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Our first Relate appointment is tomorrow, I'm scared.

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Scorps · 14/12/2009 10:12

DH & I are at 'shit or bust' point in our marriage. He came back to the family home on Friday night after 12 days away; He says he doesn't love me anymore. We want to go to counselling and try, because at least if we do split we can say we did everything possible. It has all stemmed from when i mc in Feb i think. I got pg v quickly after, but totally withdrew into myself. Another woman paid him attention and when i was 15 weeks pg he kissed her. Since then i have been terrified and not let him out of my sight, have withdrawn love from him and affection, etc. He would say he loved me and i wouldnt even say anything back.

He is behaving oddly now - saying he doesn't love me, then when i had a 'revelation' this morning saying to him that maybe because of my self worth i should just quit now, i have alot to offer a man etc, he gets upset. We have had sex this weekend too but I'm not allowing that anymore - he can't reach out to me on the sofa, but tries to have sex. I told him today no more of that and he agreed. He said he wants his affection to be true when he does it, and i think thats best too.

He is not nasty; I'm 38+3 weeks with dc4 and he is caring for me and the dc. I have enough money, etc. He is a fantastic father and really wants to go to Relate, but isnt commiting himself to saying he wants our marriage to work.

I'm scared about the appointment, what we will have to talk about, what he will say that will just hurt me more, Relate isn't superglue .

What will happen, any advice, nice things to say to me? Feel like im living life blindfolded. Please dont think he's nasty hes not, its been such a hard year, 2009 has.

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MadameOvary · 27/12/2009 15:10

Scorps that is brilliant.
He hasn't spoken to you for ages? Aw diddums. Enjoy the peace!
And dont worry about being on your own - Peachy'll sort you out there.

Scorps · 27/12/2009 15:13

I said I'm not staying here tonight - he asked why, I said I don't have to want to be around you anymore you know. Didn't like that.

Going off to rugby things for a bit later and sleep at mums. Got the baby some stuff in next sale today too.

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VirginPeachyMotherOfSpod · 27/12/2009 15:17

Oh Goodness yes,MO- biggest rugby team in Wales here and a University.... no problems getting back in the saddle here

Just nobody with anylinks to that town OK?If someones MUm chooses to move there, then summats up IMO. Possibly genetic[ wink]

Scorps · 27/12/2009 15:43

Very nice rugby team here lol

having wobbly moments. Cannot bear thought of him with another woman. Finding the thought of never having sex with him again really hard. He is a bit good at it. And for me to have sex again that means someone has to fancy me. Sigh.

Going down my parents soon.

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Scorps · 27/12/2009 18:46

Havng a wobble. I miss him, what's wrong with me? It hurts. My poor dc. What on earth will life be like, I thought this was it, I was married. He doesn't even care about me I don't even want to deal with a baby I'm so scared

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dizzycringles · 27/12/2009 18:52

of course you're scared but at this moment in time you'd be having all sorts of anxiety issues/panics being so close to labour/new baby

you KNOW you can cope on your own, you've done it before. you KNOW you're a great mum, the kids are living proof of this and you KNOW we're all here as much as we can be

you are allowed to grieve the loss of your relationship, nobody on here will deny you that BUT your sense of self preservation has to kick in right now

am not sure if it makes you feel any better at all but I lost my mum 2 days before having DD3 and I didn't have time to mourn - you are in a period of limbo waiting on DD2 and once she is here you'll be so busy and in love with her he will seem utterly insignificant in the grand scheme of things

keep going darling, keep going

noddyholder · 27/12/2009 18:53

Scroll back and read the message from when you felt stronger and keep reading that plus all the messages of support.reading this i can imagine down the road he is going to be the loser not you but you are too in the thick of it atm.Take all the support you can get from friends and family and set yourself small goals.No one knows what lies ahead any of us could be where you are tomorrow.GHive yourself january being totally involved with your new baby and your own plans and let him sort himself out.best wishes for 2010 he sounds a tosser

VeeEsss · 27/12/2009 18:59

"What on earth will life be like"

Well...you won't be worrying that every text the arse sitting across from you recieves is from another woman.
You won't be petrified every time he goes on holiday or to a fight that he is going to meet someone else.
You'll feel perfectly comfortable that your children will grow up knowing not to treat women the way he treated you.
You'll eventually meet someone else, who will love you, for you, and because you took this shit you won't take it from anyone else.
Life will be great, eventually.

It's not IN you not to succeed Steph, it's just not you! It may FEEL like that right now, but it's because the wound is fresh, hell, the wound ain't even there yet! It's like someone holding a lighter to your skin or pressing a knife down really hard, but not actually causing the pain you know is going to happen. It's emotional torture.

Grieve him, let him go, care for yourself.

xxx

Oh, also, soemthing I thought earlier..why the hell does he keep getting you pregnant yet hasn't paid from his (pretty significant wages) to get a larger house??? Control...

sweetkitty · 27/12/2009 19:20

VeeEsss - you are absolutely right in your description about the emotional torture, Scorps it's like he is keeping you dangling, I don't care what he says about the guilt over hurting you but there is a part of him that is enjoying this power he has over you right now. Any decent human being does not behave like this, the caring for you, washing you, trying to have sex with you whilst all the time telling you he is leaving you 2 weeks after the birth of your child.

