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I don't feel like I matter to anyone.

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SilentScreamingIntoTheAbyss · 28/10/2026 22:16

Just that really. I don't feel like I matter to anyone.

I've always struggled a bit with friendships. Always been on the periphery and I'm not really sure why.

There are people I refer to as 'friends' but it would be more accurate to describe them as people I know. There are maybe 3 or 4 people who I know well enough to suggest meeting for lunch or coffee with who will come but won't if I suggest doing anything else. But it ends up being an information exchange of things we have done, how our children are doing, funny anecdotes from life. We always have a nice time, it's always positive but then nothing until and unless I make contact and invite them for coffee. If I suggest doing anything else, they're never free and so the information exchange is all it ever is. And only ever when I suggest it. They don't ever make the first contact and invite me for coffee etc. I've concluded that it's because I just dont really matter to them.

Eg

I have a friend from university. We meet to catch up every summer. This year, I had a lot on in my personal life and didn't get in touch. And so we didn't meet. There was no, "Hey, how are you? I haven't heard from you," message. Nothing.

And that's how it is. A friend of 10 years who I was really close to at one point dwindled down to this and then I left it to see if I'd hear from her first. Nothing. I haven't seen her for 2 years now.

A friend I occasionally meet for coffee but I'm not a priority and she will often cancel. Ive tried suggesting doing things i knownsje likes. I've invited her and her husband to things with my partner and me because I know they like him. But no. So I've left it now. So we no longer meet.

Thats how it is with everyone. I'm not a horrible person I'm not negative, I'm not needy. Whenever I meet up with someone, we have a lovely time. I remember things they've told me, we have common ground, I ask questions of them, I share things of myself. Just what everyone seems to do. I know I'm being negative in this thread but thats not how I usually am.

And so it continues.

I have a partner of 5 years. I have never really opened up to him about how I feel about this. It's embarrassing to have no friends. I feel ashamed. I don't let him know that I only meet these people when I suggest it and have always just said, "Oh I'm going out for lunch with X on Thursday," or "I spoke with Y today. We're going out next Tuesday," etc.

But no one ever thinks, oh, I haven't heard from X for a while. I wonder how she is? Or sees something and thinks of me. I've not fallen out with these people. Not had a cross word. I just don't matter to them. So, unless its me making the contact or the arrangements, they just dont think of me.

So, my partner and I were just chatting this evening and the conversation went this way and I found myself opening up to him. I relayed some objectively bad experiences but just told him how I feel generally and said specifically that I don't feel like I matter to anyone.

He listened to me and said nothing. I paused and hebsaid nothing. So I continued - just getting it off my chest really. And I realised he just had nothing to say. So I stopped talking. He just stood up and started washing up - we were listening to music and talking at the kitchen table. He finished and asked if I wanted a cup of tea. I said I didn't. He asked if I were sure. I said i was. He said he was making one and taking it to bed. I said ok.

And so he did.

I've just been up to get something from the bedroom and he is siting in bed with his cup of tea scrolling through Facebook.

I'm now sitting in the garden silently screaming into the abyss because I really, really don't matter to anyone.

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Lavenderwindow · 28/10/2026 22:27

Sorry OP, that sounds shit and your partner sounds really cold and unsupportive. Is he loving at other times ?

I'm terrible at staying in touch with friends so I'm not a good person to give advice, but I wonder about the possibility of joining a club or activity where you see people regularly and get to know them over time ? I do think it's hard with people who don't make an effort and sometimes the only way is to make new friends. There will be other people out there who also want to matter to someone. You sound lovely and I'm sure there are people who would be delighted to have you as a friend. It's just a case of finding them. Don't give up.

SilentScreamingIntoTheAbyss · 28/10/2026 22:47

Thank you, but I don't think I do sound lovely, tbh.

I sound a bit pathetic!

He is loving at other times, yes. Which is why I'm still with him. But he's still in bed on his phone. I can see his light is on. And I'm still in the garden wondering where I go from here.

