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Wife avoids planned date nights at home and I feel rejected

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DEREKR · 23/06/2026 07:08

Hi Ladies

Im a 49 yr old male needing some female advice. Ive signed up to this because i really need a womens advice here becauze im.all put of ideas. Ive been with my wife now 20 years shes 45, married for 13, and have two beautiful children 10 and 13. Im.quite.succesfull, so fortunate to plan overseas holidays, nice restaurants often, as well as live in a good suburb with all the usual perks. My.wifes birthday I surprised her with yhe new land rover discovery ehich I thinkshe appreciates. . Every week I try.organise a date night for us, with us having no family here, its hard to organise baby sitters , and my 10 yr old gets scared if we do. Fortunately ive 2 bars in my house, 1 is being a wine bar. So 2 months ago I suggested a date night st home at the wine bar. I showered, got changed in what she tells.me thinks I look nice in, nice bottles of red wine. I asked my 13yr old son to make sure they would both go to bed early that night which he did. Eventually she came down. I must add this. In her ptjamas, hair tied back, zero make up on. No effort at all. During this date I had pre arranged for her engagement ring to be delivered which needed a new clasp. It was a 1 carrat vs1 diamond, but id ask them to make it yo a 1.2carrat as a surprise. Anyway, I gave this to her as a surprise. The date night went fairly ok, and was good to talk with no kids around. I said we need to do this once a week or once every 2 weeks to be realistic. As parents kids lives happen and hard to get that break. 2 weeks later I organise it again. Baring in mind inbetween we go to restaurants in the week. This is alone time. This time the same, wine var, wine, and the diomand they took out the ring id had made into a necklace which I gave her that nightz so the proposal diamond she would still gave. Great night again. Now, this is where I need advice. The next time , 2 weeks after Id arranged date night, I sat waiting downstairs and she hadnt come downstairs. I waited half an hour thinking maybe shes getting dressed (the 2nd date night was same again, wore clothes she wore all day), so thought maybe this time she was making the effort. Eventually I go upstairs to see where she is, and she was lying on my daughters bedz in her pyjamas on Facebook which shes addicted to, and just casually said to mw"urrgh im coming now". To which intold ger dont even bother. If it was such an effort to come down and be with me, rhen dont bother. I got stood up in my own home on a date with my wife. Now that was 8 weeks ago. I told her im dine making all the effort for this marriage and have alone time, ajd rhe next date night she is organising. Its been 2 months now and not one single thing has she organised so we can be alone. My son has even asked her why she hasnt arranged a date night. I eventually sat her down and asked why. Het reply was "because yiull expect me to be wearing a body stocking or lingerie. Why cant we just watch a movie together". Now no where have I ever said that to herz but as a women, why would that be the issue. Other women before my wife, wearing sexy lingetie is a turn on for both parties and why wouldn't she want to wear it. Again, not having ever even mentioned it but why would that be the issue. And before you say shes got a complex, shes lost 10kgs, trains with me at gym everyday, in peptides, I oay for her to have her hair done every month, best shes looked in years, but why use that as an excuse. Am I wrong in thinking maybe there's another man. My son and I call her homescreen bwvause whenever we walk passed herz shes staring at her homescreen (obviously turns it off). Maybe im.paranoid about that hut mostly I feel so rejected and hurt. I orovide an incredible life for us snd rhe family. Overseas trips, there at every sporting even of my kids, I help with lifting, im a very hands on father and make so much effort to be with my wife but she cant even turn up to a dare nighr, snd when she has, zero efforts been made by her. More of an effort for her. Surely shes want to be with her hsubamd and have time out from the kids. Yes its at home, but its a "datennight " in our wine bar, just catching uo gor a cple hrs and laughing anf not being parents for once. Just the 2 of us, yet she makes no effort, even though 8 weeks have passed and the kids have even asked why she wont organise a date night. Shes so anti. So now ive closed off from her. I refuse to organise one and waiting for her to, yet I kmow now it will never happen. Any tips and advice here would be so grateful bevause im feeling so rejected. If she loved me surely she'd want to make an effort and arrange a datennight herself and to make up for standing me up, but water.off a ducks back for her. Im seriously looking into divorce. Well its there now in my head, where it wasn't before. Any assistance /advice ladies id really appreciate

OP posts:
Sharingadrink · 23/06/2026 13:40

I have no idea what I missed. To me this reads like he is trying stuff and she doesnt seem intrested. That wld hurt it I was trying and my husband wouldnt even join me.

