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(TW SA) Continuing support & sharing things…

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PinkPoetAgaiin · 17/04/2026 12:04

Hi again everyone,

Making a new thread as some of the lovely ladies who have been supporting me for over a month now suggested I can continue to share my thoughts & feelings dealing with sexual & financial abuse (& other things) from my husband who I’ve been with since I was 18 (15 years).

Will be on and off for a bit as young DC is unwell at the moment and that’s taking all my energy.

I am not yet at the point of leaving - please don’t shout at me for being a bad mum. I did get a lot of criticism on my last thread for not getting them out immediately and I just can’t for reasons I explained.

Life feels heavy, but I’m focusing on DC at the moment ❤️

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PrizedPickledPopcorn · 20/04/2026 21:43

@PinkPoetAgaiin I took a blood pressure type medication for migraine, just for a few months, it interrupted the cycle and I didn’t get them as badly again.

So discuss the possibilities with the GP.

But you should tell him/her the reason for your stress. Amitiptyline has many excellent qualities but may not be right for you - it causes you to sleep deeply. I don’t know whether that’s a good thing for your situation.

DropOfffArtiste · 20/04/2026 21:47

So sorry about your migraines, they are the worst. I also take triptans which are excellent but you do need to sleep them off. I also was forced to deal with my abusive relationship by being literally crippled with pain. Doctors were preparing to do a hip replacement (despite being only mid 30s) to resolve the pain. I kicked him out and a few months later was completely painfree and out dancing. The body knows more than we realise.

getthewetdogoffthesofa · 20/04/2026 21:48

PinkPoetAgaiin · 20/04/2026 21:27

This is a very personal question and I don’t mind if you don’t want to answer but I’ve heard this drug causes a lot of weight gain?
this is the main reason I’ve been resistant

this is something I want to avoid as I have to work very hard not to gain weight and I don’t eat a lot as it is

Oh wow, I didn’t know this. No, I absolutely don’t mind you asking. I’m not sure I can answer clearly though. I’m years into an early menopause, and despite HRT helping, my weight has been yoyoing ever since. And I tend to put weight on more when ex is spiking with his abusive behaviour as it takes energy and resilience to stay on a diet and I don’t have that energy when he’s being particularly twattish. I’ve been on amitriptyline for about 2 years and been up and down with all the above stuff happening on and off during that time. So … I can’t really give you a clear answer, sorry:(

PinkPoetAgaiin · 20/04/2026 21:54

getthewetdogoffthesofa · 20/04/2026 21:48

Oh wow, I didn’t know this. No, I absolutely don’t mind you asking. I’m not sure I can answer clearly though. I’m years into an early menopause, and despite HRT helping, my weight has been yoyoing ever since. And I tend to put weight on more when ex is spiking with his abusive behaviour as it takes energy and resilience to stay on a diet and I don’t have that energy when he’s being particularly twattish. I’ve been on amitriptyline for about 2 years and been up and down with all the above stuff happening on and off during that time. So … I can’t really give you a clear answer, sorry:(

No that’s ok thank you for your reply. I’m quite strict with myself in terms of what I eat because I’ve been prone to emotional eat in the last and if I start putting on weight I can be prone to heavy restriction to lose it quickly. It’s my way of getting some control back I guess. So I’m a bit wary of that.

I did ask the dr when she suggested it but I do find gps tend to say ‘oh no that’s just a myth’ but actually a lot of people do find it happens !

I’ll have a think about it. Also worth thinking about the deep sleeping as well …

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getthewetdogoffthesofa · 20/04/2026 22:03

PinkPoetAgaiin · 20/04/2026 21:54

No that’s ok thank you for your reply. I’m quite strict with myself in terms of what I eat because I’ve been prone to emotional eat in the last and if I start putting on weight I can be prone to heavy restriction to lose it quickly. It’s my way of getting some control back I guess. So I’m a bit wary of that.

I did ask the dr when she suggested it but I do find gps tend to say ‘oh no that’s just a myth’ but actually a lot of people do find it happens !

I’ll have a think about it. Also worth thinking about the deep sleeping as well …

Hormones also play a huge part in migraines and things like pregnancy, the coil/pill and menopause can have a big effect on migraines. Not to mention the stress. Honestly though, my migraines got much better once I left the abusive one. Not perfect, but better. Equally, I don’t want to derail the thread by going on about weight and migraines. I’ve been following since your first thread and I think you’re incredibly brave to be so open and honest about how confused and conflicted you are. Please keep posting, keep talking, keep working through this. It could take a long time but I have faith that you will find your way out of this in the end.

OtterlyAstounding · 20/04/2026 22:56

PinkPoetAgaiin · 20/04/2026 21:33

Thank you I’ve heard of this. Will have to look if they have it at the library because I can’t have this turning up at home!

Considering safety and secrecy is a major issue - if your library doesn't have it, another option is to download it free at the website oceanofpdf .com, if you need to.

