going to have to change her stinky bum now though!

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PeachyRingsInTheOld · 02/01/2010 11:05

Aw that soundslovelyScorps. LOL

I know itsvery different as I still had DH, but Dh worked nights with ds4 and I did find after a bit that amde night feedings easier tbh- none of that who-will-wake-up-change-nappy-resettle crap (I was bf,,,, well still am).

Hope this visit passes peacefully today, enjoy the others

dizzycringles · 02/01/2010 11:08

ah scorps she sounds divine glad you're getting to see other dc today too

Anniegetyourgun · 02/01/2010 11:35

It's not surprising you sometimes feel as if you're "doing her" rather than enjoying it. One is on call the whole time with a baby and it's massively tiring, so you don't always have the energy to be aware of enjoyment, but the in between times are SO worth it. Hey, you know all this: it's your fourth! You do know what to do, no need to be scared.

Just a suggestion: this about him asking after her lots of times in the day etc, presumably by text? Ditch the mobile. Let the bugger wait for his bulletins. He could be there if he wanted, instead of interrupting your valuable bonding time. You have far more important things to concentrate on, like those amazing facial expressions, and how her little fingers curl (every one's got a perfect tiny fingernail you know). Funnily enough their little toes curl too, if it isn't too cold to dig them out and have a look. I had to inspect DS4's toes to make sure they were the right sort of toes, ie as much as possible like mine. And they are. (They're about as big as mine these days too. How time flies.)

Anniegetyourgun · 02/01/2010 11:35

Or answer the next enquiry with a detailed description of the consistency and odour of her latest poo. See, she's got her mum's eyes, her grandad's hair, and look, coming out the other end: there's daddy!