BelieveInCher · 23/06/2026 13:41

OMGDidYouSayThat · 23/06/2026 13:37

Yep, i guess you're right, spending over 50 years in relationships where i haven't once been unfaithful and where i live and breathe the people who are close to me in a completely selfless manner must make me 'one of those men' 👏

I certainly have no interest in schooling, how you decide to treat your man is up to you, makes no difference to me if you and him are happy or not.

Just, ew. You keep proving my point every time you post.

jaketeckel · 23/06/2026 13:42

Jog on

OMGDidYouSayThat · 23/06/2026 13:42

SadTimesInFife · 23/06/2026 13:38

@OMGDidYouSayThat go fuck yourself

😂someone's having a bad day

helderste · 23/06/2026 13:42

BelieveInCher · 23/06/2026 13:41

Just, ew. You keep proving my point every time you post.

Yes, absolutely.

BelieveInCher · 23/06/2026 13:44

wherearethesnacks · 23/06/2026 13:37

If my husband used the words 'date night' to me or, even worse, 'date night at home' I'd have the ick so bad I'd be in my pyjamas too.

Not to mention: ‘date night at home in sexy lingerie while the teenage children are upstairs and while I constantly tot up how much money I have and spend on you like some sort of crap Richard Gere’. A prince among men!

TeaCupTinsel · 23/06/2026 13:44

DEREKR · 23/06/2026 07:08

Hi Ladies

Im a 49 yr old male needing some female advice. Ive signed up to this because i really need a womens advice here becauze im.all put of ideas. Ive been with my wife now 20 years shes 45, married for 13, and have two beautiful children 10 and 13. Im.quite.succesfull, so fortunate to plan overseas holidays, nice restaurants often, as well as live in a good suburb with all the usual perks. My.wifes birthday I surprised her with yhe new land rover discovery ehich I thinkshe appreciates. . Every week I try.organise a date night for us, with us having no family here, its hard to organise baby sitters , and my 10 yr old gets scared if we do. Fortunately ive 2 bars in my house, 1 is being a wine bar. So 2 months ago I suggested a date night st home at the wine bar. I showered, got changed in what she tells.me thinks I look nice in, nice bottles of red wine. I asked my 13yr old son to make sure they would both go to bed early that night which he did. Eventually she came down. I must add this. In her ptjamas, hair tied back, zero make up on. No effort at all. During this date I had pre arranged for her engagement ring to be delivered which needed a new clasp. It was a 1 carrat vs1 diamond, but id ask them to make it yo a 1.2carrat as a surprise. Anyway, I gave this to her as a surprise. The date night went fairly ok, and was good to talk with no kids around. I said we need to do this once a week or once every 2 weeks to be realistic. As parents kids lives happen and hard to get that break. 2 weeks later I organise it again. Baring in mind inbetween we go to restaurants in the week. This is alone time. This time the same, wine var, wine, and the diomand they took out the ring id had made into a necklace which I gave her that nightz so the proposal diamond she would still gave. Great night again. Now, this is where I need advice. The next time , 2 weeks after Id arranged date night, I sat waiting downstairs and she hadnt come downstairs. I waited half an hour thinking maybe shes getting dressed (the 2nd date night was same again, wore clothes she wore all day), so thought maybe this time she was making the effort. Eventually I go upstairs to see where she is, and she was lying on my daughters bedz in her pyjamas on Facebook which shes addicted to, and just casually said to mw"urrgh im coming now". To which intold ger dont even bother. If it was such an effort to come down and be with me, rhen dont bother. I got stood up in my own home on a date with my wife. Now that was 8 weeks ago. I told her im dine making all the effort for this marriage and have alone time, ajd rhe next date night she is organising. Its been 