Imbrocator · 20/04/2026 23:04

I’m so glad you’re continuing to work through all these difficult things and getting such good advice. I just wanted to say in response to some of your other posts that it’s completely natural and normal to still love your husband and enjoy his company sometimes, even though you’ve acknowledged that he’s behaved in ways that are unforgivable. You don’t need to beat yourself up for this or think of yourself as being weak for continuing to feel these things.

It’s easy to highlight the horrible parts of abusive relationships but I actually think that in some ways doing this sells women a false narrative on what abuse actually is. Almost no one would stay in a relationship where it’s just relentless abuse. Abusers are more often than not funny and charming and capable of making you feel deeply loved. It’s an essential part of the emotional rollercoaster.

They make you feel terrified and unsafe, and then they make you feel loved and really safe. And when it’s good again it’s such a relief and you’re so depleted from the bad times that you either can’t address the bad or you are so grateful that things are nice again that you daren’t try.

Through all of that you still love them and care for them, because the abuser has your heart strings wrapped around a fist, and when you aren’t being made to feel as if you are the aggressor, the abuser gives you enough good times and support and safety that the majority of the time things are good enough. Not perfect, but not like the“real abuse” we get told about.

Falling out of love takes time. It might be a long time after you finally admit to yourself that the way he’s behaving is unforgivable. It takes hundreds and hundreds of tiny realisations before you can fully recognise that you aren’t in a happy, loving relationship. It might take more than one try to leave, because your husband has made himself an essential part of you feeling safe and secure and capable of handling life.

And that’s ok. It’s ok to still enjoy his company. It’s completely normal. If he was a complete monster you wouldn’t still be there. It’s the good parts that make it so hard to believe, because why would a man who cares about you and tries so hard to make you happy sometimes and who can be such a good dad and friend do this stuff?

Don’t give yourself a hard time for feeling any of this. But hold on to the knowledge that he has done things that are unforgivable. You’ll be ready to leave when you’re ready, and one day you’ll look at him and know in your heart of hearts that you’ll be just fine without him. Until then just take it one day at a time.

ProudWomanXX · 20/04/2026 23:16

PinkPoetAgaiin · 20/04/2026 21:33

Thank you I’ve heard of this. Will have to look if they have it at the library because I can’t have this turning up at home!

The very fact you can't "have this turning up at home" is quite revealing.
Why not?
HE had a vile PUA manual on your shelves for years, but YOU feel unable to have a helpful book, delivered to you?

AyzumSkayzum · 20/04/2026 23:48

OP, you say you are very strict around your eating, this is a common trauma response too. Some people do this because it's something they feel they have control of, when they don't have control of other aspects of their lives. I don't want to derail the conversation, but I wonder if this is something to bear in mind.

PinkPoetAgaiin · 21/04/2026 05:13

Imbrocator · 20/04/2026 23:04

I’m so glad you’re continuing to work through all these difficult things and getting such good advice. I just wanted to say in response to some of your other posts that it’s completely natural and normal to still love your husband and enjoy his company sometimes, even though you’ve acknowledged that he’s behaved in ways that are unforgivable. You don’t need to beat yourself up for this or think of yourself as being weak for continuing to feel these things.

It’s easy to highlight the horrible parts of abusive relationships but I actually think that in some ways doing this sells women a false narrative on what abuse actually is. Almost no one would stay in a relationship where it’s just relentless abuse. Abusers are more often than not funny and charming and capable of making you feel deeply loved. It’s an essential part of the emotional rollercoaster.

They make you feel terrified and unsafe, and then they make you feel loved and really safe. And when it’s good again it’s such a relief and you’re so depleted from the bad times that you either can’t address the bad or you are so grateful that things are nice again that you daren’t try.

Through all of that you still love them and care for them, because the abuser has your heart strings wrapped around a fist, and when you aren’t being made to feel as if you are the aggressor, the abuser gives you enough good times and support and safety that the majority of the time things are good enough. Not perfect, but not like the“real abuse” we get told about.

Falling out of love takes time. It might be a long time after you finally admit to yourself that the way he’s behaving is unforgivable. It takes hundreds and hundreds of tiny realisations before you can fully recognise that you aren’t in a happy, loving relationship. It might take more than one try to leave, because your husband has made himself an essential part of you feeling safe and secure and capable of handling life.

And that’s ok. It’s ok to still enjoy his company. It’s completely normal. If he was a complete monster you wouldn’t still be there. It’s the good parts that make it so hard to believe, because why would a man who cares about you and tries so hard to make you happy sometimes and who can be such a good dad and friend do this stuff?

Don’t give yourself a hard time for feeling any of this. But hold on to the knowledge that he has done things that are unforgivable. You’ll be ready to leave when you’re ready, and one day you’ll look at him and know in your heart of hearts that you’ll be just fine without him. Until then just take it one day at a time.

Thank you, this makes me feel very seen.

After sharing all I have and the honest truth it feels a bit embarrassing to say that I still love him and he makes me smile.

Unforgivable as it may be.
I wish it wasn’t so hard to get a specialist trauma therapist that doesn’t cost the earth. I still don’t know how I feel about it exactly. I know he has hurt me deeply but I still want to please him and to be close to him and often want to cuddle and be near him.

