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For those coping with infidelity (or those thinking of doing it)

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AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 20:25

Hi

This isn't a question, but it's something I wanted to share, as many years ago I came to this forum to get help with my then-boyfriend's infidelity and I wanted to share it here for anyone riding that nightmare train.

I won't re-hash the circumstance, but it was a terrible experience I would not wish on my worst enemy, made worse by all the classics: trickle truth, multiple d-days, and even - sadly - the affair re-igniting when we were trying to recover.

It was God awful.

We weren't one of those couples where the cheater is incredibly self-aware and goes to therapy and starts talking like a guest on Oprah. It was a shit show for a couple of years. He was completely unable to cope with the shame and it took years for him to be able to understand the real reasons or really understand the pain he caused.

We went through three years of complete hell. The rage in me was bottomless, the sadness seemed unlimited, I was shocked by the way that it shattered me but it broke something really core. Through those years I left over and over again, sometimes for months, and he always kept trying, always kept trying to sort it out even when he was ill-equipped to do that.

I could give you a long complicated version of the reasons he cheated on me, but the short one is that he was nihilistic at the time, didn't love himself much or value things in his life and he took something that felt good at the time without ever really thinking of the impact it would have on me.

I remember those days of desperately asking "why?", but I figured out that it's almost always that - when people cheat on people they love. They're a bit fucked up, and they do something that feels good without really thinking of the harm they are causing.

I waited for a very long time for it to feel like "the end", like it was really over, but the truth is that I think that pain does stay with you forever. It changed me a lot as a person, which is sad. I wish there was something better I could say. I am always inspired by people who shake these things off, but for me it was a life-changing thing to experience.

We stayed together - we are almost 8 years now after it all, and I can honestly say that I have the relationship with my now-husband that I wished I had all that time ago. He just wasn't able to give that, at that time. That isn't ideal, but that is just what happened.

What is true is that when someone has stayed with you through years of crying, screaming, meltdowns, and the inevitable depression that they do really love you, and it does build a kind of commitment and deep love that I probably would not have had if we had come to where we are via a less painful road.

I realised this past bank holiday weekend, that whatever it is I was looking for, I now have it. We weren't experts at getting here, but he never, ever gave up - no matter how many times I told him to, and we're happy now.

I suppose I shared this because I think a lot about other people going through this, wanting like I did to have answers or hope. I honestly think it's one of those things that is just devastating. Causes so much pain for so long. You do come out the other side - with or without the cheater - but no, nobody can ever take it away or make it un-happen.

What I would say is that the advice here was the best I got from anywhere - family and counsellors were far less useful, and if you are going through this I hope you listen better than I did, although it is very hard to find your strength when it's happening to you.

Sending love to all.

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IwanttoWFH · 05/05/2026 20:30

Unless you have kids together (which can make separation more difficult), I genuinely don’t understand why you’d put yourself through three years of misery for someone who cheated on you.
I could never trust that person again.

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 20:31

Well, because I think fundamentally anyone can cheat, so leaving doesn't save you from that risk. Trust can be rebuilt, the very long, and very hard way and if someone is right for you then sometimes it's worth it. Had it been any other person, it wouldn't have been.

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catipuss · 05/05/2026 20:35

Your choice, others would choose differently, good luck in the future.

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 20:38

catipuss · 05/05/2026 20:35

Your choice, others would choose differently, good luck in the future.

Oh absolutely. I would actually encourage people to leave in 99% of circumstances as staying is far harder, but for me it was the right decision.

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IwanttoWFH · 05/05/2026 20:39

Anyone can cheat, but I’d argue someone in a happy relationship wouldn’t cheat.
I’m glad you worked through it. I just couldn’t see a future with someone who cheated. They wouldn’t be right for me, or worth it, as it shows a lack of respect. I wouldn’t invest time and effort in someone who could treat me like that.

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 20:46

I think that one huge mistake people make when they haven't lived through it is to switch it around to "someone in a happy relationship wouldn't cheat" or "it shows a lack of respect".

In truth, people do cheat in happy relationships if they are not happy with themselves. And cheating is more about lack of respect for yourself.

When people are cheated on, they internalise it, as evidence they weren't enough, they didn't make their partner happy or they aren't worthy of respect- but most of the time it isn't that at all.

Healthy people, who are unhappy in relationships leave them. Healthy people don't have relationships with people they don't respect.