2 months now and not one single thing has she organised so we can be alone. My son has even asked her why she hasnt arranged a date night. I eventually sat her down and asked why. Het reply was "because yiull expect me to be wearing a body stocking or lingerie. Why cant we just watch a movie together". Now no where have I ever said that to herz but as a women, why would that be the issue. Other women before my wife, wearing sexy lingetie is a turn on for both parties and why wouldn't she want to wear it. Again, not having ever even mentioned it but why would that be the issue. And before you say shes got a complex, shes lost 10kgs, trains with me at gym everyday, in peptides, I oay for her to have her hair done every month, best shes looked in years, but why use that as an excuse. Am I wrong in thinking maybe there's another man. My son and I call her homescreen bwvause whenever we walk passed herz shes staring at her homescreen (obviously turns it off). Maybe im.paranoid about that hut mostly I feel so rejected and hurt. I orovide an incredible life for us snd rhe family. Overseas trips, there at every sporting even of my kids, I help with lifting, im a very hands on father and make so much effort to be with my wife but she cant even turn up to a dare nighr, snd when she has, zero efforts been made by her. More of an effort for her. Surely shes want to be with her hsubamd and have time out from the kids. Yes its at home, but its a "datennight " in our wine bar, just catching uo gor a cple hrs and laughing anf not being parents for once. Just the 2 of us, yet she makes no effort, even though 8 weeks have passed and the kids have even asked why she wont organise a date night. Shes so anti. So now ive closed off from her. I refuse to organise one and waiting for her to, yet I kmow now it will never happen. Any tips and advice here would be so grateful bevause im feeling so rejected. If she loved me surely she'd want to make an effort and arrange a datennight herself and to make up for standing me up, but water.off a ducks back for her. Im seriously looking into divorce. Well its there now in my head, where it wasn't before. Any assistance /advice ladies id really appreciate

Could it be that she is potentially worried that by dressing up, you may want to instigate sex or assume it's on the table?

If your wife is busy all day, working, homemaking then also looking after the needs of children, perhaps she is exhausted and isn't feeling 'in the mood' so she is wary of giving you any signals like that?

After a long day, if I am shattered, I wouldn't want to dress up to stay indoors either. Not because I don't love my husband but because it's just another thing to do in a never ending day.

Perhaps her libido has lowered as she is in peri-menopause age and she isn't feeling herself.

Rather than putting all the pressure on one night, could you have a chat with her about what's going on? Potentially why those date nights didn't work and see how you go from there?

Perhaps book a day off work and go out together somewhere in the daytime so the pressure is off a little when the kids are at school?

Bigtrapeze · 23/06/2026 13:48

Goldengirl123 · 23/06/2026 11:52

She sounds very lucky to have you. So many women would appreciate this sort of relationship

Do women want this in 2026? I'm not sure they do. I know I don't. DH and I buy things from our joint funds. He doesn't 'pay' for me to have my hair done, we do.

OMGDidYouSayThat · 23/06/2026 13:54

Bigtrapeze · 23/06/2026 13:48

Do women want this in 2026? I'm not sure they do. I know I don't. DH and I buy things from our joint funds. He doesn't 'pay' for me to have my hair done, we do.

Nah, this thread can't be real, no one would say 'he's lucky to have you' having read that surely...

Bigtrapeze · 23/06/2026 13:57

OMGDidYouSayThat · 23/06/2026 13:54

Nah, this thread can't be real, no one would say 'he's lucky to have you' having read that surely...

