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My partner says I'm affecting my daughter's ability to be independent

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SteadyFoot · Yesterday 21:31

I have an 11-year-old daughter from a previous relationship. I have a 10-month-old son with my partner. Today, my partner said that I'm affecting my daughter's ability to be independent because she and I were holding hands whilst out on a walk...

We're on a family trip to York, the city was busy and my daughter reached out for my hand and so we held hands and walked through the city whilst I pushed our young son in his pram.

I'd say she reached out for my hand for affection and safety, she's always been an affectionate person and to me this is absolutely normal behaviour. I was loving every moment, being there for both my children, keeping them safe as is my job as a responsible and loving parent.

Considering their age and the situation we were in, I can't see where my partner is coming from at all. It was hurtful to hear them say this as I'd like to think that if our own son were to reach out for their hand at 11-years-old then they'd accept their hand rather than dismiss it, as a lesson to gain dependence.

What are people's thoughts on this?

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curious79 · Today 06:08

My daughter is 17 and on a recent city trip was holding my hand. She regularly does. I walked her to school through to 12 yrs old and always held her hand. My DH holds his DD’s hand (she’s 19). None of it is weird or impacting of their independence. They feel safe and loved - if anything that helps them be independent

SteadyFoot · Today 06:36

Thank you, everyone that's replied to me, I feel reassured in my thoughts.

I'll try my best to reply to everyone's comments in this one reply as I never expected such a strong reaction to this in such a short amount of time.

My daughter is independent in a lot of things, she'll cook breakfasts, lunch, puddings and is starting to intrigue herself with dinner meals, she make us hot drinks as her treat to us. She'll opt to make her own lunch for school, and she'll do it well. She'll separate her clothing for washing. She's trusted by both of us to look after our son say if we needed to go something around the house. She completes her homework without prompting from anyone. She takes pride in her appearance and will often be the first awake in the house, doing her favourite hairstyles; something she's become known for at school and will often be the hairstylist at school within the groups of friends she's in. She's always had a glowing school report and is described as a model student. In public, she'll hold the door open for strangers as we enter a building, and even say her own order when out for a meal. She's recently gained 'control' of her own Vinted account, as a way of me teaching her the value of money, commerce and the importance of saving. This isn't an exhaustive list.

My daughter does put on a baby voice every now and again, but that's children just being children and I point it out telling her she won't get her own way just because of a voice change; I want her to be capable, and not need to seek assistance under the guise of being inferior to anyone. I remind her to tidy her bed from time to time but again that's just children.

So, with all this, as you could imagine, I'm stumped as to what independence she's lacking for her age and what I'm supposedly doing to impede it.

My partner has made other retorts and it seems to stem from the time I spend with my daughter and the affection we share. My partner recently made the comment "The problem is I got with you when you have a child already", this was because they're finding it difficult that I need to co-parent and she doesn't like that she requires communication between me and my ex-partner. My daughter's toothbrush isn't allowed near to my son's as she has a habit of coughing but theirs and mine can be next to his even in illness. My daughter was left out of the first family holiday (all four of us) abroad because my partner wanted it to just be me, them and our son so kept on throwing obstacles to make sure she couldn't attend; this is something they've since apologised for. My partner got angry with me because I didn't tell them that my ex-partner would also be at the parents evening; they told me that they only ever had one parent go to these sorts of things with them as a child. Again, this list isn't exhaustive.

And, strangely, even though this comment has come about yesterday, my partner decided to take away my daughter's choice to make her own lunches. I did think this was out of affection but now the water seems so unclear. The two things don't sing from the same hymn sheet. I feel constantly watched and ready to be called out for the next thing that they don't agree with in my relationships with the children.

