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Am so angry with my parents today (again)

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TheArmadillo · 11/02/2009 21:15

sorry I know it's me whinging again but I am furious with my parents today.

Firstly ds was going over there because they like to have him one day a week to spend time with him. This is the only reason they seem to be in contact with me since I moved (I moved to remove myself from their control - only approx 5 miles but you'd think it was the other side of the world).

So they phone this morning to check still on and ask how my car is (it broke down a couple of weeks ago) and whether I have had it fixed. I say no cos I can't afford it and we are thinking of getting rid of it. I get told I am not allowed (wtf?) to sell it. And why do I keep doing this and I will only be asking them for money for a new car in a few months time (I have never asked them for money for a car, they bought this one for me as my last one broke and they went out and bought me one they would as in their opinion I couldn't be without one - I felt I had little say in the matter). I wasn't allowed to explain why I wanted to get rid of it just told I wouldn't be.

Then when my dad turned up to collect ds he told me they would ask around and see if it was a good idea and whether they would let me sell it. Problem is they insisted on keeping all the paperwork, so although I have a logbook I have none of the history paperwork which obv makes it more difficult to sell. And we genuinely can't afford to repair it adn we don't use it now we've moved so it seems pointless paying out for all the insurance etc.

Then they phoned later, and after telling me that they had bathed ds (because when was they last time I did it? - erm last night actually) that dad couldn't bring him home but my sister would.

2 hours later I phone to see why he isn't back and they say apparently despite her satnav she couldn't find my house, and drove round for 90mins before giving up and going home. She had her mobile but at no point phoned me to ask me to direct her. She was going to give him food (as he had been in car so long apparently) and then bring him back.

Then an hour or so later they phone to say they are not returning him tonight it will be tomorrow.

Am mightly suspicous of my sister's story. I don't think she is telling the full truth.
a) I know several people who have used the same make of sat nav to find our house with no problem
b) our house is easy to find anyways even if you don't know the area
c) why didn't she phone me and ask me directions from where she was? She said it was because she didn't have my landline number, but she had my mobile or she could have called my mum to get it off her.

On top of this dp was suspended from work (luckily on full pay) yesterday.

I worried I am being punished for moving. I am also worried about what will happen if they refuse to return ds tomorrow - though a friend has offered to go get him if they do. They claim I am an appalling mother (my parents, not friend) and I am worried they are planning something.

I want to scream.

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TheArmadillo · 11/02/2009 21:38

dp agrees to leave him there tonight. Ds will be asleep by now and disrupting him will scare him. As far as he is concerned he is just having a sleep over at gps.

If I thought he was in any risk to his safety I'd go tonight, but I know he is not.

Not upsetting him is the most important thing to me.

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LuckySalem · 11/02/2009 21:39

TA - Your very calm if I were in your position I would be driving down there AT SPEED to collect my DD.
Esp at the threat that she may be taken somewhere that she had a bad experience.

Lilyloo · 11/02/2009 21:40

Agree with Raven if he is in bed it may be best to leave it until first thing tomorrow.

However i would ring them let them know you are unhappy and that you will be collecting him at x time in the morning. Take it that will be first thing in case they decide to go to aunts ?

mixedmamameansbusiness · 11/02/2009 21:41

You know what is best for your DS TA... i just cant understand why they wouldnt follow what you want... my parents just do as i ask, my dc go there every weekend and my mum asks what time i want them back and she brings them back... never would they just assume to keep them. i think a serious talk is necessary. i would consider taking the day off work and going and getting him in the morning and having plans next time they call... but you will know what is best for your situation.

HecateQueenOfGhosts · 11/02/2009 21:42

And they've won, haven't they?

They have the control. They decide they are not bringing your son back, and you say oh, ok then. They are in charge. What they are saying to you is very clear, if you would but take your fingers out of your ears.

I think you didn't move far enough away.

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PortofinosDHwillDieIfHeForgets · 11/02/2009 21:50

I agree with Hecate! I have no clue what makes people behave like this, but I wouldn't want to have ANYTHING to do with them.

You need to take the control back! You've already lost out financially - DO NOT let them continue to mess with your family.

TheArmadillo · 11/02/2009 21:50

I probably sound calmer than I am - I have ranted and raved at home for the last few hours.

They have now promised to return him first thing - they need some paperwork I have (for some stuff to do with house) and they need to collect it in morning. They know if they don't return him they don't get it. So all is calm.