Land Rover Discovery is a popular vehicle, I suppose. Would it be wrong to ask for a photo of the home wine bar? I can't help mentally comparing it with the other non wine bar at their home. Besides the point entirely, I appreciate, but compelling none the less.

OMGDidYouSayThat · 23/06/2026 13:59

Bigtrapeze · 23/06/2026 13:57

Land Rover Discovery is a popular vehicle, I suppose. Would it be wrong to ask for a photo of the home wine bar? I can't help mentally comparing it with the other non wine bar at their home. Besides the point entirely, I appreciate, but compelling none the less.

😂at last a bit of lightheartedness

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 23/06/2026 14:07

OMGDidYouSayThat · 23/06/2026 13:27

In my defence, if you read my comments on other posts you'll see that all of my activity is in the relationships category but not just on posts relating to sex, just being here should tell you that i value a woman's opinion, i would 100% agree with any woman that says 'most' men are in it for one thing and don't consider what their partners actually want. But i'm not one of those men, we do actually exist it's not a myth...my reason for being here is because i like to have the views of both men and women when it comes to relationships, it helps me learn and hopefully improve, it has actually opened my eyes at times and made me thing differently about relationships. Granted some of the opinions may be a bit 'ill conceived' but as long as someone isn't launching a personal attack on me their opinion is still valid.

Edited

"i'm not one of those men"

This is the very widely held delusion of men everywhere - that they're a Nice Guy. They mean well! They have been misunderstood! They love women! They are feminists! All the other guys are complete shit, but they themself, they're a Nice Guy.

Men are hugely defensive of their self-attributed Nice Guy status. Even incarcerated rapists - literally men who have been imprisoned because they raped a woman, ie commited a heinous life-destroying act of mental, emotional and physical violence on a woman - think they're Nice Guys. NONE of them call themselves rapists. Some might admit to "having raped", but it was always due to some external factor, nothing to do with them. They can't be rapists because they are Nice Guys. Good Blokes. Decent Chaps. Good Fellas.

The average man is no better. You yourself consider yourself to be a Nice Guy even though:

  • you just told a PP that she's a "manhater" simply because she disputed you
  • you called a woman who is clearly avoiding sex with an obnoxious transactional coercive sex pest a "very spoilt wife"
  • you told the sex pest OP that he should "make [his wife] pay her own way" as punishment for her not wanting to fuck the sex pest

You're not the judge of whether you are a Nice Guy to women, we women are. And the responses of women (and one man) on this forum are clear: you are not a Nice Guy.

I give you credit for trying to be open and measured but you need to listen more and say less.

helderste · 23/06/2026 14:22

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 23/06/2026 14:07

"i'm not one of those men"

This is the very widely held delusion of men everywhere - that they're a Nice Guy. They mean well! They have been misunderstood! They love women! They are feminists! All the other guys are complete shit, but they themself, they're a Nice Guy.

Men are hugely defensive of their self-attributed Nice Guy status. Even incarcerated rapists - literally men who have been imprisoned because they raped a woman, ie commited a heinous life-destroying act of mental, emotional and physical violence on a woman - think they're Nice Guys. NONE of them call themselves rapists. Some might admit to "having raped", but it was always due to some external factor, nothing to do with them. They can't be rapists because they are Nice Guys. Good Blokes. Decent Chaps. Good Fellas.

The average man is no better. You yourself consider yourself to be a Nice Guy even though:

  • you just told a PP that she's a "manhater" simply because she disputed you
  • you called a woman who is clearly avoiding sex with an obnoxious transactional coercive sex pest a "very spoilt wife"
  • you told the sex pest OP that he should "make [his wife] pay her own way" as punishment for her not wanting to fuck the sex pest

You're not the judge of whether you are a Nice Guy to women, we women are. And the responses of women (and one man) on this forum are clear: you are not a Nice Guy.

I give you credit for trying to be open and measured but you need to listen more and say less.

