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Opinions and advice sort on my situation

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toot · 23/05/2003 14:19

I had first child in 97. He came early (7wks) so it was all a bit scary. I started NCT lessons but had only done 2 when baby arrived so didnt really bond with any one. After 6 months that were quiet grim (at home for 1st time ever, knew no one except for my elderly neighbours, that sort of thing)I decided to get out there and meet people.

I joined church tods and met J.and B. We got on quiet well and inspite J having habbit of lecturing about everything (from how well her ds slept to the MMR jab) things rubbed along.I detected that J and B got on better than me and J and would often find that I was excluded from conversations because I hadnt been at a particular outing or coffee morning etc but I didnt really mind. I had enough contact not to feel isolated and I had also made friends with C another new mum to the tods group. After a time we were a 4.

Js lecturing and excluding manner grew over a period of time and I can think of many occasions where shed greet my arrival at Bs house with phrases like "oh! didnt expect to see YOU here" or tell me she was busy if I asked her out etc only to find she`d gone to the zoo etc with B.

I gradually became closer friends with C to the point that I asked her to be God mother to my second son and she asked me to be the G.M to her 3rd. I continued to see and be good friends with B who is the "salt of the earth" but over time, reduced contact with J as she always made me feel unwanted or uncomfortable.

My second child was born in 2001, also premature and after a vomit ridden 7 month pregnancy. J and B also had babies 5 weeks either side of mine. To cap my miserable pregnancy, 6 weeks after the baby came my Dad died at only age 58.

B and C sent me cards, offers of help etc but the only mention made of my absence from our group by J was in a telephone conversation when I invited her to my sons baptism. She said "in the nicest possible way, WE have got use to you not being around". I was very upset.

Last Sept Js son, Bs son and my son all started in reception class at the same school. At the school gate, it was all I could do to get J to acknowledge my exsistance some days. She would often not even say good morning or look in my direction and if I ever made a point of making her notice me she`d say "sorry didnt see you".

Our boys get on well and things continued with J and I only seeing each other at school or in the company of B or C at tods.

At Christmas J had asked what we 4 were going to do about christmas gifts for the children. (The year before we had stopped our usual practice of buying them all gifts as there were now 10 kids and B & C weren`t as well off as J and I). I told J that I would fit in with what ever the others wanted to do. J said that every one was not buying gifts this year and thats how we left it.

The following week at tods, I half heard a conversation between J and C about organising christmas gifts. Privately I asked J what had changed the arrangements and she said she had decided to do things on an individual basis with C,B and I. I asked (jokingly) did that mean buying their children gifts but missing out my two - she said yes. She also pointed at my little one and said why would she buy him a gift, she never sees him and he meant nothing to her. I left.

B was upset and tried to patch things up for everybody.J said she had been misunderstood but I knew different.

Since then I have gone out of my way to avoid J. Ironically, for a while she made great efforts to say hello of a morning and engage me in conversation but I didnt bite. B and her continued to do the sort of things they had before eg take each others kids home from school, take their youngest (same age as my youngest) to clubs ect so I made a real effort to get to know the other mums and their kids so as not to appear to be "billy no mates ".

This actually back fired a little as B has recently told C that I`m not around that much and that I seem to have "readjusted my friendship group" I have not a clue what that means.
I had hoped that B would reolise that I avoided her only when she was chatting to J and that when J is not there I happily chat to B .

The final twist in my sorry tail came recently when I was asked by C to go to soft play outing with her and her youngest 2 children (to celebrate one of their birthdays).
My oldest asked why J and Bs sons had been asked to the birthday party but he had not. I said their wasnt a party, just a soft play visit for the younger ones. My son was so sure it was a party I checked with C only to find that J and B (plus all their children) were going for tea at C house after school. C said it was not a party,just tea with a Birthday cake.

I told her I was hurt a/ that my oldest was not asked to either the soft play outing during the day or the tea party in the evening and b/that obviously she had felt J and I would not mix at a social function for a 3 y.o so had bumped me.
C replied that J and B go together as a set.

We havent spoken since. I dont feel she was the person I thought she was.

I continue to see B every week for lunch and our youngest play.

What do you think - too sensitive? stupidly chucking away friends for un important reasons? or did I basically do right.

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toot · 14/09/2003 18:36

Yes please Podmog! How about Tuesday morning ?(if that isn`t an undue amount of haste). The little ones could play in Quarry park or in the little park on Horfield common.

If these aren`t near you perhaps you have another idea.

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toot · 14/09/2003 19:12

Actually podmog, that`ll have to be Friday morning - sorry I forgot about somthing.

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newgirl · 15/09/2003 21:00

that book sounds like it will be exactly the same approach - if its any good, let me know!

Paula71 · 20/09/2003 21:22

How are things going now Toot?

toot · 21/09/2003 19:49

Not doing too bad at all Paula71. Reading my book, enjoying my sons and staying quite positive. I find it easier and easier not to notice/care about J and B at the school gate. Mumsnet really came through for me when I needed it!

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Kazziegirl · 21/09/2003 23:27

Hi toots - I was thinking about you today and wondering how you were going. It's great to hear you being so positive and upbeat. So glad that the support here helped. I know whenever things are tough for me at school - I think of everyone here who has mentioned tough times and it makes me feel less alone. Hope things continue to get easier. Best wishes.

toot · 22/09/2003 20:33

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toot · 28/01/2005 22:52

Right, found my old post and need to update it because I need a little bit more advice.

Quick update first, I took the advise that you all gave me and things did get better. J and B still scare the hell out of me but now Ds is in Y2
I dont have to see B as she waits at the infant door for her middle child and I wait at the main door for my son.

I found myself some new friends ,the south american lady I mentioned (consuela) became a great friend and the mummy whose friendship I had been cultivating (lisa)has remained a friend. J and B definately try to befriend them from time to time (B has had some degree of sucess with both)but I try not to let things get me down as their friendship does not seem to hurt mine. I also made a splendid friend out of another mummy (fran)whose son grew closer to mine over Year 1. Although she works and is not at the school gate, it`s good to have a friend. The final thing I did was to join the governing body as a way of "getting involved".I organised some sessions for the next reception class parents to meet each other and in doing this made another friend Felicity. As well as being nice, her middle child will start school in Sept with my youngest son.The boys have started a friendship.

Sounds quite good doesnt it, now for the down side... Also starting school in september will be Bs youngest daughter and Js youngest son. B is already circling Felicity . Consula and family will return to south america in April, Lisa is considering a move to Australia! and Im dreading next September when Im forced to see B and J every day. I dont know if I can negotiate the mine field of wanting to get to know new people while avoiding them. The final straw that sent me back here to mumsnet was finding out that Bs husband and J have both attended an info evening put on by school for parents whod like to be Governors. Bs husband even asked how you would wind up being the LEA governor(which is me)as opposed to a parent or foundation governor. I feel this indicates irritation that I am a governor and their determination to join in and kill off my fun.

So my questions are - Am I paranoid?

Do I tell Felicity the history between J,B and I or just hope they don`t chum up to her?

How am I going to cope when the reception teacher puts my son on the same table as Felicitys and Js (she mentioned this was her intention during our application for DS2`s place)?

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toot · 28/01/2005 23:06

Cant believe how quickly topics slip down the "active list". Im off to bed now,DH away all weekend and kids will wear me down if I dont get my head down. I thought Id just bump this before I go to attract the attention of you night owls. Crossing my finger for help.

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