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Woke up to dh wanking again and don't know really how I feel :-(

113 replies

MamaAlly · 09/09/2009 05:56

For the past few of weeks I've not been sleeping very well and keep waking around 1.30 - 2am 'ish. Each time I've done this dh is awake and flicking through the sky channels from one porn style / mens movie channel to another and lay there pleasuring himself. Tonight he was doing it again and I feel really unsettled almost quite sick about it.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm in no way opposed to porn or pleasuring yourself but it's the way in which he's doing it thats bothering me.

Over the 15+ years we've been together I've suggested watching something prn'ish / erotic together a few times but each time dh has scrunched up his nose and said he's not into it. No problem and each to their own. I have and always have had quite a high sex drive and would happily partake in sex every night of the week if dh wanted but he's got and always had a low sex drive and 2 - 4 times a month is usually all he wants. If I suggest it or try to instigate it he says I'm a nymph and tells me I put too much emphasis on sex in a relationship !!!!

Like alot of longterm relationships / marriages we've had our low points and I've always tried to put a more effort in and spice things up and add a bit of fun into the relationship. I've bought over the years a selection of various adult toys etc but he just doesn't seem interested in them. He won't under any circumstances let me cuff him to the bed or blindfold him and thinks that if I want to bring any toys into the bed it makes him feel that I'm not happy with what he has to offer. No matter how many times I've tried over and over again to reasure him that I'm very happy and just wanted to add a little bit of spice and something different we could both enjoy he's not impressed with it.

I've accepted the way he feels without any complaints and although he knows where they all are and if he ever decides he would like to try anything out I'm more than happy but I've said no more about the matter.

This is really whats pissing me off tbh, I feel like I don't know him at all, he is well aware that I enjoy to watch him touching / stroking himself and it turns me on and am more than willing to watch or get involved. All the years he's been telling me he's not into porn but I've woken up to him watching it several times now :-(

I just don't know what the hell to think. We had sex on Monday night so it's not like he's gone without for ages and I'd have been more than accommodating had he woke me up as he well knows. I was really quite upset and pissed off about it this time though and just as he climaxed I got up and went to the loo so he knew I was awake. When I came back he'd obviously cleaned it up and rolled over pretending to be asleep.

Now I'm up, going over it all in my head wondering what if anything to say to him and can't get back to fecking sleep

OP posts:
blinks · 10/09/2009 16:38

i'm really glad you can see things more clearly now.

obviously it was the straw that broke the camels back.

SolidGoldBrass · 10/09/2009 17:42

You may be able to throw him out of the house given that you are the main income earner (ie you are the one paying the rent). Whose name is on the deeds/tenancy agreement? IF he has put it all in his name but you are the one doing the actual paying, a solicitor should be able to help you out here.

Radox123 · 10/09/2009 21:03

I've been following this thread for a while now and just wanted to add my tuppenceworth.

Original poster, your post could have been written by me 2 years ago. I was in a relationship with a man who I loved very much. He was very shy,(unless drunk) and I was very outgoing, confident sexually etc, and I think he was attracted to this. After the initial flush sex died away to almost nothing, and when we did have sex, it was all about him. In some areas of his life he was very under-confident, especially socially, and in others he was over confident, almost arrogant. Long story short - He'd do the secret porn watching, wanking in bed beside me thing too. I tried everything. Ignoring it, confronting it, talking to him about that and other areas of our relationship, and he made me feel stupid. I felt like I wasn't good enough for him and that my needs were disgusting and depraved. I was so lonely. It wasn't all about the sexual rejection,but rather the rejection of my needs, thoughts in general, and the basic lack of someone who considered me AT ALL. I used to sob myself to sleep at night, whilst he was up at the PC not coming to bed till the small hours. It wasn't me hassling or putting him off or making him insecure at all. It was him, the way he was. I lost all my confidence, self belief, I felt I was unshaggable and unworthy, and unattractive (I'm not and I wasn't)

Even longer story short. I eventually left. I still loved him but couldn't cope. Me walking away shocked him badly, and to all intents and purposes woke him the fuck up (his words, not mine). I am in a wonderful relationship now, with a man who adores me and we have an amazing relationship, in and out of the bedroom, and yeh we watch porn together on occasion but as part of a loving relationship, not as a sex substitute.