It’s as though those men don’t realise that women who have actual good men in their lives can spot the difference a mile off.

BelieveInCher · 23/06/2026 14:31

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 23/06/2026 14:07

"i'm not one of those men"

This is the very widely held delusion of men everywhere - that they're a Nice Guy. They mean well! They have been misunderstood! They love women! They are feminists! All the other guys are complete shit, but they themself, they're a Nice Guy.

Men are hugely defensive of their self-attributed Nice Guy status. Even incarcerated rapists - literally men who have been imprisoned because they raped a woman, ie commited a heinous life-destroying act of mental, emotional and physical violence on a woman - think they're Nice Guys. NONE of them call themselves rapists. Some might admit to "having raped", but it was always due to some external factor, nothing to do with them. They can't be rapists because they are Nice Guys. Good Blokes. Decent Chaps. Good Fellas.

The average man is no better. You yourself consider yourself to be a Nice Guy even though:

  • you just told a PP that she's a "manhater" simply because she disputed you
  • you called a woman who is clearly avoiding sex with an obnoxious transactional coercive sex pest a "very spoilt wife"
  • you told the sex pest OP that he should "make [his wife] pay her own way" as punishment for her not wanting to fuck the sex pest

You're not the judge of whether you are a Nice Guy to women, we women are. And the responses of women (and one man) on this forum are clear: you are not a Nice Guy.

I give you credit for trying to be open and measured but you need to listen more and say less.

But..but he hasn’t ever shagged about and been “completely selfless” in all his relationships for the last 50 years don’t you know? Form an orderly queue, ladies: Mr Nice Guy is in the room! Our White Knight has arrived!

P.S. don’t ever disagree with him or the name calling, disparaging and coercive behaviour will begin. But if you stay in line then he is really nice.

Roll up, roll up!

OMGDidYouSayThat · 23/06/2026 14:31

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 23/06/2026 14:07

"i'm not one of those men"

This is the very widely held delusion of men everywhere - that they're a Nice Guy. They mean well! They have been misunderstood! They love women! They are feminists! All the other guys are complete shit, but they themself, they're a Nice Guy.

Men are hugely defensive of their self-attributed Nice Guy status. Even incarcerated rapists - literally men who have been imprisoned because they raped a woman, ie commited a heinous life-destroying act of mental, emotional and physical violence on a woman - think they're Nice Guys. NONE of them call themselves rapists. Some might admit to "having raped", but it was always due to some external factor, nothing to do with them. They can't be rapists because they are Nice Guys. Good Blokes. Decent Chaps. Good Fellas.

The average man is no better. You yourself consider yourself to be a Nice Guy even though:

  • you just told a PP that she's a "manhater" simply because she disputed you
  • you called a woman who is clearly avoiding sex with an obnoxious transactional coercive sex pest a "very spoilt wife"
  • you told the sex pest OP that he should "make [his wife] pay her own way" as punishment for her not wanting to fuck the sex pest

You're not the judge of whether you are a Nice Guy to women, we women are. And the responses of women (and one man) on this forum are clear: you are not a Nice Guy.

I give you credit for trying to be open and measured but you need to listen more and say less.

Hmm, ok so you (as a woman) are the judge of whether i'm a nice guy, well according to most of the posts on here no men are nice guy's so i have no idea how that is ever going to work. We are all the same apparently.

You only picked out what you wanted to pick out as well, and you spun it into something it wasn't:

  • you just told a PP that she's a "manhater" simply because she disputed you. No i called her a manhater because that's exactly how she comes across
  • you called a woman who is clearly avoiding sex with an obnoxious transactional coercive sex pest a "very spoilt wife" No i suggested that maybe she's spoilt due to the fact that he seemed to think 'money could buy him love' and made excessive purchases.
  • you told the sex pest OP that he should "make [his wife] pay her own way" as punishment for her not wanting to fuck the sex pest. No again that's taken completely out of context, nowhere did i suggest that not spoiling her is a way for him to carry out his seedy plans. It was a suggestion so he could determine whether she loved him or his money.
OMGDidYouSayThat · 23/06/2026 14:36

BelieveInCher · 23/06/2026 14:31

But..but he hasn’t ever shagged about and been “completely selfless” in all his relationships for the last 50 years don’t you know? Form an orderly queue, ladies: Mr Nice Guy is in the room! Our White Knight has arrived!