Unhealthy people do all manner of harmful things to people they love. They can become healthy and change that, but it requires a great deal of work.

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JollyJaffa · 05/05/2026 20:49

How can you be relaxed in your relationship, knowing he has no respect for you thought. How can you trust he’s not doing it agin, when he has shown you he is capable? I could never forgive it myself, even if I wanted to.

cloudtreecarpet · 05/05/2026 20:52

Hmmm.
I think you have found a good way to excuse your boyfriend now husband's behaviour towards you.

I am glad you are happy now but I think staying with a person who made you feel as awful as you say he did is quite an unusual thing to do.
He may well have been unhappy in himself but I'm not sure that justifies giving you "three years of hell" .

But if you have found a way to excuse it and move on together & it's as good as you say it is now then that's great.

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 20:59

JollyJaffa · 05/05/2026 20:49

How can you be relaxed in your relationship, knowing he has no respect for you thought. How can you trust he’s not doing it agin, when he has shown you he is capable? I could never forgive it myself, even if I wanted to.

Well for the benefit of other readers, as I said - cheating is a sign of a lack of respect for yourself - not for the person you cheat on. Self-respect shows up in whether your actions are aligned with your values. When there's a gap between what you believe is right and what you actually do, you aren't respecting yourself.

In terms of "capable" - about a third of people in monogamous relationships admit to cheating, and over half say they've been cheated on at some point so it's not something rare like a unicorn. In many cases people never know. Life isn't so simple.

I do think on balance that someone who has been through the pain and effort of the recovery is far less likely to do it again.

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ilovesleep6 · 05/05/2026 21:02

I know every situation is different and it’s never simple, things can be complex. But reading your story I think staying with the person as you did is the reason the pain has stayed with you. I think moving on would have been the healthier thing for you, though I understand things like children, religious beliefs or other factors can make this difficult.

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 21:04

cloudtreecarpet · 05/05/2026 20:52

Hmmm.
I think you have found a good way to excuse your boyfriend now husband's behaviour towards you.

I am glad you are happy now but I think staying with a person who made you feel as awful as you say he did is quite an unusual thing to do.
He may well have been unhappy in himself but I'm not sure that justifies giving you "three years of hell" .

But if you have found a way to excuse it and move on together & it's as good as you say it is now then that's great.

When you go through something like this, you can of course decide to leave - and IMO in most cases that is actually the right choice, but if you do stay my advice is to never "excuse" the behavior, but to do the hard work to repair from it.

That means...

The person who caused the harm takes real ownership without defensiveness
You work through the pain rather than minimising it
Concrete behavioural change follows rather than just words
Trust is rebuilt slowly through consistent actions over time
Both people work at it

That is very long, very difficult work for both people, and that is the opposite of "excusing". Certainly not for the faint hearted, it is very tough to work through and is only worth it in some cases.

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IwanttoWFH · 05/05/2026 21:05

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 20:46

I think that one huge mistake people make when they haven't lived through it is to switch it around to "someone in a happy relationship wouldn't cheat" or "it shows a lack of respect".

In truth, people do cheat in happy relationships if they are not happy with themselves. And cheating is more about lack of respect for yourself.

When people are cheated on, they internalise it, as evidence they weren't enough, they didn't make their partner happy or they aren't worthy of respect- but most of the time it isn't that at all.

Healthy people, who are unhappy in relationships leave them. Healthy people don't have relationships with people they don't respect.

Unhealthy people do all manner of harmful things to people they love. They can become healthy and change that, but it requires a great deal of work.

I disagree that cheating means you don’t have self-respect as opposed to not having any respect for your partner. You can be unhappy/not like yourself but that doesn’t mean you hurt someone else.

I have been cheated on before (when I was younger) and I walked away. I wasn’t tolerating that behaviour. Everyone is worthy of love, respect and honesty. Why give your all to someone who doesn’t feel the same way?

Out of interest, what was it that you saw that made you stay? Why were you sure they were the right person for you/worth it?

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 21:07

ilovesleep6 · 05/05/2026 21:02

I know every situation is different and it’s never simple, things can be complex. But reading your story I think staying with the person as you did is the reason the pain has stayed with you. I think moving on would have been the healthier thing for you, though I understand things like children, religious beliefs or other factors can make this difficult.