I have spoken to my ex since and we've talked about what happened. He told me he knew how his behaviour was affecting me but he was too selfish to care. The wanking and porn was all about him as he was too immature to deal with the needs and feelings of another person, sexual, emotional, day to day, whatever. He's much less selfish now, and even comes to me occasionally with his "i've met this girl, how do I not be a retarded emotionless fuckwit with her" dilemmas. Haha.

I just wanted to tell you that it isn't you. I think men like this can't, and don't want to deal with other people's emotions. My ex had a "repressed" childhood and a difficult relationship with his parents, and to all intents, didn't grow up until he was forced to by loosing something through his own behaviour and getting badly hurt.

I wish you luck, and send you love. There is life after relationships like these, and there doesn't have to be violence in a relationship to make them abusive. If you get nothing back from the man you love, and he's belittling your needs, it's emotional abuse. I'm living proof you can move on, and I'm so glad I had the courage to see that leaving was the only option (for me).

I know how much it hurts and how confusing it is. Don't waste your life with that sad rejected knotted feeling sitting in your chest. You are worth more than that.

AnyFucker · 10/09/2009 21:06

what a brilliant post

blinks · 11/09/2009 01:27

i concur

BitOfFun · 11/09/2009 10:40
SolidGoldBrass · 11/09/2009 10:58

Radox, that's a great story.

Radox123 · 11/09/2009 12:19

Thanks. As per another thread I've read this morning, I can't believe how much life has changed in such a short time. I used to see years of numbness, frustration, and a flat hurtful, heartbreaking soulcrushing relationship stretching out in front of me. And I accepted that as my lot as my confidence had been crushed so much that I thought that was all there was to life, and that pain and heartache were my lot.

Breaking up is horrible, but a few months of upheaval for a brighter future which involves the return of hope is a small price to pay. The heartache you go throught when you seperate from someone like that is as much for the wasted time, and the future you once thought was yours but which never happened, as the man himself. In my case more.

MamaAlly · 17/09/2009 11:33

Hi all,

Sorry for the delay in replying been so busy trying to sort things out, visits to C.A.B, housing, womens aid ect and barely had a moment to think.

Just wanted to update you all as you've all been so kind and helpful. Just had a call from the housing office with an offer of a house, really happy that it looks lovely from the outside and is in a nice area so feel sure it will be more than suitable. Smaller than I really need but will make do somehow lol. Mixed feelings of excitment and nervousness though now as things have moved on so quickly.

Have tried to speak to dh a couple of times but not got very far and was in the process of trying again just as the call came. Dh obviously knew something was happening and I think must have overheard some of the conversation. I had already braved it to tell him I was leaving but as usual when I tried to discuss anything remotely serious with him he just sat there looked wounded and dismissed what I was trying to say by shaking his head and telling me to 'give over'

Think he's more than a little shocked that I've actively done something and now the end is really in sight. Just need to try to get him to talk about what happens now regarding dc's, finances, ect ect, so wish me luck as I'm not looking forward to that :-) xxx

OP posts:
CrackWhoretoPaulDacre · 17/09/2009 11:37

Oh well done you!

But you don't need to get him to talk about DCs, finances etc - you just have to tell him how it will work - when he can see DCs, that you won't be giving him any more money etc - he'll have to take responsibility for himself for a change.

Well done

cheerfulvicky · 17/09/2009 11:48

Well done, well done!!

Radox123 · 17/09/2009 12:15

Well done Missus!

Some tough times ahead but it'll be worth it in the long run.

xx

2rebecca · 17/09/2009 12:30

Well done. He sounds completely emotionally illiterate.

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