P.S. don’t ever disagree with him or the name calling, disparaging and coercive behaviour will begin. But if you stay in line then he is really nice.

Roll up, roll up!

Brutal 😂

JillThePlantKiller · 23/06/2026 14:56

The dynamic with your son is really concerning. I think you need to step up as a husband and father here. Your son is far to young to should not be involved in your relationship as a couple - that’s a horrendous pressure on a young boy and damaging to both parent child relationships. Triangulation and parentification are profoundly damaging to children.

Of course children pick up on things, but when my dc attempt to side with one of us, we do a sort of course correction and defend the other spouse, or possibly pull them up on respect. I would never allow my child to name all their dad. I’d be beyond hurt if he did.

In situations of parental conflict, children often side with the parent they have an insecure connection with.

You’ve backed yourself into a silly corner with the date night thing. She doesn’t want a sex night, but now she’s left to organise it, why would she? Is there a chance you will rebuff her tit for tat? why would she humiliate herself like that?

Google marriage and relationship advice by the Gottmans - it’s really solid, research backed and practical.

Blades2 · 23/06/2026 17:51

Why is a kid asking her about date nights? This is just weird af all around.

tommyhoundmum · 23/06/2026 18:14

DEREKR · 23/06/2026 07:22

2nd person to mention spelling. Im very aware the spelling mistakes typed on my phone, and really didnt think its an issue spelling "because as becauze". Thats whats being picked up here, spelling mistakes. Maybe ive signed up to the wrong forum

Ignore the spelling comments. Some mumsnetters can't resist picking people up on them others are kinder and ignore them.

livelovelough24 · 23/06/2026 18:33

It seems that the OP has left the building. I guess he didn't like the responses he was getting.

I would say that everything that needed to be said had already been said. The only five cents I'd like to add is this: the first thing I did when I separated from my ex was throw away all the sexy lingerie I had in the house.

oliviaAustin · 23/06/2026 18:42

Sounds like your date night means sex night and she’s finding it pressurising and transactional.

HereWeGo1234 · 23/06/2026 18:42

You make it sound like you don’t understand why you are buying your wife lots of expensive stuff and you don’t understand why you are not getting enough sex in return. It doesn’t work like that!

Ask her what she would like to do, she might just like to go and sit on a park bench and have an ice cream with you or walk around the block.
And next time you type a long message, read it before you send it!

labubu1 · 23/06/2026 18:49

I can’t get beyond the fact you have a wine bar in your house? Whattt?!

Watch a film with her. Maybe she’s tired. Jesus, she’s not a prostitute.

WallaceinAnderland · 23/06/2026 18:52

All that money and no nanny/au pair, what a waste.