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Lastqueenofscotland2 · Today 06:46

Based on your update about the toothbrushes and making lunches I’d be giving your partner an ultimatum. You cannot let them treat your daughter like this

summitfever · Today 06:47

Op is your partner a woman? Not that it really matters but it’s important you stand in that kids corner as she is in effect already being bullied by this person. The toothbrush thing is subtly divisive, the holiday thing is actually evil. This will damage every relationship in the house if you don’t put a stop to it now and it will damage your daughter possibly irreparably. My ex did this to my kids, turned out he’s a massive narcissist and it’s classic scapegoat child vs golden child behavior.

you may have invited the devil in op, nip this in the bud pronto

IGJ10 · Today 06:48

Your partner does not like your daughter or the relationship you have with her. Your daughter sounds wonderful and I’m sad and annoyed your partner has been allowed to take away her independence by not letting her make her own lunches. Both my parents frequently came to parents evening. Your poor daughter, to be excluded from a family holiday at a young age is poor behaviour from both of you if I’m honest. It also sounds like you are treading on eggshells. Are you scared of them? This is not loving behaviour, it is mean, jealous and controlling. Please look out for your wonderful girl and hold her hand any time you want. Fwiw I’m 43 and I still hold my mums hand sometimes if we go for a walk together.

tara66 · Today 06:48

Being jealous of a child is so unattractive.

missionaccomplished · Today 06:50

CatVester · Yesterday 21:43

My daughter is 20 and she still occasionally holds my hand or links arms with me because we love each other. She is fully independent and at university most of the time. I don't think an 11 year old holding their mum's hand is cause for any concern at all!

Same!

MozzieFreeZone · Today 06:51

Your daughter is being bullied by your partner. How much will you tolerate from her?

Soontobe60 · Today 06:52

Holding hands - not a problem. Holding your hand whilst you’re pushing a pram - a bit odd. Why couldn’t DD or DP push the pram?

Soontobe60 · Today 06:59

What’s the set up here? Does your DD spend time at her DFs house? It sounds like your DP is female - does she have any children of her own? She comes across as controlling, but it’s not all on her. For example, the holiday issue. If you wanted your DD to go with you, you should have insisted - it’s all of us or no holiday. Is she the birth mother of your DS? If not, it could be that your DP is jealous of the relationship you have with both your DC.

SteadyFoot · Today 07:04

IGJ10 · Today 06:48

Your partner does not like your daughter or the relationship you have with her. Your daughter sounds wonderful and I’m sad and annoyed your partner has been allowed to take away her independence by not letting her make her own lunches. Both my parents frequently came to parents evening. Your poor daughter, to be excluded from a family holiday at a young age is poor behaviour from both of you if I’m honest. It also sounds like you are treading on eggshells. Are you scared of them? This is not loving behaviour, it is mean, jealous and controlling. Please look out for your wonderful girl and hold her hand any time you want. Fwiw I’m 43 and I still hold my mums hand sometimes if we go for a walk together.

Thank you for replying.

Unfortunately I missed out on my son's first holiday abroad. I stayed home, it wasn't right to leave someone out.

I'm not scared of them, I'm having to constantly tell them/defend my position when they don't agree with the way I parent. This post was for reassurance because it's got the point where I'm questioning if I'm coming from an unjust place.

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NorwegianForest · Today 07:04

The comment about it being a problem that you already had a child when you got together with your partner is awful and very revealing. They see your child as a problem OP. Think how that feels from your DD's perspective Sad

TheBlueKoala · Today 07:06

@SteadyFoot Your update is heartbreaking. He sees your little girl as a menace to your relationship and he's seething of jealousy. Yabvu for having let him decide that your daughter couldn't come with you on holidays. I wonder if some of the disgust (toothbrush) stems from the fact that she's proof of you having had a relationship with a man prior to himself. Tbh I wouldn't trust him around your dd because he seems to be very mean spirited.

I would give an ultimatum: he goes to therapy to figure out how to deal with his resentment towards your daughter and you having had a prior life before him or he can leave. Your daughter needs to come first at all times. She will internalise his image of her being disgusting (toothbrush) and it will be detrimental to her selfesteem.

Pearlstillsinging · Today 07:06

You need to put a stop to partner's unpleasant behaviour towards DD immediately. The holiday thing is appalling and should have been a red flag at the time. Partner sounds jealous, controlling and spiteful.

SteadyFoot · Today 07:12

Soontobe60 · Today 06:59

What’s the set up here? Does your DD spend time at her DFs house? It sounds like your DP is female - does she have any children of her own? She comes across as controlling, but it’s not all on her. For example, the holiday issue. If you wanted your DD to go with you, you should have insisted - it’s all of us or no holiday. Is she the birth mother of your DS? If not, it could be that your DP is jealous of the relationship you have with both your DC.

