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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

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Right, listen up everybody.

867 replies

RealityIsMyOnlyValentine · 04/02/2009 08:00

I shall say this only once.

Actually, no I won't, I will keep repeating it until the message gets through.

Every person deserves to have a relationship where they are treated with respect, love and equality.

There is never an excuse for verbal, physical or financial abuse.

If you partner treats you like shit, it is their fault. It is not because of something you have done.

You can't change an abusive man by being 'better' or sticking by him where others haven't, or by changing yourself.

Most people have happy relationships, where disagreements happen and are resolved without resorting to shouting, name calling or violence or screwing someone else.

Most people's partners are happy for them to pursue their own friendships and interests, work and education, have access to money, make decisions.

Most people in a relationship stay faithful. They don't have affairs or cyber-sex or obsessively wank over porn day and night.

Don't be fooled into thinking that dysfunctional relationships are the norm. There are many of them on here, but then people don't tend to ask for advice on healthy relationships, so we hear less about them.

Relationships are not supposed to be hard work, that is a big fat myth. Yes, you should work at your relationship but that is not the same thing at all.

Nobody should live their life in fear of angering their partner, or skirting round issues that might upset him. Or put up with cheating and lying for fear of rocking the boat.

Nobody should 'stay together for the children', or because of your marriage vows. If your husband treats you badly, he has broken the vows. Children are much much happier being brought up by parents who live apart than in an atmosphere of fear and loathing.

Just because you've escaped a level 10 bastard, doesn't mean you should settle for the level 8 one that comes along. The only acceptable level of abuse is none.

Just because all your friends are in bad relationships, doesn't mean that you have to be.

I really want to debunk the myth that all men are bastards. They simply aren't. If you feel that all the men you meet are, it's because you are unconsciously sending out vibes to these men. They can spot a target a mile off.

Be on your own. It is much easier than sticking by a tosser. If you have been in more than one abusive relationship, seek some counselling, you may be co-dependant, or you may be modelling relationships on a warped template, perhaps from childhood.

If he abuses you, he is not a good father. Good fathers don't treat the mother of their children with disrespect.

It doesn't matter how much he says sorry and makes it up to you, if he continues to abuse you those apologies are worthless.

Don't be fooled into thinking the abuse isn't 'bad enough to leave'. If you are treated in any way less than cherished, loved and respected, it is bad enough to leave.

There is never a reason to stay with an abusive man. He won't kill himself if you leave him, he won't take your children, and yes, everybody will believe you.

I probably have loads more to say on the subject but I will leave it there for now.

Much love to everybody.

OP posts:
Janos · 27/08/2010 11:40

Yep, fab post - much deserved bump from me too.

HerBeatitude · 18/09/2010 09:06

this thread needs bumping again

tallwivglasses · 18/09/2010 19:19

THANKS for reviving this one.

There seems to be an awful lot of threads about horrible, toxic, downright CRUEL husbands/partners at the moment. Where did they learn that it's okay to treat their women like this? What are we teaching our sons? And daughters?

dontdisstheteens · 20/09/2010 23:54

Bump

findanewnamequick · 09/12/2010 04:50

Bump

detachandtrustyourself · 10/12/2010 12:35

Bump

detachandtrustyourself · 10/12/2010 12:51

Bump

googoomama · 10/12/2010 22:09

That is the best thing I have read in years. I'm going to print it out and keep it by the PC to remind myself of its truth. Thank you thank you xx

StewieGriffinsMom · 10/01/2011 22:11

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

FreudianSlipIntoMyLaptop · 10/01/2011 22:43

What a fabulous OP.

I often think - usually after reading MN - how lucky I am to have a DH who treats me with love and respect. But actually, I shouldn't be 'lucky' - I'm a person, I deserve it. If that makes any sense.

:)

longweight · 10/01/2011 22:51

This thread is amazing, well said OP

Mimblesson · 11/01/2011 07:21

Bump again! An excellent post.

CoffeeDodger · 21/01/2011 11:57

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Scruffyhound · 21/01/2011 12:06

Very good. I agree staying with the husband for the kids sake is no good. Sometimes people are not sure I think thats why here is good as people can talk of their relationships and someone can say no thats wrong or well its just not that bad really. Nice one!! Smile

darleneconnor · 20/02/2011 10:57

bumping this again, as unfortunately it seems necessary

DreamsInBinary · 07/03/2011 23:49

Bump. Cannot be read too often.

CheerfulMe · 08/03/2011 09:46

Oh good, glad this has been bumped, I was wondering where it was and wanting to have a re-read :)

post · 08/03/2011 10:22

and another bump on international womens day!

Skifit · 08/03/2011 10:43

Brilliant Realityisyonlyvaletine.... here here,
So nice to read some good, sensible stuff on here, and not the total rubbish some people post.

Your words and thoughts should be bumped and echoed everywhere. Are you a marriage Councillor ?

You must put it on a placard at The Well Woman Centre.. plus, we need more of those.

atswimtwolengths · 08/03/2011 11:01

Am I the only person who finds this thread patronising?

Anniegetyourgun · 08/03/2011 12:46

Yes. Now go back to your kitchen, there's a dear. (Pats atswim on the head.)

Sadly, the points are not self-evident to everyone. They shouldn't need stating explicitly, but IMO they do. Haven't you noticed how many people start a thread describing an absolutely awful relationship by saying they're no angel themselves and/or they can't really expect any better after x years of marriage? As long as anyone believes they deserve to be treated like shit by their life partners, parents, siblings or friends, this thread will be useful.

atswimtwolengths · 08/03/2011 18:11

How nice to be patronised yet again, Annie.

The points are plainly not self-evident to everyone, but in my opinion there's a place for saying such things and that's where the person has asked for support or advice.

LadyBiscuit · 08/03/2011 18:18

Disagree. It's good to remind women what a decent relationship looks like. Christ knows, there have been several threads started in the last few days which show that quite a few of them are woefully unaware.

lionlilac · 08/03/2011 18:52

Fab job. This post should remain permanently on MN.
Going to make copies and hand them out to a few friends that need to see that actual advice in black and white. Thank you Smile

hairylights · 08/03/2011 19:47

Thanks. Needed to see this again.

Sod the nay Sayers, some of us find this exceptionally helpful.