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PinkPoetAgaiin · 21/04/2026 05:15

OtterlyAstounding · 20/04/2026 22:56

Considering safety and secrecy is a major issue - if your library doesn't have it, another option is to download it free at the website oceanofpdf .com, if you need to.

I’ve downloaded it and started reading it with my morning coffee! I think it will be very interesting /probably a bit upsetting

In the first chapter the author talks about how it’s normal for trauma to be held in the body for years without the person admitting or being aware it’s there.

My headaches have been the worst they’ve ever been over the past 2/3 years and I put it down to hormones . I wonder if it’s connected

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PinkPoetAgaiin · 21/04/2026 05:18

AyzumSkayzum · 20/04/2026 23:48

OP, you say you are very strict around your eating, this is a common trauma response too. Some people do this because it's something they feel they have control of, when they don't have control of other aspects of their lives. I don't want to derail the conversation, but I wonder if this is something to bear in mind.

Yes I can see clearly that it has to do with my stress levels . I’ve yo-yo dieted all my life and when I feel stressed/anxious (even before all this) the first thing to go is the food in order the make sure I don’t ‘overeat’ . Plus I don’t always feel like eating when I feel anxious

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category12 · 21/04/2026 06:38

Your anxiety around your weight - is it for you, about how you feel about yourself, or is it to please him? What happens if you put on weight?

Disordered eating habits can be about grabbing some control for yourself as has been said. Just wondering what his attitude is to your appearance.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 21/04/2026 07:08

As I understand weight gain with amitriptyline, it doesn’t ’make you put on weight’ in a magic, food works differently kind of way. It’s more that you tend to eat a bit more. If you are already controlled about food you shouldn’t have an issue. It’s more of a problem for people who don’t watch their weight.

PinkPoetAgaiin · 21/04/2026 07:13

category12 · 21/04/2026 06:38

Your anxiety around your weight - is it for you, about how you feel about yourself, or is it to please him? What happens if you put on weight?

Disordered eating habits can be about grabbing some control for yourself as has been said. Just wondering what his attitude is to your appearance.

Good question
he says he loves me/fancies me whatever size I am
It won’t surprise anyone that he’s always talking about my body and complimenting me in that way - but not really that I look pretty or nice or anything

I try to stay fit/slim etc for myself but I can get a bit obsessed with it and really restrict what I eat if I’m not careful

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shoppingred54 · 21/04/2026 08:35

Do you listen to podcasts? If you don’t want to leave books lying around, there are lots of analysis and interesting podcasts you could listen to. The author of the trauma book is interviewed by Rangan Chatterjee. There’s another one called Why She Stayed with lots of real life interviews.

PinkPoetAgaiin · 21/04/2026 09:00

shoppingred54 · 21/04/2026 08:35

Do you listen to podcasts? If you don’t want to leave books lying around, there are lots of analysis and interesting podcasts you could listen to. The author of the trauma book is interviewed by Rangan Chatterjee. There’s another one called Why She Stayed with lots of real life interviews.

Yes I do . Thank you I will look these up

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throwawayimplantchat · 21/04/2026 10:06

Was last night OK poet? Did he put the children to bed so you could rest and leave you alone sex wise both last night and this morning? I really hope so x

PinkPoetAgaiin · 21/04/2026 11:05

throwawayimplantchat · 21/04/2026 10:06

Was last night OK poet? Did he put the children to bed so you could rest and leave you alone sex wise both last night and this morning? I really hope so x

Yes last night was ok thank you. I also got my period today - although very light. Which usually puts him off actual sex for a few days at least. But he might ask for other things.

I know he has a really stressful day at work today so I’m hoping it goes well otherwise this can be a trigger for his bad behaviour

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Comtesse · 21/04/2026 13:15

Do you have an Employee Assistance programme at work? They can provide counselling services, I wonder if specialist counselling is available too - might be worth checking especially if you might get pressure about the costs at some point.

shoppingred54 · 21/04/2026 14:08

This was covered in the other thread, it would be useful to open a bank account and then get cashback, say £10 a week, that you could pay into your account. The Co-op and First Direct let you pay in free at a Post Office. Or open an account where you have a local branch. Let that money build up so you have a stash.

alexdgr8 · 21/04/2026 14:14

But he will see the cash back entries on the statement which will lead to questioning.
Best not to draw attention.

shoppingred54 · 21/04/2026 14:39

Sorry if I’m giving wrong information, but when I’ve used cashback it only shows up as the total purchase on statements, it’s not itemised, only on the receipt.

Youllnevergetabetterbitofbutteronyourknife · 21/04/2026 17:06

How are you feeling today @PinkPoetAgaiin ?

HyggeTygge · 21/04/2026 17:49

PinkPoetAgaiin · 20/04/2026 21:33

Thank you I’ve heard of this. Will have to look if they have it at the library because I can’t have this turning up at home!

I know I shouldn't be surprised any more, but the idea of having a partner that I couldn't even talk about a book I'm reading with.... just such a world away from my idea of a caring partnership.

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