I have joined hobbies and groups over the years. That's how I've met most of these people. I've known most of them for between 10 and 25 years. Some I've known for less time. At one point, I'd have said we were good friends. These are people I socialised with, shared joys and sorrows with and holidayed with. People I've supported through hard times and who've been there for me too when life threw a curveball. But it counts for nothing in the long run.

I understand that there are friends for a reason, a season and a lifetime but I've never found the lifetime even when I've thought I might have. Always a reason or a season.

I can't help but think it's be me. That must be doing something wrong.

Or perhaps I really just don't matter.

It really worries me sometimes (quite often) that one day I will die and my children will arrange a funeral that no one will attend.

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Minasama · 28/10/2026 22:51

You sound lovely OP, and it’s a shame your partner couldn’t find the words to be supportive. My guess is that he didn’t know what to say rather than that he didn’t care.

I relate to what you say. I think a lot of people are bad at keeping in touch.

SilentScreamingIntoTheAbyss · 28/10/2026 23:02

Minasama · 28/10/2026 22:51

You sound lovely OP, and it’s a shame your partner couldn’t find the words to be supportive. My guess is that he didn’t know what to say rather than that he didn’t care.

I relate to what you say. I think a lot of people are bad at keeping in touch.

Maybe. But even a hug would have done.

Just making a cup of tea and taking it to bed?

When I went up to get something and saw that he was sitting in bed with his cup of tea and scrolling through fb, he asked if I was ok. I said I was because how could I say anything else? I was telling him I wasn't ok when he went upstairs with his cup of tea. He knows I'm not ok.

It's ok. I know now not to share my inner thoughts or to be vulnerable with him. I know he isn't/can't be/doesn't want to be that person for me.

But who do I talk to? Who do you share/be yourself with when you don't matter to anyone?

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Floridamonths · 28/10/2026 23:09

I can totally relate to what you are saying. Is it worth trying again with your partner?

Was he definitely listening?

SilentScreamingIntoTheAbyss · 28/10/2026 23:15

Floridamonths · 28/10/2026 23:09

I can totally relate to what you are saying. Is it worth trying again with your partner?

Was he definitely listening?

He was listening. Very intently. Or at least he was sat across the kitchen table and was looking at me and didn't appear to be distracted.

It's not worth trying again tonight. I can see he's turned his bedside lamp off now (I'm still in the garden).

I won't try again. What's the point? Even a, "I had no idea you felt like this. I don't know what to say," response would have been something.

Instead, I got the 'no response is a response' response.

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Floridamonths · 28/10/2026 23:18

I get it. I'm sorry.

I've been in a really similar situation.

What do you think would help you right now?

Paradoes · 28/10/2026 23:30

I get it. I totally get it. I think with your partner he doesnt know what to say. Thst doesnt make it right. My husband is the same.

It took me years to get the message through to him that is not normal not to respond. Then I looked back on his parents marriagr and it wasnt affectionate.

But back to you- I totally see how lonely it is. I keep a tight circle now. So no one gets to use me or hurt me. But my job gives me great fulfilment as do my kids.

I wish I could give you a big hug. You are worth SO much more.

SilentScreamingIntoTheAbyss · 28/10/2026 23:33

What do you think would help you right now?

Thats a really good question and, tbh, I don't know.

Crying and just getting it out. But I don't think that would help. Being told that it's ok and some people just don't matter and, by the morning, I'll just be ok with it again. But I don't think anyone would say that. Being given permission to just step away from the world. But I have adult children and I'm all they have. A hug. But there isn't one.

I don't know.

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Blackbird2409 · 28/10/2026 23:34

I can totally relate to your story. Sounds exactly like mine. I’ve started to just think to hell with it lol. I’m quite happy in my own company, my small family, my partner and a couple of friends we spend time with. I sometimes think friends let you down in the end!

SilentScreamingIntoTheAbyss · 28/10/2026 23:39

I totally see how lonely it is.

I am lonely. I think that's the crux of it.

I feel like I'm silently screaming and so no one can hear it. No one 'sees' me. No one cares enough to ask if I'm ok and actually hear the answer.

No one notices when I'm quiet. No one remembers me.

But I'm not ok.