That is absolutely true. When you make the decision to stay together, then the pain does stay with you. If you walk away I think it is easier to put it behind you. But in my case I am glad I made the choice I did.

The people who describe it as "worth it" years later almost universally say the same thing: "I stayed for the right reasons, and they showed up every single day." The ones who regret staying say: "I kept waiting for them to become who they promised to be."

The difference between those two outcomes is almost entirely about the other person's consistency - which is something you can observe over time, but can't control.

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MummyJ36 · 05/05/2026 21:08

I’ve had a couple of good friends who have stayed in relationships/marriages after cheating. They were determined they were not going to end the relationship. But it does come at a cost. Yes they have the person they wanted to be with all along, yes therapy and self reflection has happened in bucketloads. But it has also taken away an innocence and trust that I believe makes a healthy relationship. They always know that at some point that they weren’t enough. And I do feel sad for them.

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 21:13

IwanttoWFH · 05/05/2026 21:05

I disagree that cheating means you don’t have self-respect as opposed to not having any respect for your partner. You can be unhappy/not like yourself but that doesn’t mean you hurt someone else.

I have been cheated on before (when I was younger) and I walked away. I wasn’t tolerating that behaviour. Everyone is worthy of love, respect and honesty. Why give your all to someone who doesn’t feel the same way?

Out of interest, what was it that you saw that made you stay? Why were you sure they were the right person for you/worth it?

Well, if a person respects themselves, they would not be in a relationship with someone they didn't respect - would they? You see what I mean? So either way a cheater has little self-respect.

Why were you sure they were the right person for you/worth it?
I wasn't sure. I constantly questioned if I had done the right thing for years, until finally I got to a place where I knew I had done the right thing. Couldn't imagine being with anyone else.

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AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 21:16

MummyJ36 · 05/05/2026 21:08

I’ve had a couple of good friends who have stayed in relationships/marriages after cheating. They were determined they were not going to end the relationship. But it does come at a cost. Yes they have the person they wanted to be with all along, yes therapy and self reflection has happened in bucketloads. But it has also taken away an innocence and trust that I believe makes a healthy relationship. They always know that at some point that they weren’t enough. And I do feel sad for them.

Yes, for sure.

Two big reasons I was able to repair things were:

  1. We were not married or living together at the time.

  2. It happened during a long distance relationship where he and I often didn't see each other for months on end.

Had it happened when I was there, or married to him, and he'd just popped to someone else, that would have been the end for sure.

Maybe that's difficult to understand, but it made a big difference for me.

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Mumbye · 05/05/2026 21:18

A very brave, vulnerable and honest post.

Can you say what were the things that you read on here that helped you through?

My only sadness is to read your words that because HE stayed with you thru your screaming, crying, depression etc means you are grateful?

I have been in your shoes and we do have a great relationship now - he is now an emotionally intimate and intelligent person born out of the pain. But I am comfortable reflecting that I gave too much and was equally as emotionally flawed / needy to have stayed to fix it through suffering. I had 4 children so I made sacrifices but if it was my daughter I would say leave and don’t look back. I don’t know how you forgave him when he went back to his affair partner after seeing the destruction he had caused you.

I am happy you are in a good place.

ilovesleep6 · 05/05/2026 21:18

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 21:13

Well, if a person respects themselves, they would not be in a relationship with someone they didn't respect - would they? You see what I mean? So either way a cheater has little self-respect.

Why were you sure they were the right person for you/worth it?
I wasn't sure. I constantly questioned if I had done the right thing for years, until finally I got to a place where I knew I had done the right thing. Couldn't imagine being with anyone else.

I see your logic regarding respect, but honestly I think that applies to women more than men. Self respecting women are unlikely to be in relationships with men they don’t respect, that’s true.

But the other way round? I’m not sure. I don’t think (most) men see that sort of thing in the same way (most) women do.

But I do wish you the best OP and hope he doesn’t hurt you again.

cloudtreecarpet · 05/05/2026 21:21

I find it quite astonishing that you went on to marry someone who put you through that.
Can I ask how old you were at the time and are now?
And are you planning to have a family together?

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 21:25

Mumbye · 05/05/2026 21:18

A very brave, vulnerable and honest post.

Can you say what were the things that you read on here that helped you through?

My only sadness is to read your words that because HE stayed with you thru your screaming, crying, depression etc means you are grateful?

