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Would you continue dating a man who has a child he doesn't see?

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VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 01:18

I’ve recently started seeing a man in his late 20s and there’s something he told me that’s left me feeling quite conflicted. I’d really appreciate some opinions.

Sorry, this is going to be a long one, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible so people have the full picture.

We both live in the US, although he’s originally from the UK. We’ve only been on one date so far, but it went really well. He’s a little shy, but lovely to talk to, has a good job and seems to have his life together. We have loads in common, similar interests and values, and seem to want the same things in life. I genuinely haven’t met someone I’ve clicked with like this in a while.

However, during our date he told me he has a son back in the UK who he hasn’t seen for six years.

Obviously that caught me off guard, so I asked him about it.

He explained that when his son was conceived, he was in a really bad place. He was severely addicted to alcohol, drinking almost every day and regularly blacking out. His mental health wasn’t good either, and he wasn’t remotely ready to become a dad.

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t particularly healthy. Apparently she’d often spoken about wanting a baby, including saying she wanted one so she’d never be alone, and had told him she didn’t think she could get pregnant.

He said looking back at that time is difficult, especially because he was drunk so much of the time. But he didn’t accuse her of trapping him or anything like that.

One thing I did respect was that he said he doesn’t believe in speaking badly about someone he once loved, even if things ended badly. He acknowledged that he’d made plenty of mistakes himself.

Anyway, they separated, she eventually got into another relationship and told him she didn’t want their son knowing who his biological father was.

He never went through the courts to try to establish contact, which is probably the part I’m struggling with most.

His explanation was that he was in a terrible place mentally at the time and was frightened of making an already complicated situation worse. He later moved abroad to start a new life, and between getting sober, rebuilding his life and establishing himself in another country, the years went by.

He also worries that suddenly reappearing in his son’s life after so long could potentially cause more harm than good, especially if his mother is against it.

However, he told me he’s been thinking about his son a lot recently and is looking into speaking to a solicitor to understand his options and whether trying to establish contact would be in his son’s best interests.

He does pay child maintenance.

He also told me he writes birthday and Christmas cards and letters to his son, even though he can’t currently give them to him. He keeps them in case his son ever wants to know him in the future.

He also puts money aside in a separate savings account for him.

When he was talking about his son, he became noticeably quieter and seemed genuinely upset about the situation. I didn’t get the impression he was proud of how things had turned out.

He’s now been sober for five years, has a good career and seems to have completely turned his life around.

We also spoke about what we want from life. He said he’d love to get married and have a family one day, but wouldn’t rush into having children. He’d only want to do that in a stable, loving relationship where both people were completely ready and genuinely wanted it.

He made it clear that he doesn’t see his son as a mistake. He just wishes the circumstances had been different and that he’d been in a better place when he became a father.

So this is where I’m torn.

On one hand, I really like him. He seems kind, thoughtful and genuinely lovely to be around. We have so much in common, and I admire the fact that he was upfront about something that obviously doesn’t paint him in the best light.

On the other hand, he has a son he hasn’t seen for six years, and I can’t pretend that doesn’t bother me.

I know people can change, especially after overcoming something as serious as addiction, but I also wonder what this might mean if we eventually got married and had children ourselves.

Would you be willing to look at the person he’s become, or would the lack of contact with his son be too much of a red flag?

Would you continue getting to know him?

I’d really appreciate some honest opinions.

OP posts:
SDRock · 10/10/2026 15:19

I am going to go against most of the other posts here but maybe give him a chance and get to know him better and then see whst you think.
I think if he had an addiction/behaviour issues etc and was not a positive influence in the child's life maybe not being in it was actually best for the child. If the mother didn't want him in the childs life then I am guessing he wasn't suitable to be in it at that time.
However, if he has turned his life around then maybe he could try again and contact the childs mother and see if he can make amends and begin to build a relationship.

