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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

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Right, listen up everybody.

867 replies

RealityIsMyOnlyValentine · 04/02/2009 08:00

I shall say this only once.

Actually, no I won't, I will keep repeating it until the message gets through.

Every person deserves to have a relationship where they are treated with respect, love and equality.

There is never an excuse for verbal, physical or financial abuse.

If you partner treats you like shit, it is their fault. It is not because of something you have done.

You can't change an abusive man by being 'better' or sticking by him where others haven't, or by changing yourself.

Most people have happy relationships, where disagreements happen and are resolved without resorting to shouting, name calling or violence or screwing someone else.

Most people's partners are happy for them to pursue their own friendships and interests, work and education, have access to money, make decisions.

Most people in a relationship stay faithful. They don't have affairs or cyber-sex or obsessively wank over porn day and night.

Don't be fooled into thinking that dysfunctional relationships are the norm. There are many of them on here, but then people don't tend to ask for advice on healthy relationships, so we hear less about them.

Relationships are not supposed to be hard work, that is a big fat myth. Yes, you should work at your relationship but that is not the same thing at all.

Nobody should live their life in fear of angering their partner, or skirting round issues that might upset him. Or put up with cheating and lying for fear of rocking the boat.

Nobody should 'stay together for the children', or because of your marriage vows. If your husband treats you badly, he has broken the vows. Children are much much happier being brought up by parents who live apart than in an atmosphere of fear and loathing.

Just because you've escaped a level 10 bastard, doesn't mean you should settle for the level 8 one that comes along. The only acceptable level of abuse is none.

Just because all your friends are in bad relationships, doesn't mean that you have to be.

I really want to debunk the myth that all men are bastards. They simply aren't. If you feel that all the men you meet are, it's because you are unconsciously sending out vibes to these men. They can spot a target a mile off.

Be on your own. It is much easier than sticking by a tosser. If you have been in more than one abusive relationship, seek some counselling, you may be co-dependant, or you may be modelling relationships on a warped template, perhaps from childhood.

If he abuses you, he is not a good father. Good fathers don't treat the mother of their children with disrespect.

It doesn't matter how much he says sorry and makes it up to you, if he continues to abuse you those apologies are worthless.

Don't be fooled into thinking the abuse isn't 'bad enough to leave'. If you are treated in any way less than cherished, loved and respected, it is bad enough to leave.

There is never a reason to stay with an abusive man. He won't kill himself if you leave him, he won't take your children, and yes, everybody will believe you.

I probably have loads more to say on the subject but I will leave it there for now.

Much love to everybody.

OP posts:
Redoubtable · 07/09/2014 21:48

Good fathers don't treat the mother of their children with disrespect

^^^THIS.

If I had one wish that could be granted, it would be that ex-H could understand how to be respectful to someone he resents.

It is so damaging to my beautiful DC to see how nonchalantly rude and disrespectful their father is to me.

rumbleinthrjungle · 01/10/2014 17:57

Bump, a couple of posters could use this post right now.

NorksAreMesssy · 01/10/2014 18:24

And another bump to help it on its way to those who need it

CatKisser · 01/10/2014 18:26

So glad this has been bumped, there are so many very sad threads at the moment.

IPokeBadgers · 03/10/2014 21:06

So glad to see this again. A few posters really need to read this wonderfully wise piece of writing.

Momagain1 · 04/10/2014 21:35

Bump

RowanMumsnet · 07/10/2014 10:04

What do we think about moving this to Classics? Or is it better left in Relationships?

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 07/10/2014 13:27

Bump

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 07/10/2014 13:32

Hi Rowan,
There are times when a thread comes up and it is felt that OP of that thread should read this so a regular MNer will bump it ( or link it-but I'm not that great with links).
Will it be as easy to find in "Classics"? (I am not familiar with that.)

beautyfades · 07/10/2014 13:37

Love this. X

IMNOTYOURBABES · 07/10/2014 13:38

Could it have a permanent spot at the top of 'relationships' ??

CateBlanket · 07/10/2014 13:49

Most useful left in Relationships. classics is usually for daft stuff that some people find hilarious.

StercusAccidit · 23/12/2014 01:37

Bump x

NorksAreMessy · 23/12/2014 04:58

Bump

AltheaVestrit · 23/12/2014 07:57

I'm going to send this for my brother to read. I think he's a victim.

GoatsDoRoam · 23/12/2014 09:15

Could it please be a sticky at the top of Relationships?

RowanMumsnet · 30/12/2014 09:58

In the light of the widespread love for the opening post, and the fact that it's now nearly six (!) years old and we still get requests to sticky it... we've done so.

This is probably a one-off so please don't be offended if we don't sticky other useful/lovely threads Grin

NettleTea · 30/12/2014 10:20

well done MN!!!

Vivacia · 30/12/2014 10:23

I think it's great that this is a sticky and I think it's great that we're not going to have any further stickies Smile

MistressDeeCee · 30/12/2014 10:38

Brilliant post I wish it could be pinned to the top of the Relationships Board...

Vivacia · 30/12/2014 10:40
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TonightTonight · 30/12/2014 11:30

Well done!

GoatsDoRoam · 30/12/2014 11:32

SO glad to see this as a sticky on the Relationships board! Thanks Rowan.

loganberry12 · 30/12/2014 11:33

Excellent advice hope you don't mind but I have copied this & keeping it as my bible x

Pastmyduedate0208 · 30/12/2014 16:40

This post made me cry.

This isn't a protest btw!