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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

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Right, listen up everybody.

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RealityIsMyOnlyValentine · 04/02/2009 08:00

I shall say this only once.

Actually, no I won't, I will keep repeating it until the message gets through.

Every person deserves to have a relationship where they are treated with respect, love and equality.

There is never an excuse for verbal, physical or financial abuse.

If you partner treats you like shit, it is their fault. It is not because of something you have done.

You can't change an abusive man by being 'better' or sticking by him where others haven't, or by changing yourself.

Most people have happy relationships, where disagreements happen and are resolved without resorting to shouting, name calling or violence or screwing someone else.

Most people's partners are happy for them to pursue their own friendships and interests, work and education, have access to money, make decisions.

Most people in a relationship stay faithful. They don't have affairs or cyber-sex or obsessively wank over porn day and night.

Don't be fooled into thinking that dysfunctional relationships are the norm. There are many of them on here, but then people don't tend to ask for advice on healthy relationships, so we hear less about them.

Relationships are not supposed to be hard work, that is a big fat myth. Yes, you should work at your relationship but that is not the same thing at all.

Nobody should live their life in fear of angering their partner, or skirting round issues that might upset him. Or put up with cheating and lying for fear of rocking the boat.

Nobody should 'stay together for the children', or because of your marriage vows. If your husband treats you badly, he has broken the vows. Children are much much happier being brought up by parents who live apart than in an atmosphere of fear and loathing.

Just because you've escaped a level 10 bastard, doesn't mean you should settle for the level 8 one that comes along. The only acceptable level of abuse is none.

Just because all your friends are in bad relationships, doesn't mean that you have to be.

I really want to debunk the myth that all men are bastards. They simply aren't. If you feel that all the men you meet are, it's because you are unconsciously sending out vibes to these men. They can spot a target a mile off.

Be on your own. It is much easier than sticking by a tosser. If you have been in more than one abusive relationship, seek some counselling, you may be co-dependant, or you may be modelling relationships on a warped template, perhaps from childhood.

If he abuses you, he is not a good father. Good fathers don't treat the mother of their children with disrespect.

It doesn't matter how much he says sorry and makes it up to you, if he continues to abuse you those apologies are worthless.

Don't be fooled into thinking the abuse isn't 'bad enough to leave'. If you are treated in any way less than cherished, loved and respected, it is bad enough to leave.

There is never a reason to stay with an abusive man. He won't kill himself if you leave him, he won't take your children, and yes, everybody will believe you.

I probably have loads more to say on the subject but I will leave it there for now.

Much love to everybody.

OP posts:
removalizer · 20/11/2018 20:18

@spinningworld why not try online dating to get your confidence back ?

sheghostrider · 21/11/2018 07:03

@removalizer

I will steer clear from OLD as that’s how I met him. Things have progressed a lot since my post on here and not in the right direction. But it will sort itself out one way or another

Diamond2014 · 21/11/2018 15:13

True

maza22 · 10/12/2018 20:38

Well said.this was me 10 mnths ago i put up with it for a lot of years but having left i am happier than ever and wishing i had done it sooner anyone who has gone through it will tell you the same my tip is only look back to see how far you've come. Newyear new me

Mel985 · 17/12/2018 17:35

Well said. My partner is financially abusive and also calls me names sometimes in front of our two young children, so much so that my 9 year old turned around and said to me that he feels his Dad is mean to me and said we need to do something about it.

Oldlakewilsonroad · 24/12/2018 16:40

OP. I really really needed this today. My partner broke up with me this morning. I have been in an unhealthy relationship for far too long (9 years) for all the wrong reasons. I’m going to keep reading this again and again to help me through the next few hours, days, weeks....

RGNstaffnurse · 26/12/2018 07:58

Excellent post, I hope those who need to take note. I have always said. ‘If you make yourself a doormat others will walk all over you.’

MulticolourMophead · 04/01/2019 21:48

I re-read this thread from time to time, to remind myself how bad things got. I posted some time ago under another name, but this thread helped me to leave, along with the DCs. And still, the ex is all MeMeMe. DCs don't want to know and don't remain in contact.

DCs are egging me on to try dating in the summer, and are helping me in getting into physical shape (will help my self-esteem, and also my health...). The nutcases are even trying style advice Grin which isn't really going to work as my style is a cross between hippy and metalhead Grin

Endoftether1987 · 06/01/2019 18:00

I'm beginning to feel pathetic posting on here when women are being abused so badly. Basically I've had enough. I just cooked a roast dinner, I washed the pots and cleaned the kitchen and came in to find my living room in a total mess. I asked my husband to help me but he kept saying 'no, I'm watching the football'. I was so angry I started crying and turn he started mocking me for that. He did get up and help then. But I just needed some support. I get that the football was on but every night I cook and clean and he is in charge of the living room. Why should it be ok to ignore it all because of the football???

NotTheFunKind666 · 11/01/2019 13:59

Truth!

Croeso78 · 16/01/2019 11:24

Brilliant!
Everybody deserves to be happy! took me 16 years to be brave and leave...But I did it and I am so happy. once you take the first step it gets easier and easier!

Curveball9 · 29/01/2019 13:24

"Just because you've escaped a level 10 bastard, doesn't mean you should settle for the level 8 one that comes along. The only acceptable level of abuse is none."

My favourite!! Smile

frankiesamson · 31/01/2019 02:26

If everyone listened to this there'd be no more relationships full stop. We'd all be single.

SpamChaudFroid · 01/02/2019 08:24

If everyone listened to this there'd be no more relationships full stop. We'd all be single

Do you have really low expectations from a partner @frankiesamson? Perhaps think women are a wee bit bolshy?

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ThunderThighs123 · 03/03/2019 10:23

Fantastic post, OP.

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blackteasplease · 29/03/2019 12:13

Have we had the MRAs on here or something?

Just looked back at this after some time (6 months away from EA ex) and it's still so good.

Smilemumof2 · 04/04/2019 18:28

Hi

I'm still a newbie on here, looking for advice really.
My husband have been together 9 married for 2, got to kids, 7 & 4.
When my daughter was born he was emotionally abusive, constantly criticizing me made me feel worthless, got angry around the kids and I always tried diffusing situations , walking on eggshells constantly.
Last year I hit rock bottom said I was leaving he convinced me to stay tried to leave again he persuaded me he'd changed.
He has definitely been nicer
But I can't forget what he did.
He once called my children c**ts to their faces.
Anyway a year on I want him to leave, every day I think I'll do it I'll do it but never do
It's so frustrating I think I'm scared, possibly not confident in my own decision making and feel guilty.
How do you find the strength to have the conversation??
Please help
X

SchoolofHardKnocks · 21/04/2019 21:16

Just wanted to say Thank You to OP. I can’t count the number of times I’ve returned to this post some it first appeared, and how, finally, I took steps to leave a bad situation.

I’m still not fully extricated, but I’m working on getting there, and even on the hardest days, it’s all been worth and sooooo much better for me, and most importantly, for the kids, who should never have seen or been subjected to his behaviour.

Thank you. xx

Amilou19 · 30/04/2019 11:46

Could someone help me with helplines ?
I’ve phoned woman’s aid for advise - busy (as expected !) Any other helplines you can recommend

LondonNiki · 06/05/2019 01:50

@Amilou19 sorry for the late response

can you try -

0808 2000 247 (24 hours) Women's Aid Federation

I hope you'll get the help you need x

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