Justonemorething82 · 10/10/2026 15:33

GreengrocersApostrophe · 10/10/2026 09:00

Has your dad never heard of family court, of applying for contact with his original child? Of course he has.

He's just as shit as all the rest who duck out on their responsibility to their own flesh and blood.

That’s a very simplistic assessment of what was a complex situation. It was 50 years ago and he couldn’t suddenly magic up the thousands required to take it to court. Different circumstances require nuanced understanding.

Yes there are feckless fathers, as I’m sure the rest of the replies will have shown (had I read it). I was simply sharing my experience, which is what the OP asked for.

BeeHive909 · 10/10/2026 16:23

Peachghost · 10/10/2026 14:33

How naive are you. He says he pays for his kids, doesnt make it true. Or that he's doing it through choice. Or that he's not hiding money. Or that money makes up for being an absent dad.

It sounds like she used him to get pregnant because thats how the man wants the OP to see it. Him being the poor innocent victim. If he didn't want to be a dad he should have been using condoms.

Not naive at all I just know that some stories are actually genuine and that not every man /dad is evil. You don’t know the full story either and you automatically assume the bad.

BeeHive909 · 10/10/2026 16:24

SDRock · 10/10/2026 15:19

I am going to go against most of the other posts here but maybe give him a chance and get to know him better and then see whst you think.
I think if he had an addiction/behaviour issues etc and was not a positive influence in the child's life maybe not being in it was actually best for the child. If the mother didn't want him in the childs life then I am guessing he wasn't suitable to be in it at that time.
However, if he has turned his life around then maybe he could try again and contact the childs mother and see if he can make amends and begin to build a relationship.

Exactly, some people are so quick to judge others and dismiss them and blame them. He’s turned his life around and deserves a chance.

AmnesiacDream · 10/10/2026 16:48

Assuming he's a reliable narrator about the whole thing, staying in touch would be unlikely to have been in his son's best interests. An alcoholic father who was black out drunk a lot would have been unreliable and a safety concern. The boy and his mum have moved on to another situation and may well be better off without him making things messy. A court case for access would have distressed everyone.

I would, though, now he's sober, expect him to be keeping tabs on his son's situation, incase his ex's relationship deteriorates or his son otherwise needs someone to step in.

You've only had one date. I think it's reasonable to keep going if you otherwise like him. I would come back to it if you end up getting serious.

The alcoholism would be more of a deal breaker for me, tbh.

AlonsoMosley · 10/10/2026 16:57

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 02:38

I would hope it means actually getting in contact with a family law advisor and start things off if he’s really genuinely interested like he said.

I think it means that he is thinking about thinking about it...

AlonsoMosley · 10/10/2026 17:02

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 02:53

Yeh thats true, and I do agree he could have taken steps sooner. I suppose what I’m trying to work out is whether someone should be judged entirely on what they haven’t done in the past, or whether the changes they’ve made and what they do going forward should count as well.

He has had six years though!

By moving across an ocean he has guaranteed that he cannot have a relationship with his son.

He appears to take accountability, but if you focus on his (lack) of action rather than his nice words?

Actions tell you what people are. Words often tell you who they would like to be. In most people, the actions and words meet - there or thereabouts.

With this chap? Not so much.

SquirrelMadness · 10/10/2026 17:13

BeeHive909 · 10/10/2026 16:24

Exactly, some people are so quick to judge others and dismiss them and blame them. He’s turned his life around and deserves a chance.

You can choose not to date someone without blaming them or judging them. You can decide 'not for me' at any point, for any reason.

A lot of us are urging the OP to run because we have been in a very similar position ourselves (a man with a slightly fishy sob story, pouring his heartfelt sorrow out on date number one), and if we could go back and shout at ourselves "don't do this, please don't do this!", believe me we would.

I'm not single now, but if I was I wouldn't be dating someone with this kind of back story. I wouldn't be judging him either, it would be 'this isn't going to work out but good luck to you'.