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OsfameronTanamoril · 28/10/2026 23:41

Big hugs. Totally relate. My friends and family are scattered over the world.

Willweeverfindout · 28/10/2026 23:55

We have all been there. And also at times, we should all do better. It’s not just you. It’s an epidemic. Your parter went up to look at his socials because being social and there for you was too difficult. I definitely wouldn’t blame yourself. You sound lovely. But yes, life gets bloody lonely. X

Queenmax · 29/10/2026 00:06

I feel the same, minus a partner.

SilentScreamingIntoTheAbyss · 29/10/2026 00:06

Willweeverfindout · 28/10/2026 23:55

We have all been there. And also at times, we should all do better. It’s not just you. It’s an epidemic. Your parter went up to look at his socials because being social and there for you was too difficult. I definitely wouldn’t blame yourself. You sound lovely. But yes, life gets bloody lonely. X

It wouldnt be so bad if I believed that it was too difficult.for him. Or if I thought that he'd come to me tomorrow and tell me he hadn't known what to say today but...

But he won't. He'll leave for work before I'm awake, he'll go to the gym after work as usual, he'll come home and everything will be normal. We'll chat, we'll joke and we'll laugh like tonight never happened.

He'll think everything is ok again. I'll know that it isn't. He'll think that I'm ok or I'd say something. I'll be carrying a huge weight in my chest knowing that I won't say anything again.

Thanks to those who have replied. I don't feel quite so alone. I'm on the sofa now and I've just put The Omen on so I'm going to watch that until I fall asleep.

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EmeraldRoulette · 29/10/2026 00:37

Queenmax · 29/10/2026 00:06

I feel the same, minus a partner.

Similar here, but no partner and no family. Never quite sure what to make of these posts… they start off sounding like me and then it turns out they’ve got a partner and children… admittedly I didn’t want children.

peptobiz · 29/10/2026 00:45

EmeraldRoulette · 29/10/2026 00:37

Similar here, but no partner and no family. Never quite sure what to make of these posts… they start off sounding like me and then it turns out they’ve got a partner and children… admittedly I didn’t want children.

Edited

Yeah me too, I am always a bit baffled by it when it turns out that unlike me they have a kid and partner, but then I remember as far as a partner goes - sometimes being with someone who doesn’t really see you can feel very lonely.

More lonely than actually being alone or single.

OsfameronTanamoril · 29/10/2026 01:04

EmeraldRoulette · 29/10/2026 00:37

Similar here, but no partner and no family. Never quite sure what to make of these posts… they start off sounding like me and then it turns out they’ve got a partner and children… admittedly I didn’t want children.

Edited

It's not a competition?

peptobiz · 29/10/2026 01:10

OP some will downplay your partners response because the bar is so low for men, but I think it’s worth highlighting the fact he sounds useless.

A clumsy remark or just getting up to hug you would’ve been more acceptable than him just making tea and not commenting. Even a young child would’ve known to try and say something like “ but I care about you”.

Don’t believe he didn’t know what to say! This is a choice. He knows what he was doing, he was basically showing you that he isn’t here for deep emotional sharing. He is drawing boundaries. He isn’t a safe space.

You need to pay attention to that. Men like that are often terrible when you’re going through anything difficult like grief, illness, depression.

Has he ever supported you through anything difficult?

It's ok. I know now not to share my inner thoughts or to be vulnerable with him. I know he isn't/can't be/doesn't want to be that person for me.

It’s really not okay. I know you have kids but I assume you don’t have kids together - I wonder what’s the point of your relationship if you cannot be vulnerable with this man who is your life partner?

I’d sit down and talk to him about you feel and who you need him to be. And if he can’t be that maybe it’s time to reassess the relationship.

I know what you mean about people not caring if you’re around. I’ve been unwell the last year or so and I’ve been unable to be the one who texts first and I’ve realised some people will never contact me first! It’s been a year and some people haven’t noticed or cared that I’m not in contact and that I’m barely posting on social media. I am single,
no kids and live alone. Sometimes I get a bit morbid and wonder how long it would take for me to discovered if something happened?