MMUmum · 23/06/2026 19:34

DEREKR · 23/06/2026 07:08

Hi Ladies

Im a 49 yr old male needing some female advice. Ive signed up to this because i really need a womens advice here becauze im.all put of ideas. Ive been with my wife now 20 years shes 45, married for 13, and have two beautiful children 10 and 13. Im.quite.succesfull, so fortunate to plan overseas holidays, nice restaurants often, as well as live in a good suburb with all the usual perks. My.wifes birthday I surprised her with yhe new land rover discovery ehich I thinkshe appreciates. . Every week I try.organise a date night for us, with us having no family here, its hard to organise baby sitters , and my 10 yr old gets scared if we do. Fortunately ive 2 bars in my house, 1 is being a wine bar. So 2 months ago I suggested a date night st home at the wine bar. I showered, got changed in what she tells.me thinks I look nice in, nice bottles of red wine. I asked my 13yr old son to make sure they would both go to bed early that night which he did. Eventually she came down. I must add this. In her ptjamas, hair tied back, zero make up on. No effort at all. During this date I had pre arranged for her engagement ring to be delivered which needed a new clasp. It was a 1 carrat vs1 diamond, but id ask them to make it yo a 1.2carrat as a surprise. Anyway, I gave this to her as a surprise. The date night went fairly ok, and was good to talk with no kids around. I said we need to do this once a week or once every 2 weeks to be realistic. As parents kids lives happen and hard to get that break. 2 weeks later I organise it again. Baring in mind inbetween we go to restaurants in the week. This is alone time. This time the same, wine var, wine, and the diomand they took out the ring id had made into a necklace which I gave her that nightz so the proposal diamond she would still gave. Great night again. Now, this is where I need advice. The next time , 2 weeks after Id arranged date night, I sat waiting downstairs and she hadnt come downstairs. I waited half an hour thinking maybe shes getting dressed (the 2nd date night was same again, wore clothes she wore all day), so thought maybe this time she was making the effort. Eventually I go upstairs to see where she is, and she was lying on my daughters bedz in her pyjamas on Facebook which shes addicted to, and just casually said to mw"urrgh im coming now". To which intold ger dont even bother. If it was such an effort to come down and be with me, rhen dont bother. I got stood up in my own home on a date with my wife. Now that was 8 weeks ago. I told her im dine making all the effort for this marriage and have alone time, ajd rhe next date night she is organising. Its been 2 months now and not one single thing has she organised so we can be alone. My son has even asked her why she hasnt arranged a date night. I eventually sat her down and asked why. Het reply was "because yiull expect me to be wearing a body stocking or lingerie. Why cant we just watch a movie together". Now no where have I ever said that to herz but as a women, why would that be the issue. Other women before my wife, wearing sexy lingetie is a turn on for both parties and why wouldn't she want to wear it. Again, not having ever even mentioned it but why would that be the issue. And before you say shes got a complex, shes lost 10kgs, trains with me at gym everyday, in peptides, I oay for her to have her hair done every month, best shes looked in years, but why use that as an excuse. Am I wrong in thinking maybe there's another man. My son and I call her homescreen bwvause whenever we walk passed herz shes staring at her homescreen (obviously turns it off). Maybe im.paranoid about that hut mostly I feel so rejected and hurt. I orovide an incredible life for us snd rhe family. Overseas trips, there at every sporting even of my kids, I help with lifting, im a very hands on father and make so much effort to be with my wife but she cant even turn up to a dare nighr, snd when she has, zero efforts been made by her. More of an effort for her. Surely shes want to be with her hsubamd and have time out from the kids. Yes its at home, but its a "datennight " in our wine bar, just catching uo gor a cple hrs and laughing anf not being parents for once. Just the 2 of us, yet she makes no effort, even though 8 weeks have passed and the kids have even asked why she wont organise a date night. Shes so anti. So now ive closed off from her. I refuse to organise one and waiting for her to, yet I kmow now it will never happen. Any tips and advice here would be so grateful bevause im feeling so rejected. If she loved me surely she'd want to make an effort and arrange a datennight herself and to make up for standing me up, but water.off a ducks back for her. Im seriously looking into divorce. Well its there now in my head, where it wasn't before. Any assistance /advice ladies id really appreciate

Who are these date nights for? I get the feeling it's what you want, but that's not what she needs. I don't think she wants to wear sexy lingerie and sit in the wine bar, I think she wants pjs, a nice film and a cuddle up on the couch. I wonder if she feels obliged to have sex as part of the date night, and that's why she doesn't dress up, trying to discourage you. I think what your wife wants is to sit down with you and for you to ask her what's going on in her life at the moment, she wants to be seen and heard, I think you are trying too hard for her, sorry

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