As I've said previously on this thread, a big tragic sob story on date number one, inferred criticism of his ex and facts that don't fully add up (he's desperate to contact his son one day but also decided to move thousands of miles away?) are massive red flags. And you ignore red flags at your peril. We always think we'll be able to spot lies or danger and walk away. But it's really not that easy. I think a lot of people are just hoping OP doesn't end up in a difficult situation.

speakball · 10/10/2026 17:21

I think people are allowed to make mistakes.

what!?! i’ve just spent the last 55 years being perfect for nothing?

joking aside this is a thought ending cliche. for starters the ‘allowed’ bit is silly. would people stop making mistakes if someone told them they weren’t allowed to? where do you draw the line?

cloudtreecarpet · 10/10/2026 17:21

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 02:53

Yeh thats true, and I do agree he could have taken steps sooner. I suppose what I’m trying to work out is whether someone should be judged entirely on what they haven’t done in the past, or whether the changes they’ve made and what they do going forward should count as well.

You aren't so much trying to work that out as wanting people here to tell you that's the case.
But the majority aren't which must be food for thought.

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 17:22

Skyflier · 10/10/2026 11:49

I think people are allowed to make mistakes. Yes not seeing his son is bad but it sounds like he has turned his life around now and has at least admitted what he did and didn’t try to excuse it. He could have totally messed his son up if he had been around him drunk with severe mental health issues.
You have only had one date. I would be cautious but if you like him take it slowly and see how it goes.
it takes a lot to quit drinking, move to a new country and get your life back on track. He sounds remorseful that he wasn’t there for his child.

Exactly! I mean for all i know is its one big lie, but if it’s not and it’s true the fact he went from rock bottom to building a life like this clearly shows people can change and that he has ambitions.

I think what i worry about most is the fact it’s took so long to make a decision about his son. If we go on further dates and he can show he has spoke to a solicitor and all the cards, maintenance and seperate savings is true then to me thats massive green flags and clearly shows he’s not a complete deadbeat.

OP posts:
Sussexserpents · 10/10/2026 17:32

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 17:22

Exactly! I mean for all i know is its one big lie, but if it’s not and it’s true the fact he went from rock bottom to building a life like this clearly shows people can change and that he has ambitions.

I think what i worry about most is the fact it’s took so long to make a decision about his son. If we go on further dates and he can show he has spoke to a solicitor and all the cards, maintenance and seperate savings is true then to me thats massive green flags and clearly shows he’s not a complete deadbeat.

Writing some cards is a green flag?? I’m sorry but writing some cards but not changing one fucking nappy. Not being around for the first day of school. Wtf? Your delusion is wild. He’s going to be one confused little boy - but it’s ok, he wrote some cards!

Bellyblueboy · 10/10/2026 17:34

The most obvious thing he has done which suggests he doesn’t want a relationship with his child is move thousands of miles away from that child. What does a relationship with his son look like if he lives in America?

if he genuinely wants to be a dad and is seeking legal advice, he can’t do that from America. It just doesn’t ring true.

Uo to you if this is the type of man you want, and if you want to start a relationship looking for documented proof to quell your worries that he is a deadbeat.

tread carefully.

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 17:36

BeeHive909 · 10/10/2026 16:23

Not naive at all I just know that some stories are actually genuine and that not every man /dad is evil. You don’t know the full story either and you automatically assume the bad.

I try not to be naive, But some people are genuinely genuine. I appreciate all the responses ive got on this thread, at the same time some make me feel a bit sick. As if they were implying that even tho he’s made mistakes but has somewhat turned his life around, that he doesn’t deserve love or a stable relationship.

If everything turns out to be true, i wonder what peoples opinions would be then. I’m not trying to defend the man or get defensive we’ve only been on one date but it’s like everyone already knows him 100%.

Either way its definitely a proceed with caution situation, and find out if these are all thruths without getting too attached.