It’s hard! I have my faith though which has been such a comfort to me along with a handful of people.

OneNewEagle · 29/10/2026 01:43

its not you OP. My life is very similar, I’m in my 50s now. I currently have no friends who contact me at all. I’m estranged from my family as well. So I just have my partner and adult DC. And neither of them currently want to speak to me about anything or show any support or care towards me.

I’m going through a really bad time due to all sorts.

I asked my partner for some emotional support a few days ago after telling him the day has been one of the saddest of my life (apart from losing family members obviously). I think if someone says that you pay attention but he showed no support no anything and no response.

no response btw is a response it means they cannot be arsed to even reply.

So because I made it quite clear I expect more he then lost his temper stormed out to wash up ( ie to avoid talking to me) and then gave me a big lecture about things he perceives as wrong with me.

i am feeling just as you are feeling.

whataeffingnightmare · 29/10/2026 06:47

I see you

I hear you

I can totally relate to everything you said

I’m sorry, I have no solutions… just empathy. I hope a new day brings you some peace

Autumnalhibernationisthedream · 29/10/2026 07:08

Unless I read it wrong someone said above it’s an epidemic and I think at the moment in life there are a lot more people who aren’t in contact with people than those who are.

I honestly believe people, due to the erosion of community, possibly because of social media and screens, have just fallen into day to day life- work then home or work and home, sleep, repeat. When I finally meet up with people which I don’t because of work kids and being exhausted inevitably someone will say I don’t really have anyone, and parents will say it at the school gates.

My siblings (very popular people) have said it. Everyone says oh we talk on WhatsApp groups from time to time but I’m always the one to initiate or we talk because something has happened. And I see it too, and I know there’s people I need to contact but there's nothing really except a few months later someone will say how’s everyone and we’ll have missed huge things in people’s life. You see it on here threads after threads of people saying start a hobby, you’ll find people, but I don’t know that it’s that easy

And not to put it as a man vs woman thing but I don’t know that men voice it/ feel it as we do. I would guess when you laid it out potentially you made it sound as you feel, that you found it-heartbreaking, and your partner had no idea or has no idea what to say/ maybe thought it was a bad moment for you that would pass. Contrary to mn I don’t think that makes him a bad person, I think it’s luck whether we can say the right thing at the right time and he may have failed the test but that doesn’t mean he can’t/ won’t be there for you again or that he has no empathy.

letsgoanonforthis · 29/10/2026 07:24

I hear you OP and sometimes feel the same way, if I never contacted any of my 'friends' ever again would they notice or get in touch.

It's not an experiment I'm going to engage with.

But it is effort and sometimes I just let the effort slide for a bit as I can't be bothered if they're not bothered.

I'm a bit like your DH in the lacking response department. I'm not a naturally cold person but if I was having an otherwise pleasant evening and then he emotionally dumped on me I'd probably just want to slope off. I'm not saying for a second that was what you did to your DH, but maybe that's how he received it?

Facecream24 · 29/10/2026 07:27

I could have written your post other than the bit about the partner. E.g I had a friend of 10 years, always me initiating but I let it slide as I liked her. My last invite to her, ignored for days, and when she eventually replied it was with a meme from facebook which basically apologised for not responding as she had been busy. No actually reply to my invite. So I never replied as frankly that really showed me how little she cared especially when she seems to have no problem with time to make arrangements to travel the world with other people. And surprise no surprise not heard from her since.

after that one, I’ve started looking into the practices of Buddhism, making peace with myself and it’s really helping. The lack of contact from others bothers me less and I feel secure in who I am and what I’m doing.

I look around and I see some people are obviously just made for friendships, it is natural, they obviously contact each other lots but I think for some of us it just doesn’t work out that way and that’s no fault of ours necessarily but if it upsets you that’s the bit you can work on. For me I find every friend upsets me some way in the end anyway.

orangegato · 29/10/2026 07:47

Hey OP, are you me?! Which region are you in as I’d go for a coffee/wine/rant.

I second the idea of clubs or sports, but haven’t found the balls to progress that myself.