They won't be having him again though I don't think.

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ComeWhineWithMe · 11/02/2009 21:52

I don't want to worry you but you are saying your ds will be happy and just assume that he is having a sleepover but at 4 he is old enough to pick up on tension and it sounds like your parents and sister have had some issues today and will have discussed them with each other probably in his earshot ,I would be picking him up.

PortofinosDHwillDieIfHeForgets · 11/02/2009 21:53

I wouldn't be handing over any paperwork in a hurry either if I was you. DS in house. Door closed. See how THEY like it!

TheArmadillo · 11/02/2009 21:55

I know they have won in a way but I don't care as long as ds isn't upset and I will be taking steps to not let it happen again.

I am losing the will to fight them at moment. I am exhausted from it. But worse comes to worse and I can turn off the phone and lock all the doors.

I am looking into private counselling at moment because I can't sort out the rest on my own now. I need to get the fight back.

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newgirl · 11/02/2009 21:56

i agree that not picking him up at this time is probably ok

this has to end though

are you tied to them in some way? do they pay the bills? can you become more independent of them? this sounds a very toxic set up and i think some sort of counselling is needed

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mixedmamameansbusiness · 11/02/2009 21:56

Oh Armadillo - tonight aside i really feel for you. the fact that you feel you need counselling makes me so sad, i hope you get what you need and it all gets better.

newgirl · 11/02/2009 21:58

family counselling can be a very positive thing - a trained counsellor can allow people to talk about things in a safe way so it doesnt become ranting at each other

its a brave move but it could be a fantastic thing

charitygirl · 11/02/2009 22:00

I hate to sound inflammatory but your parents sound seriously mentally unbalanced.

YOu sound normal, albeit you still see too much of your parents. I'm sure I've seen your posts before and it sounds like you've made strides.

Keep making them. Your sister never had any intention of returning your son, did she really even get in the car?

You say your priority is not upsetting your DS. Which is good, but your main priority should be minimising contact with your parents. Down to zero in the long term. Can you imagine that? How would that make you feel?

I admire you - that kind of parenting would have done my head in a long time ago.

TheArmadillo · 11/02/2009 22:01

I thought I was doing ok and then today it all turned to shit again.

I'll get out of this eventually somehow, but it'll take time.

Financially now they can't screw me over without screwing themselves up worse and they won't do that. The rest of it I'll deal with but it will take time.

The worry about dp is also taking it's toll, but there's nothing we can do but wait and see.

If I had moved a million miles away I'd still be having similar problems.

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mixedmamameansbusiness · 11/02/2009 22:02

are you financially dependent on them then?? perhaps if you must see them to keep a civil relationship suggest activites you can all do together so you ans DS can just go home after

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TheArmadillo · 11/02/2009 22:07

what to do about ds is something I have been puzzling over for a logn time.

He adores them adn to take that away completely would be hard on him - he would survive it but it's still something I am worrying about. That's one of the things I am hoping that I can sort out in counselling.

I don't want to cut him off from people he adores, but if they pull more stunts like this then I will have to be careful. Also I know as he gets older then we will have problems because that's when tehy will get annoyed - when they can't make him do adn think what they want him to do and think. I also don't want him in a position of divided loyalties.

Funnily enough the only one of them he doesn't care for is my sister. Cos she winds him up continually or completely ignores him. This is someone who works with kids for a living and apparently loves them

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Haribosmummy · 11/02/2009 22:13

I'd kill anyone who kept my DS. and they certainly would'nt ever see him again.

I have no clue how you are so calm. I'd be ballistic. In fact, I FEEL irate just thinking about another person having my child.

There must be more to this that you feel so relaxed. Why aren't you screaming from the roof tops?

TheArmadillo · 11/02/2009 22:13

legally i am still jointly responsible for the mortgage but in actuality they are paying all of it.

They need the paperwork to sort this out.

Apart from the car I have got rid of everything they gave me and apart from the mortgage/house stuff that is being sorted I am not laible for anything.

I am not financially dependant on them - apart from the stuff that is being sorted. I took my name off everything except the house and mortgage which are being sorted.

My parents have never had loans/credit cards (apart from mortgage) and would never let themselves be blacklisted or get into money problems. Therefore they won't screw me over cos it would hurt them financially more. They know I can't and won't pay the stuff so they will.

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Haribosmummy · 11/02/2009 22:15

You sound more interested in money than your son.

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