OP posts:
VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 10/10/2026 17:37

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 17:22

Exactly! I mean for all i know is its one big lie, but if it’s not and it’s true the fact he went from rock bottom to building a life like this clearly shows people can change and that he has ambitions.

I think what i worry about most is the fact it’s took so long to make a decision about his son. If we go on further dates and he can show he has spoke to a solicitor and all the cards, maintenance and seperate savings is true then to me thats massive green flags and clearly shows he’s not a complete deadbeat.

Even if it's true, I wouldn't be going near him.

Dating is an audition. You're weeding out people who are a risk to your future happiness.

The alcoholism is a risk.
The cutting and running when things get difficult is a risk.
The fact that he spent years feeling no responsibility for his own child is a risk.

Yes, he may have his shit together now. But his history suggests a high likelihood of not having his shit together in the future.

He may be a good bloke, he may deserve a relationship and happiness etc. But that's not your responsibility. Your responsibility is to ensure your own future happiness. The best way to ensure that is not to pick a bloke with a whole parade of red flags attached to him.

ClaudeHopper · 10/10/2026 17:41

Paying child maintenance does not a father make.

I would run a mile.

Bellyblueboy · 10/10/2026 17:43

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 17:36

I try not to be naive, But some people are genuinely genuine. I appreciate all the responses ive got on this thread, at the same time some make me feel a bit sick. As if they were implying that even tho he’s made mistakes but has somewhat turned his life around, that he doesn’t deserve love or a stable relationship.

If everything turns out to be true, i wonder what peoples opinions would be then. I’m not trying to defend the man or get defensive we’ve only been on one date but it’s like everyone already knows him 100%.

Either way its definitely a proceed with caution situation, and find out if these are all thruths without getting too attached.

But the full truth that you know now still involves him moving thousands of miles away from his child and having no contact in his many years of sobriety. Even if everything he says is true is this the character of a person you want?

It may well be, we all have different standards and morals

and it is okay for people to say no thank you to a relationship with this type of man - they aren’t judging him for a job, they are judging him as a life partner.

imagine if a woman had done this - left her child and made no attempt to check in or have a relationship five years after getting sober. The opinions would be very different.

speakball · 10/10/2026 17:44

think what i worry about most is the fact it’s took so long to make a decision about his son. If we go on further dates and he can show he has spoke to a solicitor and all the cards, maintenan

yeah not my idea of a fun date. so now dates aren’t about laughing and finding out about eachother they’re now progress reports on him being an adult. he’s probably already thought about how he can make it look like he cares with no effort. or he might already realise you’re not as daft as a lot of other women and give you some flannel about how he is now not interested in dating as he is going to be too busy being super dad. which will be a pile of festering bollox.

APlagueOnBothYourHouses · 10/10/2026 17:45

Everyone makes mistakes. How is it a mistake that he doesn’t see his own child? That’s not an error, it’s something he’s decided not to prioritise. Good job the child’s mother also didn’t make some mistakes or his son would be fucked.

speakball · 10/10/2026 17:46

imagine if a woman had done this - left her child and made no attempt to check in or have a relationship five years after getting sober. The opinions would be very different.

this! the double standard is WILD. it’s like men are allowed to be TERRIBLE in every way.

MightyGoldBear · 10/10/2026 17:50

As a parent. I wouldn't of moved countries for any job. I wouldn't be thinking about legal help I'd be doing it. I'd live close to my child and dating would be the furthest thing from my mind.

I think the bigger question is why don't you think you deserve a straight forward no "baggage" man? This should be the easiest no thanks but after one date you're trying to shine all the best light and benefit of the doubt on this man.
This can make you very vunerable op. Take care

speakball · 10/10/2026 17:53

that he doesn’t deserve love or a stable relationship.

a man who does this can’t offer any life partner a loving or stable relationship. how can he? how can he go to bed every single night for more than 2000 nights and still not have thought ‘wtf am i playing at’. you know we only ‘get’ the relationships we can ‘do’.