I have been in your shoes and we do have a great relationship now - he is now an emotionally intimate and intelligent person born out of the pain. But I am comfortable reflecting that I gave too much and was equally as emotionally flawed / needy to have stayed to fix it through suffering. I had 4 children so I made sacrifices but if it was my daughter I would say leave and don’t look back. I don’t know how you forgave him when he went back to his affair partner after seeing the destruction he had caused you.

I am happy you are in a good place.

I am sorry you went through this, awful business I wouldn't wish on anybody.

Can you say what were the things that you read on here that helped you through?
There was brilliant support generally, but the practical advice was the best. Sadly, I was too much of a mess to listen to it as well as I should have. What I would mostly tell people in these circumstances is to leave first, immediately, and take absolutely no shit whatsoever. No self pity, no avoidance, no nothing, just become tough as it's the best thing to do.

My only sadness is to read your words that because HE stayed with you thru your screaming, crying, depression etc means you are grateful?
Oh no, I am not grateful, not at all. He said to me this weekend "I am so glad you didn't bin me". What I am is glad that he grew and repaired himself, and that we have found a really, deeply loving, devoted marriage out of the carnage.

I have been in your shoes and we do have a great relationship now - he is now an emotionally intimate and intelligent person born out of the pain.
Same here, he is a better person for what he did, as sad as that is.

But I am comfortable reflecting that I gave too much and was equally as emotionally flawed / needy to have stayed to fix it through suffering.
Oh same! But that is okay, people aren't perfect versions, and while we all wish we could be better / tougher / stronger in the right moments we just do our best. In the long run if you are happy then what you did was brave.

I don’t know how you forgave him when he went back to his affair partner after seeing the destruction he had caused you.
He didn't go back to the affair partner - he was never really "with" the affair partner, it was more like a friend he had sex with when drunk sort of a thing. But on one occasion when I ended it, he got drunk and slept with her again. Yes, that caused me massive pain, but it wasn't that he was torn between us (I couldn't have lived with that).

(if it was my daughter I would say leave and don’t look back too, that is the honest truth)

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AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 21:26

cloudtreecarpet · 05/05/2026 21:21

I find it quite astonishing that you went on to marry someone who put you through that.
Can I ask how old you were at the time and are now?
And are you planning to have a family together?

At the time it happened we were late 30s, we're now pushing 50 and we have our own grown up kids.

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cloudtreecarpet · 05/05/2026 21:31

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 21:26

At the time it happened we were late 30s, we're now pushing 50 and we have our own grown up kids.

So you already had your own children when you got together?
Were you both divorced?

I am actually surprised you are that old, the way you wrote, he, certainly, sounded much younger.

AHundredPercentPolyester · 05/05/2026 22:10

He was divorced yes, finalised a few weeks before we met, which was probably a factor in him being in a bad state of mind. Before anyone asks, no infidelity in the marriage, they just didn't love each other and it was a miserable situation for a fair while.

I was never married before but had a grown up child.

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Itsanewlife · 05/05/2026 22:13

A brave and insightful post. I'm glad you are in a happy place, but I'm not sure I agree with your rationalisation for staying. I was in a unhealthy emotionally abusive sexless relationship for a long time and towards the end I formed inappropriate attachments to unsuitable people, and I really did consider cheating - entirely due to the fact that I had little respect for my ex, he was selfish and inconsiderate. I didn't ultimately cheat because I had too much respect for myself. I left instead. I am now in a happy relationship and I don't even notice other men. I am not saying this is a universal thing, and it may just be my experience. But, if my partner cheated on me, I would end it not just because it would reflect a lack of consideration for me, but also because it would reflect on the state of our relationship.

cloudtreecarpet · 05/05/2026 22:24

I don't think your experience of infidelity matches those of people who are in a marriage with kids etc.
You were in a long distance relationship, you didn't see each other that much & your then boyfriend was coming out of a divorce and sleeping with a friend.

Yet despite not living with this man or being that connected to him really you were utterly devastated by his cheating and went through all the "hell" you describe.

Now imagine you had spent years married to him, that you had owned a house, had a mortgage together, joint finances, children e and he cheated on you then.How devastating must THAT be??

I think your romantic "look how amazing we are to have weathered this storm" and "you just have to do the work, people" opening posts don't really tell the full story.