It is also completely understandable that you cannot bear the thought of him with someone else and never having sex with him again but tell yourself if he were to stay with you how long would it be before he does have sex with someone else anyway, you are going to live in fear everytime he goes out the door, every text message, every day he is sulking you will think "oh is he going to walk out" so you will try and stop him, pander to him, modify every part of you to try and make him stay, and what kind of life is that?

He is wanting you to try and make him stay, cling to him, need him, want him, he is getting off on this power he has over you.

Be strong tell him to go, he will not be expecting it, you will survive without him I know it seems hard now and impossible but once DD2 is here and you are utterly in love with her you will begin the process of getting over him.

Scorps · 27/12/2009 21:21

Thankyou my parents say the same and I said when out tonight (Chinese) that I don't love him anymore for all this and it felt truthful.

Mum and dad say he has to go, we can stay here at theirs, they will do it all. Mum said that I will get used to him around after baby and then BANG he goes and it will be worse than coping now iyswim.

God no I don't want to worry every text, outing - and I realise another woman will be the same as me 1 day won't she? Worrying, checking.

We have a joint account. I'm cancelling his card tonight and am clearing first thing Tuesday. My parents will support me until benefits, and he has to turn over alot weekly to me for 3dc (ds1 is his dss). Plus his ds1 money will go up as he won't be living with any dc.

My dad said I could write to mil and tell her it all. She knows nothing hardly. My dad basically owns dhs van and we are so tempted to marker pen it with what es done I won't, but the thought is fun

things I am worried about = tiredness, coping, dark times, sex, sharing life.

I know he will see dc and pay for them. My parents are Here always thank god. Cpn tomorrow and mw call too for a sweep.

My daughter will be my focus as well as other dc. I can't wait to bf her in the night, feel her little heat and hands. Dh wants to call her maisie but I have loved lacey for a long time. I'm going to call her lacey.

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BalloonSlayer · 27/12/2009 21:25

Lacey is lovely .

NotanOtter · 27/12/2009 21:27

Scorps [there is no face for the one i am doing so you will have to imagine it!]

you make me come over all maternal reading your threads- you sound do lovely
I must say your family sound the best too!

I am so pleased about Lacey - how lovely and good on you for being strong about this as well

It will be hard and you will be tired - but hopefully you will cope.

H will have them so you will get some time off for a bit of a social life and as you say your m and d will help

As for the sex life bit ...not wanting to sound glib but i have seen many pics of you over the years ( not a stalker honest!!!!) and you are gorgeous - you are bright articulate and funny. DO NOT worry about your sex life (get my drift )

25 years old ....you have a lot ahead of you. A lot of life that will be much better than what H has/is putting you through x

fairycake123 · 27/12/2009 21:32

Aw, Lacey is a beautiful name!

It is good to hear you sounding so strong and positive. Please, please take advantage (in the most positive sense) of the huge resource that your family represents. They want to be there for you, so let them!

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 27/12/2009 21:32

Hi Scorps

Been lurking and reading your story

It will be tough I know but you're doing the right thing

And now you've made your decision you'll feel much better than you have for sometime

Yuletidedog · 27/12/2009 21:34

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MisSalToeKisses · 27/12/2009 21:46

Lacey is lovely

You know what, Scorp, what your parents are telling you are so true. I keep thinking I'm not sure if I should say something, then you surprise me with being ok when they tell you whatever they think. I keep repeating this, but you are really such a strong woman. Milly and Lacey would be proud to be like their mom one day!

Anyway, just to add my voice to the topic - get rid of him now. It will be harder when he leaves later. I'm really sorry to have to say this, but perhaps now, with your family able and willing to be there for you, you should let him go. It's going to happen anyway. Sorry, please tell me to go away if you want.

Scorps · 27/12/2009 23:26

Thanks everyone

Yuletide yes you must be n (my birth attendee everyone!)

I feel strong when I'm at mum an dads, nothing cantouch me here. That's how it feels anyway.

Have watched mum and dad tonight - dads phone beeped, he asked mum to read text out. This is normal yes? Dh always keeps phone in pocket. On silent.

God feels such a massive step to make him go tomorrow. Huge. Unreal. But I feel like a doormat now.

NAO - god I hope I get some sex at some point lol. With a worthy person. And yes, parents are the best.

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dizzycringles · 28/12/2009 08:25

good luck today Scorps - you're doing great

cheerfulvicky · 28/12/2009 08:47

Good luck from me as well. I have been following your whole thread and cheering you on. Your parents sound AMAZING!
Give him hell, love.

sweetkitty · 28/12/2009 09:13

Scorps - you sound so positive, good for you, little things like choosing the name is asserting yourself and I think it goes better too

Hope you find some time today for yourself to relax

MisSalToeKisses · 28/12/2009 10:16

Morning. Thinking of you today.

MadameOvary · 28/12/2009 10:26

Another one thinking of you today Scorps. Dont worry about the wobbles, they are normal. So glad your parents are there for you.

dippymummyto2boys · 28/12/2009 10:34

scorps - I have jusat read the whole thread. You are amazing and I love the name lacey. Good luck with the birth and giving this selfish arse the elbow once and for all.

sending hugs

MoreCrackThanSantasArse · 28/12/2009 10:38

Hope you're still feeling positive today, am absolutely rooting for you, love.

whifflegarden · 28/12/2009 10:39

Good morning!
Hope you're doing well today. Any sign of little Lacey yet?

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