EverybodyLTB · 10/10/2026 17:56

lol OP “what if it’s true” he’s already admitted to terrible things that we are taking to be true, run! Ditching your kid and ‘making an effort’ six years down the line, is not good. How else can this be read? He’ll be good to you now? A person who hasn’t seen or spoken to their child in six years is fundamentally broken, I’m sorry. People can redeem themselves, people can fix up and change, but let the people who feel the benefit of that be the people in his life like his child and his parents who’s relationship to him is inherent. Why on earth would you actively choose this mess? Who the fuck creates a dating profile before they fill out a basic family court form?

Even if, let’s just say he’s seeing a solicitor and done the cards etc, so fucking what. That child deserved his love and care for six years. Yes, I think he should suffer for his actions as of now, by being rejected from the dating pool UNTIL he’s actually turned his life around. Getting a good job and writing unsent cards does not equal success, when you’ve got a child out in the world you do not see. All this thing about seeing a solicitor - I told you upthread a C100 is £270 he could have googled that for nothing, especially as he’s such a tech whizz.

SquirrelMadness · 10/10/2026 17:57

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 17:36

I try not to be naive, But some people are genuinely genuine. I appreciate all the responses ive got on this thread, at the same time some make me feel a bit sick. As if they were implying that even tho he’s made mistakes but has somewhat turned his life around, that he doesn’t deserve love or a stable relationship.

If everything turns out to be true, i wonder what peoples opinions would be then. I’m not trying to defend the man or get defensive we’ve only been on one date but it’s like everyone already knows him 100%.

Either way its definitely a proceed with caution situation, and find out if these are all thruths without getting too attached.

I don't think people have been saying he doesn't they know him 100% or that he doesn't deserve love or a relationship. Most people responding to this thread are thinking about you, not about him. But if I was advising him I'd probably say sort you're own life out before dating, because maybe he'll want to move back to the UK if it goes well with his son? And it sounds like he has a lot of emotional distractions right now, which is going to limit what he can give in a relationship.

Yes some people are genuine. But if you are keen to support your child after overcoming addiction, moving thousands of miles away seems an odd choice to make. So already there's something that doesn't ring true. And if there's already something doesn't ring true on date one, that's a red flag. The longer you stick around to investigate, the more invested you get, the harder it is to walk away.

It sounds like you're planning to continue to date him though, so good luck. I would suggest you keep asking yourself what's in it for you, as all this investigating and following up on solicitors and supporting him through all the heart ache doesn't sound especially fun. Are you looking for someone to rescue? And if so maybe a dog or a cat would be less risky?

cloudtreecarpet · 10/10/2026 18:00

VelvetPetals11 · 10/10/2026 17:36

I try not to be naive, But some people are genuinely genuine. I appreciate all the responses ive got on this thread, at the same time some make me feel a bit sick. As if they were implying that even tho he’s made mistakes but has somewhat turned his life around, that he doesn’t deserve love or a stable relationship.

If everything turns out to be true, i wonder what peoples opinions would be then. I’m not trying to defend the man or get defensive we’ve only been on one date but it’s like everyone already knows him 100%.

Either way its definitely a proceed with caution situation, and find out if these are all thruths without getting too attached.

No one is saying he doesn't deserve love but you came here to ask people's opinions and the general view is that he sounds complicated and a risk to get involved with.

Like others, I would question his move to the US, leaving a son behind. That's a pretty major thing to do and presumably he wasn't too much of a mess at that point if a company were prepared to sponsor his visa & let him work for them...

I don't mean to be rude to you, but you very much sound like you have a romantic view of "saving" this "poor, misunderstood ex-alcoholic".
He probably sees that in you which is why he has trotted out stories that tug your heart strings but also make it seem like he is making positive changes as a dad.

Is he planning to move back to the UK to co parent his son? Where would this leave your relationship if you carried it on?
It all sounds a bit heavy for a first date whatever the truth about his life.