Thank you for replying.

My daughter spends one week with me, and returns the following week. Custody is equal.

My partner doesn't have their own children and our son is the only real parental experience for them, there's no other young children in the family that they've had to take care of. They pull experience from the way they were parented.

I did exactly that with the holiday, I should edit my comment. Ultimately the last obstacle was that they booked accommodation that was too small for all of us. I never attended, it was unfair for my daughter.

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SteadyFoot · Today 07:14

Soontobe60 · Today 06:52

Holding hands - not a problem. Holding your hand whilst you’re pushing a pram - a bit odd. Why couldn’t DD or DP push the pram?

I guess that's a question for my daughter. Why did my daughter want to hold my hand whilst I was pushing a pram. I guess, she just wanted to.

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Loungingbutnotforlong · Today 07:15

Urgh. I’m sorry OP, but he doesn’t like that you have another child. This is very dangerous for your daughter. The emotional harm alone is awful.
the fact that you felt the need to list out all the ways your 10 year old is independent is worrying. This has nothing to do with your child independence- I think you know that.
Im late 40s, sometimes I visit my mum and hold her hand. I can assure you, I’m ‘independent’

HelloCheekyCat · Today 07:26

Your partner is trying to edge out your DD now that you have DS together, your DD will notice and imagine how that would make her feel.
It's such a common theme in the step parents/blended families threads on here

Imaginingdragonsagain · Today 07:30

Your partner doesn’t like that you had another child first, and is trying to push them out of their family unit- them, you and their baby. Don’t let that happen.

summitfever · Today 07:35

Op you’ve not addressed the fact that your daughter is being bullied, are you in denial or deflecting this point? I fear you’re brushing over it and turning a blind eye, this needs to be dealt with head on or it will escalate

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Today 07:38

Your daughter is being bullied in her own home. What are you going to do about it?

Blushingm · Today 07:40

If it’s busy I hold by daughters hand - she’s 20, but she’s petite and I don’t like crowds.

If I go out with my dad say to a London gig and the tube is busy I hold his arm so we don’t get separated. I’m 48 and he’s 72

I don’t think what you did was particularly abnormal at all

SteadyFoot · Today 07:43

summitfever · Today 07:35

Op you’ve not addressed the fact that your daughter is being bullied, are you in denial or deflecting this point? I fear you’re brushing over it and turning a blind eye, this needs to be dealt with head on or it will escalate

I can see it, I call it out and now I'm asking for reassurance from other parents/people concerning the situation.

Explicitly saying "my daughter is being bullied" on a forum doesn't change how I feel.

For this post, I've tried to explain the situation as unbias as possible so that the responses I received are as real as possible. I'm asking for everyone else's thoughts.

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Devonshiregal · Today 07:44

Firstly, the only person allowed to be jealous is your daughter of your new family. Unless you are being annoying with your ex in which case your partners jealously should be towards them nog the kid.

Secondly, the fact you allowed her to be left out of your family holiday is the absolute indicator you need to break up with this partner.

thirdly, why are you gender neutralising this partner? You said they were a she in one post. If they are a woman and gave birth to the child then do you think they have ppd? The toothbrush thing is either extreme annxiety or abuse or both. Are you female or male? If you are a man holding your daughters hand some people are really horrible about dads and daughters and act like the man is dishustong for even looking at his kid after the age of 8-which says more about them than the dad. If you’re a woman, you may have the jealousy of her thinking you want to go back to you ex as he is male. If your new partner is male he’s abusive even if he also has anxiety.

lastly, sounds like you raised an amazing girl so don’t fuck it up now for this person.

ps the way they say “the problem I’ve got with you” is a very common way abusers speak. This person is always going to find some way to have a problem with you.

LIZS · Today 07:45

You have a child under 1 and already missed a family holiday because he insisted your dd could not come? How did you allow that to happen. He will make you choose one or other and blame you for your decision. How long have you been together? Sounds like he views dd as an inconvenience.